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The TFR flavor expansion (that adds a bunch of flavor events to Russia, the US, and AWD) has the AWD kill penguinz0 after they take Tampa.
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Probably the content teased in the country select screen. A bunch are coming out for Russia including two new paths: A JUST Russia and Nazbol. My theory is that JUST Russia will be a pre-war path and Nazbol will be a post defeat one. You can technically still go Nazbol in the mod as Dugin.
I know I bitched about this before but what was/is up with the Ugly American update and story in TNO.
Yes I am using Tvtropes since this mod wants to be a tvtropes slop like that commie fanfic wank of TNO I posted before. Anyway not only did the initial Ugly American update fuck up so bad its incredibly tone-deaf to the rest of the stories and even the themes of TNO else where. first off its ripped from the literal book the Ugly American which while written by a socialist did make JFK create the peace corp. While good you can see some of the socialist simpery as in the book the Soviets are seen as intelligent and compassionate types who learn to fluently speak the SEA monkey language of the fictional nation and endear themselves to the people. Meanwhile the Americans are portrayed as boorish, self absorbed pricks, who do everything to be dumb and cruel. Never mind IRL it tended to be the inverse and we saw how much the Soviets even valued their own comrades and their culture in Europe.
But even with this its all tone-deaf. Its being critical of American foreign policy and imperialism with corporations in Haiti (Cause my heckin niggerinos!) but its tone deaf since the whole thing promotes pacifism not just in HOI4 of all things. This is the same game were your enemies are not commies that IRL had good PR of portraying themselves as patriots which I will give them that. You are fighting literal Nazis and actual Orc-rape Imperialism Japan. The whole thing is written like some teen's edgy rage against the machine of modern America not realizing this is a different timeline. And that is the thing. Its a different timeline. America is supporting commies in Cuba and Columbia and even sometimes in Asia. Circumstances and even what people want change.
Its an entirely different tone to the rest of the world who are put through the wringer by fascism and actually is pretty pro-america and neo-liberal but playing as America it feels like its tut-tutting you for daring to oppose the global empires. Kinda feels like the initial Panzer days when he was at his worse when he said the best thing to do would be to do nothing since authoritarian regimes collapse anyway! Its semi-related to the OTLism TNO has going on where people cannot fathom circumstances and people would be different. Dunno who it was but a while back someone made a good point that in this timeline the "hippies" would not exist as we know them but we extremely jingoistic and American patriots who see the U.S war machine as a crusade against fascism and the brown menace. On the flip side the anti-war movement and protesters would far-right and fascist groups who wonder why we are trying to fight the Germans civilizing Africa and wasting time trying to protect niggers. Even though I praised Panzer here I will admit South Africa being just a rip of OTL Vietnam including the SAME anti-war protesters being far-left wing types is just ridiculous. As if anything Gus Hall and the commies should arise if you make American society too gung-ho and jingoistic and Hall should be Browder's Apple Pie communism pumped up on roids. Meanwhile Yockey should be the cowardly option where Americans defeated in proxy wars like in WW2 give up and just decide to throw in the towel and join them.
TL;DR: Much like in KR the leftist bias of hating America because they are sneedy at them killing papa USSR is still in the TNO mod team and it hurts the story and themes. Both since in this world the USSR would be backed and promoted by America as a counter to Germany and Japan but goes against their own lore of already supporting communists. Its why you have posts like that giant comintern of a re-birthed warlord Russia. None of that is realistic but they can't stand a world where socialism got its shit kicked in and they need to rely on the U.S.
Yes I am using Tvtropes since this mod wants to be a tvtropes slop like that commie fanfic wank of TNO I posted before. Anyway not only did the initial Ugly American update fuck up so bad its incredibly tone-deaf to the rest of the stories and even the themes of TNO else where. first off its ripped from the literal book the Ugly American which while written by a socialist did make JFK create the peace corp. While good you can see some of the socialist simpery as in the book the Soviets are seen as intelligent and compassionate types who learn to fluently speak the SEA monkey language of the fictional nation and endear themselves to the people. Meanwhile the Americans are portrayed as boorish, self absorbed pricks, who do everything to be dumb and cruel. Never mind IRL it tended to be the inverse and we saw how much the Soviets even valued their own comrades and their culture in Europe.
But even with this its all tone-deaf. Its being critical of American foreign policy and imperialism with corporations in Haiti (Cause my heckin niggerinos!) but its tone deaf since the whole thing promotes pacifism not just in HOI4 of all things. This is the same game were your enemies are not commies that IRL had good PR of portraying themselves as patriots which I will give them that. You are fighting literal Nazis and actual Orc-rape Imperialism Japan. The whole thing is written like some teen's edgy rage against the machine of modern America not realizing this is a different timeline. And that is the thing. Its a different timeline. America is supporting commies in Cuba and Columbia and even sometimes in Asia. Circumstances and even what people want change.
Its an entirely different tone to the rest of the world who are put through the wringer by fascism and actually is pretty pro-america and neo-liberal but playing as America it feels like its tut-tutting you for daring to oppose the global empires. Kinda feels like the initial Panzer days when he was at his worse when he said the best thing to do would be to do nothing since authoritarian regimes collapse anyway! Its semi-related to the OTLism TNO has going on where people cannot fathom circumstances and people would be different. Dunno who it was but a while back someone made a good point that in this timeline the "hippies" would not exist as we know them but we extremely jingoistic and American patriots who see the U.S war machine as a crusade against fascism and the brown menace. On the flip side the anti-war movement and protesters would far-right and fascist groups who wonder why we are trying to fight the Germans civilizing Africa and wasting time trying to protect niggers. Even though I praised Panzer here I will admit South Africa being just a rip of OTL Vietnam including the SAME anti-war protesters being far-left wing types is just ridiculous. As if anything Gus Hall and the commies should arise if you make American society too gung-ho and jingoistic and Hall should be Browder's Apple Pie communism pumped up on roids. Meanwhile Yockey should be the cowardly option where Americans defeated in proxy wars like in WW2 give up and just decide to throw in the towel and join them.
TL;DR: Much like in KR the leftist bias of hating America because they are sneedy at them killing papa USSR is still in the TNO mod team and it hurts the story and themes. Both since in this world the USSR would be backed and promoted by America as a counter to Germany and Japan but goes against their own lore of already supporting communists. Its why you have posts like that giant comintern of a re-birthed warlord Russia. None of that is realistic but they can't stand a world where socialism got its shit kicked in and they need to rely on the U.S.
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Counterpoint: they'll sooner sympathize with 3rd world cannibal pedoforks than the people restraining them because their worldview is simply pro-cannibal pedofork. It needn't be more complex.
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What's also annoying is that as the US, you can do absolutely nothing in regard to Haiti or even just pick the fund development options and still get these events, there's no option either to just not get involved in this conflict.
It is indeed a bit stupid.
Its like the faggy shit in Spec Ops the line were its the video games cause violence moral message forced on you. You are forced to be dealing with Haiti and there is no way to not be involved with Haiti. Regardless its going to be a thing since sorry Reddit Chuderinos. Haiti is in the shadow of America. They are not going to heavily fortify what little they have especially when Dominica is like this timeline's Cuba just fascist.
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Spec Ops the Line is anti war, I've never heard of it being anti video game.
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They're adding the Supreme Court into TNO now - https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1lpv87v/us_supreme_court_teaser/
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You know, Amerimutt politics-wank is nice and all but can we get some more East Asian proxy war content?
Its not anti video game but more so like TNO that video games cause violence and TNO devs seems to support the whole "video games cause violence". Specs Ops the Line is exactly what I would compare to TNO and vice versa too. Specs Ops IMO would at least be better if it gave you choices to make in the game but the thing is the game is set in a linear fashion where it will do things like "You need to bomb this hospital and civilians to proceed in this game." which you then proceed to do which it then goes "OMG HOW COULD YOU! This is not only a commentary on the US military industrial complex but video games as a whole!" Its essentially COD TNO where it morally shames and tut-tuts you for playing the game.
Why this is stupid is that its like if GTA kept reminding you that killing hookers and stealing their money is bad actually or to bring it back to topic the thing that has been mentioned several times about TNO that it basically shames you for actually playing the game. Where the devs are the type that buy into the "video games = violence" and "Playing a thing = endorshment of it goals or morals" Its why even outside of the U.S playing as Germany and Japan is cancer. We obviously know fascism and fascist powers are bad but TNO fans want to make sure you get the meme so its why its tone can be jarring as they morally reprimand you. I used to work on the HOI4 star wars mod hearts of durasteel. Our literal faggot crippled poojeet commie mod outright said he did not want us to give the Galactic Empire a win state or path cause in his own words he felt it would give joy to fascists who enjoy the Empire. Its similar to faggots who call the enclave from Fallout Trump supporters.
Likewise America in TNO its more jarring and more in line with the Specs Ops shit as it morally spergs out at you and seems to have its own morals all over the place. America being in Haiti is bad but America invading the Dominican Republic is good, despite the fact they both require imperialism and death as wars are not fought with kisses. And if America did not support internationalism and interventionism then the fascist analog Cuba, Trujillo, is just going to invade the niggers anyway and do to TND to the island. Being in Haiti is wrong but we need to accept Haitian immigrants despite the fact they are immigrating cause of Trujillo which could have been prevented if we ignored your moral of "nothing ever happens and caring is gay!" And one of the cherries on top of this shit sandwich is that there is an event in game where the Haitian immigrants hold a cultural festival in New York... but they then bitch about U.S imperialism in Haiti and how that is cringe when again, one reason they are there is the literal fascist dictatorship they border. It would be like if the Ukes started to actually repeat vatnigger talking points and asked the U.S to stop supporting Ukraine. Its fucking retarded and its clear the writers are projecting their anti-America bias to TNO where it does not apply since said aforementioned faggot in the TNOverse would probably be an American simp given that they are trying to protect the niggerinos from TND Trujillo.
It sorta defeats the purpose of the mod and America's own storyline in TNO as I think other people here on this thread pointed out but also on the TNO subreddit in the past (before they started blocking people more). The whole goal and story if you click on play TNO is America is one of the last bastion of nations that are not only liberal but just not fascist in general. They fill you with a sense of purpose that you must push back from the drink of darkness and despair only to them sperg and kvetch at you for doing so. "Don't you know war is bad? I bet you feel stupid for playing our mod and this map game?"
"I don't need this game to give me an event every 3 months on how war is bad and all the Jerrys and Huns I used to grease my tank treads had families. I am currently invading Burgundy in WW3 and you already told me how ass they are and deserve no sympathy." - redditor on the TNO sub giving his own criticism of this I paraphrased liberally.
TL;DR: The game is filled with liberal and leftist smugness like Spec Ops the line that seems to hate you for playing the game and the mod and if that is the case what is the point? They quite literally want you to do nothing or nothing ever happens. Which does sum up modern TNO quite well.
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We should have a national registry of “Election Twitter” and TheCampaignTrail users that deny internet service to their addresses. There’s a <1% chance of this being fun, a 99% chance it’s a Wikipedia scrape with on-the-nose events. I assume Wallace is going to put out a cigar on Richard Loving of Loving v. Virginia while RFK wins out against evil chuds because abortion and gay marriage were popular in 1966.
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Spec Ops The Line is purposefully generic in the beginning so you have different expectations. If you don't know the plot of the game, then you're in for a wild ride. That's kind of my biggest criticism of the game. Once you know the story, the impact is gone. Still pretty fun to play if you just want a decent shooter.
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I just want to say that "NOTHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO MY NEGRORINOS" mentalyty is to coerce people to subconcoiusly not say shit when another pedo is out or discovered grooming little boys/girls in the discord "No stalker child you need to keep quiet about the messages we had,do you want le evil Natsis try to attack our mod and derail it´s puropuse liek the evil schizo nazi Slackjawed did against the poor trans Pink panzer,Atlantica and algeriangeneral?,don´t you know that almost lost thier opportunities at Paradox because off that stalker child,repent from making a Google Doc,RIGHT NOW"
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NSM rework in the near future.
Another Zero-Fun game mechanic to make playing the United States seem like operating a plane. Maybe one day they’ll remove Yockey and Hall due to concerns for “realism” and we’ll finally have the game that neolib Campaign Trail spergs finally wanted. A Democracy™ Simulator.
Unironically doe the Campaign Trail has been like crack to HOI4 community. I noticed the underage trans that mod these things started to get into it. Then it came around the same time as TNO America just becoming a campaign trail simulator.
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As much as I kind of appreciate how the NSM is literally a fossil preservation of 2000s Stormfront Neo-Nazism, to be very honest; yeah their content is kind of shit in the game right now. They are completely overshadowed by Patriot Front and Atomwaffen in both the game and even IRL.
Very sad, since the NSM can trace their roots all the way back to Rockwell's ANP so you would think out of all the 'Neo-Nazi' groups in America they have the highest legitimacy.
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TBF, Patriot Front would be (and is) seen much more favourible by the general population giving them more options and they also control a better geographic/industrial location. In light of that, NSM having more legitimacy due to lineage of the ANP means little.
It would be cool to have a conflict between both PF and NSM if the former could go down a traditionalist Nazi route that triggers infighting if NSM goes Rockwellian. But that would require both of them to share a border or something.
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The NSM is a relic from a bygone era of dissident right/far-right politics in the United States. They were one of the many groups to fade from relevancy rapidly after the Unite The Right Rally. It still technically exists though so relatively speaking it's doing better then entities like Vanguard America, Identity Evropa and the Traditionalist Worker Party.
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Good, currently I think they have the worst position since their front with Biden is too small and even taking upper Michigan doesn't seem to help much either.
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This always bugged me from the very first screenshots I saw.
Nothing is going to make New England into prime Patriot Front recruiting ground barring Sam Hyde somehow becoming a governor. New England is one of the only sections of the country the Feds actually care about the wellbeing of (because it's where most of the high ranking ones come from). It's been the strongest bastion of shitlibbery in the US for the past two centuries and is home to most of the Ivy League, which was ground zero for <insert synonym for progressive insanity here> in America and whose students would sooner join a black bloc than a thinly-veiled neo-fascist movement.