Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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Maybe they are making the DLCs free because it has become too annoying to design new content while also trying to make it work for people who don't have the mechanics and systems these early DLCs introduced which are now so ingrained onto the game. EU4 had this problem with Development mechanic which made it so the game was pretty much unplayable after a while without the DLC that made it a thing.
 
Maybe they are making the DLCs free because it has become too annoying to design new content while also trying to make it work for people who don't have the mechanics and systems these early DLCs introduced which are now so ingrained onto the game.
That was one of the exact reasons they gave or the decision, personally wish they had just put those systems in the base game from the start instead of locking them behind 20 dollar DLCs, but its paradox so what can you do.
 
Maybe they are making the DLCs free because it has become too annoying to design new content while also trying to make it work for people who don't have the mechanics and systems these early DLCs introduced which are now so ingrained onto the game. EU4 had this problem with Development mechanic which made it so the game was pretty much unplayable after a while without the DLC that made it a thing.
Maybe it hints at a paid Japan rework since the WTT focus is now integrated to the game. I personally can't wait for the wacky Anarcho-Turanist path where you liberate the Fino-Ugric communal tribes from Indo-Europ*an rule. Although flavor related to the Xinjiang Wars (and especially this) would be amazing.
 
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That's right, a mod which has supposedly been under development since 2019 and was rebooted after they got rid of the CHAZ founder in 2020...has exactly 0% content implemented (only 'planned') as of now, 4-5 years later.
You know if these guys just want a commiewank echo chamber discord server they can just... do that ? Why go through the trouble of masquerading as a Hoi4 mod ?
 
Call it a hunch, but I feel like this move is in preparation for "sunsetting" HoI4.
No, I feel like the new method to milk DLC's are going to be reworks now. Let's be real, compared to minor nations like Scandinavia Germany, America, Japan, and Britain all feel very barebones and lacking. Look at how Germany has focuses to "befriend" China or Japan, seventy wasted days just to get a slight buff in relations or how you can't switch ideologies as America without a civil war that by the time it happens WW2 is already raging usually and you don't have time to really build up. We are still quite a ways away from HOI5.
In keeping with the thread theme so far, how would YOU design HOI5? (Assuming you even want to.)
I would bring back all of the different ideologies from past HOI games, and change how production works so you don't have to decide if you're going to go all in on a mechanized army or a decent air force. Granted maybe I just need to "get gud" but with all the things you need to research to make planes now I find myself unable to build enough planes to cover more than one front which doesn't reflect WWII since even Germany was able to produce fighters until the very end. Another change I'd make is inline with what others want but navy and the air war really need to be made less abstract than they are. Right now you just deploy both and pray that your stats are better and that the RNG works in your favor, also despite how much of a threat they were U-Boats seem to be virtually useless, as does taking strategic points like the Suez and Gibraltar.
I wouldn't. I'd make East vs. West.
That would be an actual breath of fresh air. The one question I have is what time frame the game would use, I think that simply counting days would be too quick since the cold war only lasted forty six years, but counting down to the hour like HOI4 would probably turn the game into a slog.
 
It’s official, Cameroon/WAU isn’t imperialist because West Africans are largely the same, like Italians were during their independence wars.
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What the hell, I've played HoI3 many times before but I have never seen those 3d soldier assets before, did they remove them at some point?
There were two sub-DLCs for the Semper Fi DLC developed by a modder (back when Paradox worked with modders and released actual content, like AoD and DH for HoI2). Dies Irae was a German flavor DLC and Stars and Stripes was US flavor.

Unfortunately, this was also at the same time as the disaster that was East vs West and Paradox killed all support for modders working with them. The DLC got a hotfix on the forums to work with For the Motherland but it lost some things like the map textures to do it and is very unstable. Getting it to work these days is a real bitch. It's barely playable. HoI3 was not good until Their Finest Hour released, and these DLCs will not work with it.

DI and SaS are still on the Steam store page but you'll need to run the Semper Fi .exe from the folder. Definitely worth giving it a look, there's nothing online about these DLCs but they really do add a lot for Germany and the US specifically. If you've got the HoI3 pack on Steam, these come with that so you'll already own it.
 
You know if these guys just want a commiewank echo chamber discord server they can just... do that ? Why go through the trouble of masquerading as a Hoi4 mod ?
Makes them feel special. There's plenty of commie-wanking echo chamber servers out there, but only one that pretends to be developing a 2ACW mod for Hearts of Iron that's also set in the '60s-'70s (when all the degenerate shit these guys adore like faggotry, troonery and nigger worship, really started to break into the American mainstream - Stalin would've gulaged or shot any idiot who started rambling to him about the importance of choking on BBC to realizing the Revolution and so would the likes of Earl Browder). And they do have the teaser images to string the occasional outsider along for a little while.
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Another day, another case of faggot leftards outing themselves as infinitely more racist than the average Iron March poster used to be. At least the various Italian kingdoms' peoples all spoke languages belonging to a single language family (Italo-Romance), practiced Catholicism and were previously unified into one political entity (even if it was as far removed from the Risorgimento as the Roman Empire). None of that is true of West Africa, it's more like pre-Roman Italy but much larger & cursed with like, literally 100x the ethnolinguistic diversity. Liberia and Nigeria alone are jampacked with peoples from ethnic groups that not only don't speak the same language, but hate each other's guts - in the former the Krahn (Kru-speakers) oppressed the Mano (a Mande-speaking people) as soon as they overthrew their Americo-Liberian overlords to the point where it kickstarted a civil war, and in the latter the Igbo and the Yoruba were hostile to each other despite both being Christians threatened by the Hausa/Fulani-dominated Muslim north (a big reason as to why Biafra failed, it was a purely Igbo project with no support from the rest of southern Nigeria).

But sure, anything to make the guys trying to weld the region together under an entirely foreign ideology which doesn't take the intricacies of the local tribes, their histories & their traditions into account and which wasn't even invented in Africa look good, because muh anti-imperialism. Speaking of which, this nonsense they're spouting is at the level of arguing that actually Pan-Asianism should work because all them yellow slants from Hokkaido to Vietnam look roughly the same, their languages/writing systems were heavily influenced by Chinese in the past, and anyway whitey bad = therefore yellow solidarity against whitey's exploitation good, no matter how it's achieved.
 
If I had total, absolute creative control to do whatever I wanted: I would drastically bring the scale of the game down, frankly. The engine is, at best, a "Barbarossa" simulator and not very good at depicting any other combat front in the War. I would focus the base game on the events from June 22nd, 1941 until late January, 1942. You are not the Führer or Stalin, you're the General Staff in charge of the Front. The resource production/material production is actually just routing armaments to your front and that sort of thing. Basically a more abstract version of what exists now. The "scale" is brought down to either the Regimental or Brigade level operations, and your job is either to repel the German forces and take the fight to them, or to push to the Archangelsk-Astrachan Line, with smaller operational objectives populating either in a dynamic sense or guided through gameplay or something. I would compensate with such a radical redesign by promising Paradox executives an endless stream of similarly-based "small-scale" front DLCs, such as Poland 1939, the Westfeldzug with the Invasion of the Low Countries and the Battle for France, the Centrifugal Offensive, etc. I would also offer, at a cost higher than DLC but slightly lower than the base game, extensive modding tools that do more than any of the previous modding tools available, to fully grift the loser modders so that way not only do they do it for free, but they've got to pay for the privilege too.
Something like this already exists, it's called War in the East and it's autistic as fuck.
 
or how you can't switch ideologies as America without a civil war that by the time it happens WW2 is already raging usually and you don't have time to really build up.
Isn't that an with the latest DLC too? And Battle for the Bosporus.
 
In keeping with the thread theme so far, how would YOU design HOI5? (Assuming you even want to.)
Using Paradox Game design for CK3/Vicky 3, no control over militaries, make it a gay politi sim where division control is dumped down and micromanagement is removed, strip out all features and make it barebones, and laugh when the dickriders defend that trash religiously.
 
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Lol, they're unironically peddling the same bullshit that the Japanese try to propagate with their "Pan-Asian" nonsense only they say this time it's actually okay because the people involved are all different shades of black and brown.

This might be one of the most retarded takes on Africa I've seen, literally taking the idea "all Africans are black so thus they must be the same culturally and linguistically" that people who have only interacted with African-Americans have about all African people.
 
There were two sub-DLCs for the Semper Fi DLC developed by a modder (back when Paradox worked with modders and released actual content, like AoD and DH for HoI2). Dies Irae was a German flavor DLC and Stars and Stripes was US flavor.

Unfortunately, this was also at the same time as the disaster that was East vs West and Paradox killed all support for modders working with them. The DLC got a hotfix on the forums to work with For the Motherland but it lost some things like the map textures to do it and is very unstable. Getting it to work these days is a real bitch. It's barely playable. HoI3 was not good until Their Finest Hour released, and these DLCs will not work with it.

DI and SaS are still on the Steam store page but you'll need to run the Semper Fi .exe from the folder. Definitely worth giving it a look, there's nothing online about these DLCs but they really do add a lot for Germany and the US specifically. If you've got the HoI3 pack on Steam, these come with that so you'll already own it.
Interesting, I went ahead and downloaded it just to check the files, I'm surprised nobody has gone back and ported some of this stuff over to HoI4, it would be fairly simple too. I suppose not that many people who own HoI3 even know they have this too.
Brandenburgers, especially surprised these guys arent even in vanilla.
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Großdeutschland
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Some kind of modern heavy armor? Called a heavy armor brigade in the file.
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Volkssturm
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Airborne, I wonder how historical that mohawk is.
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American partisan unit, I wonder what scenario this would show up in.
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National Guard is also represented.
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And finally an American superheavy tank, the T28 I believe.
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Airborne, I wonder how historical that mohawk is.
It's a reference to the "Filthy Thirteen", the name given to the 1st Demolition Section of the Regimental Headquarters Company of the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, of the United States Army, which fought in the European campaign in World War II.

One of the members of the unit was part Choctaw, a Native American tribe. He was the inspiration for why soldiers of the troop prior to D-Day applied war paint and wore their hair in the style of a mohawk. There was only ever less then 50 members of the 1st Demolition Section in the global conflict but their outfit is quite iconic when it comes to American involvement in World War 2, especially during Operation Overlord.

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Lol, they're unironically peddling the same bullshit that the Japanese try to propagate with their "Pan-Asian" nonsense only they say this time it's actually okay because the people involved are all different shades of black and brown.

This might be one of the most retarded takes on Africa I've seen, literally taking the idea "all Africans are black so thus they must be the same culturally and linguistically" that people who have only interacted with African-Americans have about all African people.
It makes sense that the tno devs use a similar argument as the empire of japan since they do like whitewashing them. For example, the old tv tropes entery for japan openly states that the fucking empire of japan wasn't as bad as Nazi Germany, despite doing the same things as them........ Or how the game text, and many members of the tno community genuinly believe that the Japanese were even close to being liberators. And remember, Esonazism got axed because of them "not wanting to whitewash Nazism." So much for that.

I'm pretty sure even anime is somehow created in tno's world, because I remember there being events talking about manga sales in guangdong. Despite the fact the first manga creators openly stating that their art is based on American animation, and you know, a fascist empire probably doesn't like other cultures. Just saying.

So basically according to tno devs, only western countries can be racist. Which, by the way, this is an common argument made in favor of Putin's russia and Xi's china.

The tno devs who claim all Africans or all Asians are the same thing are definitely racist, have a white saviour complex, or are just retarded. They sound just like those neo Nazis that talk about "muh white race needs to be united against Ze joos." Even though, as the Balkans prove, Europe, alongside all other contents are very diverse, even if you just take into account western Europe
. And even if everyone in West Africa are really the name, there still will be regional differences, similar to the different parts of the United States
 
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Kalterkrieg continues to slowly drag on:

Almost 2 years after the Pacific States progress report (to which the sequel never appeared) and 2 and a half years after the Union State progress report (which they never even pretended to make a sequel for), we got the update for the Third American Civil War. Sounds mildly interesting, right?

Well no, it's just a decision picker masquerading as quality content, like base KR has started doing. It's been almost 5 years since the first progress report, and they've still only implemented the most barebones/boring content, even for the most important nations.

You reckon they'll come out this year, like they promised for the 3rd year, or will it be another nothing burger?
 
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