Race relations: Is it all the same?

[redlenses2112]

Tell that to The Rolling Stones. And the Beatles, if you're bent.

No one is complaining about the fact Keith Richards rufuses to take his mouth out of Chuck Berry's nutsack after 57 years and counting.

But yeah, 1964 was a mistake and The Who and The Kinks are objectively superior.

What, was that you say? No, Keith and etc will never make a good album ever again. Beggars Banquet is about as good as it can get. Knock yourself out, kiddo.

 

[redlenses2112]

I don't know how most people think most black people are BLM nutjobs because they aren't.

Negroes carry their Perpetual Racial Grievance™ industry literally everywhere they go. They don't need the blessing of BLM for that (Although it's becoming the new normal anyway so lol).

 

[KatsuKitty]

I don't think race relations have ever been this bad in this country, especially up North where it was seldom an issue. Obama's strategy of "blame whitey" is certainly to blame for them having fallen straight in the dumper.

 

[Hummingbird]

I don't think race relations have ever been this bad in this country, especially up North where it was seldom an issue. Obama's strategy of "blame whitey" is certainly to blame for them having fallen straight in the dumper.

Also, I think the nutsos started kicking harder when a black/mixed-race president threw a wrench in their narrative.

 

[Lachlan Hunter McIntyre]

No one is complaining about the fact Keith Richards rufuses to take his mouth out of Chuck Berry's nutsack after 57 years and counting.

But yeah, 1964 was a mistake and The Who and The Kinks are objectively superior.

What, was that you say? No, Keith and etc will never make a good album ever again. Beggars Banquet is about as good as it can get. Knock yourself out, kiddo.

The Kinks? Yes. The Who? I believe the name you were looking for is 'The Animals'.

 

[yuna]

I'm also curious about how other races view it when one of their own "raises above". I know there's a lot of pressure with Asians, but what about the other races?

I feel like that depends more on the community you're in. while Asian-Americans seem to have roughly similar experiences across the board (strong pressure from parents to succeed and prove themselves), I've never seen that sort of shared experience in other races.

for example, an ex of mine (who was black) experienced a lot of pressure from his family/community to do well and rise above the "thug" stereotype. black people within my community, however, seem to scoff at those who don't follow the stereotype, and discourage those who "act white". both attitudes are coming from fairly well-to-do black communities in the south, too.

 

[Male Idiot]

I feel like that depends more on the community you're in. while Asian-Americans seem to have roughly similar experiences across the board (strong pressure from parents to succeed and prove themselves), I've never seen that sort of shared experience in other races.

for example, an ex of mine (who was black) experienced a lot of pressure from his family/community to do well and rise above the "thug" stereotype. black people within my community, however, seem to scoff at those who don't follow the stereotype, and discourage those who "act white". both attitudes are coming from fairly well-to-do black communities in the south, too.

Gypsies too like the Uncle Tom method of keeping the brigther ones down.

 

[smallmilk]

I live near some gypsies so lemme just add a bit.

I rarely see adult males. Women with children usually walk around begging for money, sometimes they leave a few kids to patrol around a store to beg anyone who passes by to buy them a sandwich. This get very annoying if you happen to have to pass by there every day.
Ive noticed that women and children are always dressed in cheap clothing, however, male teenagers almost always have desinger shoes, latest iphones (with cracked screen mostly), diamond earrings and those douchebag undercuts.

 

[Male Idiot]

I live near some gypsies so lemme just add a bit.

I rarely see adult males. Women with children usually walk around begging for money, sometimes they leave a few kids to patrol around a store to beg anyone who passes by to buy them a sandwich. This get very annoying if you happen to have to pass by there every day.
Ive noticed that women and children are always dressed in cheap clothing, however, male teenagers almost always have desinger shoes, latest iphones (with cracked screen mostly), diamond earrings and those douchebag undercuts.

Don't forget the giant golden chains around their necks. The phones are cracked because they are stolen.

 

[ZeCommissar]

I live in the South, not the deep south however. Race relations here aren't that bad, I do think there are some closet racists in some of the whites and blacks around here, but that is generally because insulting a race will cause their respective hiveminds to destroy you. I would say another reason is that it would be rude to do so, and some people will think you're retarded
There are few Latinos and even very few Asians here, like I could probably say the Asian population here is less than 30.

The worst I have probably experienced personally is some dude in a truck yelling "nigger lover" to my mom when I was like 8, which honestly I kinda see as a funny memory.

There are many interracial relationships here, since whites and blacks are the majority its usually white/black, although I have seen a lot of black/asian, white/latino here as well. However on that note I have also heard stories of parents, or grandparents being racist and not accepting any interracial relationships, even on the black side.

A ex of mine had racist parents that did everything they could to destroy our relationship. She wasn't really worth all of that so hence the term ex. Another ex I have has a racist boyfriend that texted a Class V chimpout with a misspelled word every sentence calling me a nigger because I made her mad with something I said to her earlier, which in turn made him mad. Unfortunately he wasn't physically near me.

Maybe I should date better people.

It's a little surreal that this county is close to Monroe where the "Kissing Case" happened, and Charlotte where current riots have been happening.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

One of my best friends from high school is black, and he's still my best friend to this day. It was one of the smartest choices I've ever made because now no one can ever call me racist.

 

[Ravenor]

I don't think race relations have ever been this bad in this country, especially up North where it was seldom an issue. Obama's strategy of "blame whitey" is certainly to blame for them having fallen straight in the dumper.

Until a few years ago from the outside it looked like it was mostly OK in the USA from the outside at least, I knew there was extreamists on both sides that havent had the decency to just die out but I had no idea it was still that bad, but forever being the optimist I am I'd like to think this is the loud last gasps of this sort of shit before it dies out for good.

 

[Savryc]

If God wanted the races to be equal why did he make black the colour of evil?

Think about it.

 

[Lefty's Revenge]

All POC harbor at least some resentment towards whites in my experience. Now does that mean we dont have our own conflicts among each other? Absolutely not. But literally every race has had or is having a significant negative historical event based off of white racism or xenophobia.

At the top of the resentment list are Black people and Latino/hispanic in that order. In general Asians are the least hostile to white people but there is a common misconception that Asians just love white people unconditionally and its not that simple. The Japanese are a good example as they're one of the United states most vocal allies who often have higher approval ratings of the US than the US. Japan consumes american culture by the boatload like alot of the world and some Japanese youth genuinely love the US. But once you pass numerous levels of politeness there is some serious resentment and hostility still left from even when Japans borders were forced up let alone the atomic bomb.

I see this attitude here and elsewhere by alot of white people that everyone except black people loves white people and has no problem with them. But I would caution some of you as someone who hears conversations when white people aren't around that things like colonialism have affected almost every race on the planet and none of them have forgotten about it.

 

[Hummingbird]

All POC harbor at least some resentment towards whites in my experience. Now does that mean we dont have our own conflicts among each other? Absolutely not. But literally every race has had or is having a significant negative historical event based off of white racism or xenophobia.

At the top of the resentment list are Black people and Latino/hispanic in that order. In general Asians are the least hostile to white people but there is a common misconception that Asians just love white people unconditionally and its not that simple. The Japanese are a good example as they're one of the United states most vocal allies who often have higher approval ratings of the US than the US. Japan consumes american culture by the boatload like alot of the world and some Japanese youth genuinely love the US. But once you pass numerous levels of politeness there is some serious resentment and hostility still left from even when Japans borders were forced up let alone the atomic bomb.

I see this attitude here and elsewhere by alot of white people that everyone except black people loves white people and has no problem with them. But I would caution some of you as someone who hears conversations when white people aren't around that things like colonialism have affected almost every race on the planet and none of them have forgotten about it.

So is this the same with different European countries and each other? (With their whites.)

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I think we can make this all very simple...
Both sides are guided by the belief that they're doing what's best for their own people or kind. The tricky part about beliefs is that they're highly subjective and usually not that well anchored in objective reality. Let's talk about what is objective reality:

• Rapists from both the West (Mexicans, Africans, South and Central Americans) and the East (Islamas)
• Terrorism
• Murder
• Abduction
• Theft
• Riots
• Stupidity
• Overpopulation

I don't care what they color of your skin is or where you were born, I don't want anyone doing any of the previously mentioned to anyone I care about, so we send them back
The End
If you can't send them back, cut off their welfare benefits and let them live in the Forrest.
It's bad enough that highly educated people are now leaving their native countries because they fear for their safety.

 

[HG 400]

I dislike white people.

 

[AnOminous]

All POC harbor at least some resentment towards whites in my experience.

Pretty much everyone hates pretty much everyone.

 

[Jan_Hus]

On Friday, I finished up my first round of student teaching in an insanely poor high school, 10 teachers for 400 kids, in a town that probably won't exist anymore in 50 years, where the entire student body gets free lunch. The sophomore "at-risk" English class was having a discussion on race relations in modern America. I've never seen a franker, more candid discussion among adults, let alone students before. These kids were friendly, had well thought out points and agreed to disagree on several points that I've seen cause full on chimp outs in college classes. This wasn't an isolated occurrence either, my colleague who was student teaching in social studies, said that they had a very candid discussion in his class about Trump vs Hillary. Granted, in a school of 400, people don't clique together based on race, and I'm pretty sure that growing up in one of the poorest places in this country also tends to bond people. But there's no excuse that a bunch of college students and professionals can't sit down and hash this stuff out when a poor high school in a rapidly dying community can do it.

 

[Lefty's Revenge]

So is this the same with different European countries and each other? (With their whites.)

Meaning to white europeans hate other white europeans? Its not exactly my place to say but it sure does appear that alot of european history was driven by deep resentment of each other.

Pretty much everyone hates pretty much everyone.

Ehh. Yes everyone has had some kind of run in with everyone but the resentment a hatian might feel toward a a Dominican and the resentment they might have towards White people as a whole are wholly different.

I guess what Im saying is the fact that POC may hate other POC doesn't nullify the fact that they may hate white people even more.

I don't think race relations have ever been this bad in this country, especially up North where it was seldom an issue. Obama's strategy of "blame whitey" is certainly to blame for them having fallen straight in the dumper.

I'm going to come across as a dick here and thats not my intention but whatever. You don't actually believe a country thats been through slavery, Jim Crow, manifest destiny, the war on drugs, segregation and a civil rights movement that included high ranking government officials attempting to launch smear campaigns against Dr. King has never had worse race relations than now?

Its a very popular sentiment that race relations have regressed during the Obama years but honestly when you really look at it. There has been virtually no significant growth since the civil rights movement.

Think about it: Dr. Martin Luther King, who is easily the most radically pacifist activist in Black history was shot to death. The guy screaming peace got shot and if that doesn't tell the story of race relations in the 60s this was also the time period when a voting rights act, that was eventually gutted, had to be passed so that black people could vote without being attacked and disenfranchised.
The 70s brought in Nixon and his call to "The silent majority" which is pretty widely recognized as a dog whistle for fighting back against the civil rights movement and Black people. This set a nice groundwork for the war on drugs in the 80s which jailed and is jailing an obnoxious amount of disproportionately but of course not exclusively black and brown people for non-violent crimes or first time offenses. Bush pt. 1 practically won off of a campaign ad that inferred that Dukakis was cool with black criminals attacking people.
We're all probably pretty familiar with the super predator rhetoric and the crime laws that came under the Clinton Administration. Also like 12 Muslims made shit bad for brown people all around the world but in particular here in the U.S. and Bush was pretty "tough on immigration" and thats just kinda touching on all the problems Latino and Hispanic people would have had with white people.

Really when you look at it, we just convinced ourselves that things were better because the rioting mostly stopped. Very little has changed from the 50s and 60s until now. Voter disenfranchisement is still rampant like it was back then, cops are still killing black and brown people people and mostly white people are saying its justified like they were back then, and we're still divided like we were back then.