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Esoteric Nazism is being removed as an ideology.
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It aint gonna come in the nearest 6 months anyway pipe down

Unless the devs somehow also release a whole bunch of content later this year it might be tnover
Would you settle for a TT1-like fiasco where they just publish everything that was made and apply duct tape (TT2) and dried semen (TT3) to everything that wasnt over the next year and a half?
 
Would you settle for a TT1-like fiasco where they just publish everything that was made and apply duct tape (TT2) and dried semen (TT3) to everything that wasnt over the next year and a half?
It's hilarious because TT was advertised as a sort of foundation stone for later, presumably swifter updates. What we got is an unreliable, unengaging mess that is nevertheless ubiquitous. It was supposed to be a total overhaul, and the crap it gave us, believe you me, is total indeed. You can't look away from it or toss it aside - the mod makes sure of it. Besides Guangdong and Brazil –which in turn was, at the outset, an integrated submod piece– we still have nothing constructive or expansive. Skeleton content, content cuts and partial reworks is all three years have served on this sorry platter.
 
Their reasoning for removing esoteric Nazism is so stupid as well. From what I remember from the stream they said they removed it because having an more extreme version of Nazism whitewashing regular Nazism. That argument is retarded as hell because unless you're mentally disable, I don't think you need to be told that the axis powers did a lot of horrible things, especially from a hoi4 mod of all things.
How is the idea that the SS would have developed a more extreme version of National Socialism white washing the other Nazis? If anything TNO should be mocked that they were so ass at research that they did not include some of the schizo beliefs Himmler had in Burgundy.
 
How is the idea that the SS would have developed a more extreme version of National Socialism white washing the other Nazis? If anything TNO should be mocked that they were so ass at research that they did not include some of the schizo beliefs Himmler had in Burgundy.
Funny enough Hitler's Coalition included a large amount of monarchist who will most likely going to overthrow him after the war is over Nazi Germany most likely would have ended up back as a constitutional monarchy.
Besides a large amount of dead Jews the Germans winning World War II would have been better off for the general population of the world because the likes of changki-shek would still be in charge of China.
The Great Leap Forward would never happen Eastern Europe would not suffer under 70 years of Red Terror.
 
How is the idea that the SS would have developed a more extreme version of National Socialism white washing the other Nazis? If anything TNO should be mocked that they were so ass at research that they did not include some of the schizo beliefs Himmler had in Burgundy.
Well, it pretty much shows what kind of brainlets the TNO-troon devs are. Their imagination stops at what pronouns they gonna use tomorrow.
 
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Their reasoning for removing esoteric Nazism is so stupid as well. From what I remember from the stream they said they removed it because having an more extreme version of Nazism whitewashing regular Nazism.
If by "whitewashing" they mean concealing the flaws and unpleasantries of Nazism, then they are dead wrong. It is precisely those flaws and unpleasantries that extreme Nazism pushes to the forefront in its exaggeration of the ideology and its principles.

If anything TNO should be mocked that they were so ass at research that they did not include some of the schizo beliefs Himmler had in Burgundy.
TNO's problem has always been this: bad research.
The hypothetical of the Nazis winning ww2 is really the hypothetical of Nazism consolidating itself into a firm and established state ideology.
For those questions of how it will mature, evolve and change, a quality answer may only be composed by someone who i) deeply studies the ideology, ii) can impersonally wager the possibilites, iii) can empathize with the figures/followers/proponents of the ideology to see through their eyes and judge their next moves.
For the sort of politics that permeates the creative staff at TNO, all three of these things are absolutely haram, and thus the "alternative history" we get is amateurish.

Now I'm not critiquing as some sort of Nazi loremaster. I'm not one. But from my experience I would say that the principal opportunity of any alternate history endeavor is to speculate the evolution of ideas, philosophies, peoples, etc. much like how one would organisms in biology. I'm disappointed at the shallowness of the present work compared to the depth of its sources.
 
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I'm still on the dev team.
Are they really getting rid of the NPP and Yockey? I know this is old info but the leaked plan from 2021 that would have had you engage in Emperor Palpatine like antics to subvert and reforge American institutions to suit his goals, culminating in him winning a third term sounded too interesting for TNO. I also assume that no work has been done for 70's content, right?

Is there anything else you can leak or let us know that's in the pipeline? Now that the Farms are on TOR it seems that /vst/ has become the main source of grief for the devs and "community".
 
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