Ramadan killings

Islamic terrorists love to murder people during Ramadan. Although Ramadan is a time of fasting, self-restraint, and reflection for most Muslims, Islamist terrorists believe that there is no better time to rape, hurt, and murder people. In fact, the head of ISIS has encouraged its militants to kill as many "kuffir" as possible. Because of the sheer volume of attacks during Ramadan by groups like ISIS, Boko Haram, and so on, I thought it would be a good idea to have a general thread on this time period.

I'll get started with some of the most prominent attacks so far:

• ISIS opens fire on civilians fleeing Fallujah, killing 30 (June 10, 2016)
  
• ISIS bombs Shiite shrine in Damascus, killing at least 20 people (June 11, 2016)
• In Baghdad, a Sunni suicide bomber targeted a commercial district in a Shiite area, killing 19 people (June 9, 2016)
  
• Two Palestinians disguised as Orthodox Jews attack a retail area in Tel Aviv, killing 4 and wounding more (June 8, 2016)
• In Afghanistan, Islamic State members fired into a police station, killing 6 including the district police chief (June 11, 2016)
• At least 99 were killed and 41 more were wounded in ISIS-controlled territory (June 7, 2016)

I got depressed and stopped looking for news. This is probably just a third, if not less, of what's happened just since Ramadan started. Unfortunately, we're probably going to be seeing a lot more attacks, both in the Middle East and in the West.

 

[AnOminous]

Snopes says not quite.
http://www.snopes.com/three-syrian-refugees-assault-5-year-old-girl-at-knifepoint/

>jihadwatch.org

One of those urls to look out for because it is notorious for pulling shit like this.

 

[Cunty Boo Boo]

From what I understand Wahhabi is pretty much Islams equavelent of primordial Baptists or Dominionists or any of the other really batshit brands of Christianity. All the Abrahamic religions are pretty diverse, and you see a lot of the same kinds of crazy in the extremist brands of all of them since they're all derivatives of each other.

As a side on the subject of radical Islam groups that don't even allow music, that's something you also see with Pentecostals. I know quite a few people raised Pentecostal and shit is pretty ridiculous (though even they aren't as extreme as other weird offshoots of Christianity. Living in the Bible Belt means you see some shit).

Even amongst Penecostals it varies. Like, some Pentecostal churches don't allow women to wear makeup, they have to wear long skirts, etc. Other Pentecostal churches are pretty modern.

I used to be Pentecostal and my church spent more time on music (with lots of dancing, of course...Pentecostals sure love their dancing) than the actual sermon.

Unless you're talking about "secular" music, in which case, yeah. That stuff is definitely discouraged.

 

[The Great Chandler]

Not a killing, but some people in Turkey who attended a listening party for Radiohead's new album, A Moon Shaped Pool, were attacked by a gang of men who disapproved of the event being held during Ramadan. The news was shared via the Radiohead subreddit, where poster Rawkon reports that a gang of about 20 men “[beat] up the shop owner, manhandled the visitors, and vandalized the store” at Velvet Indieground in Istanbul at about 9 p.m. local time. Rawkon says the attack was motivated by anger over people drinking beer at the listening party.

Another poster replied (in the top rated-comment):



A video of the attack was posted:

Survivors of the attack are also posting their accounts—including some graphic pictures of their injuries—to the Facebook event page for the listening party.

Radiohead itself has responded to the incident, stating

"I'LL FUCK YOU IN THE ASS" I never knew Ramadan makes these thugs gay.

 

[Android raptor]

Even amongst Penecostals it varies. Like, some Pentecostal churches don't allow women to wear makeup, they have to wear long skirts, etc. Other Pentecostal churches are pretty modern.

I used to be Pentecostal and my church spent more time on music (with lots of dancing, of course...Pentecostals sure love their dancing) than the actual sermon.

Unless you're talking about "secular" music, in which case, yeah. That stuff is definitely discouraged.

Good to know. The people I know came from pretty extreme sects then (I also know people who've been to snake handling churches and gotten yelled at in tongues and other weird crap).

 

[Mark Corrigan]

The Religion of Peace isn't an unbiased website, but they do keep track of Islamic terrorist attacks. According to the sources they've compiled, 376 people have died in Islamic terrorist attacks since June 5th:

View attachment 103187

Does this website specify how many of those attacks were aimed at other Muslims? As far as I know, the objects which are most likely to get blown up during Ramadan are mosques.

Not a killing, but some people in Turkey who attended a listening party for Radiohead's new album, A Moon Shaped Pool, were attacked by a gang of men who disapproved of the event being held during Ramadan.

The people who were assaulted were most likely Muslims themselves.

 

[AN/ALR56]

Does this website specify how many of those attacks were aimed at other Muslims? As far as I know, the objects which are most likely to get blown up during Ramadan are mosques.



The people who were assaulted were most likely Muslims themselves.

Why the religion of the victims matters?

 

[Mark Corrigan]

Why the religion of the victims matters?

Because saying that attackers represent "Islam" in those cases and that it was "Islam" that made them do it means throwing innocent victims into the same bag with the perpetratos which is a dick move if you ask me.

 

[AN/ALR56]

Because saying that attackers represent "Islam" in those cases and that it was "Islam" that made them do it means throwing innocent victims into the same bag with the perpetratos.

The Pope ordered the crusaders to clear the holy land of infidels,a lot of Jews,m Muslims and orthodox Christhians were cut down.
Why can't we blame the sect?
Shia hates Sunni and vice versa.

 

[Mark Corrigan]

The Pope ordered the crusaders to clear the holy land of infidels,a lot of Jews,m Muslims and orthodox Christhians were cut down.
Why can't we blame the sect?

Because, unlike with Catholicism, I cannot think of any significant Muslim sect that has a dominant, central religious authority. Perhaps @Ntwadumela could correct me on this.

 

[Ntwadumela]

Because, unlike with Catholicism, I cannot think of any significant Muslim sect that has a dominant, central religious authority. Perhaps @Ntwadumela could correct me on this.

As far as I know there is no dominant central religious authority for Islam. There are some organizations dedicated to Islam in different countries, but they have little effect on a global scale. Every nation practices a certain variation of Sunni or Shia Islam, which in themselves are variations of the same religion. Saudi Arabians follow Islam differently than people from Lebanon and Morocco for example. Different imams and mutawas have differing opinions on interpretations of the Quran and even fatwas made in other countries. It's a bit of a mess.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Does this website specify how many of those attacks were aimed at other Muslims? As far as I know, the objects which are most likely to get blown up during Ramadan are mosques.



The people who were assaulted were most likely Muslims themselves.

So what?

 

[Mark Corrigan]

So what?

I've already replied to that.

 

[Cosmos]

Morocco: Diabetic Person Beaten up for Drinking Water During Ramadan (What's so fucked up about this is that, by Islamic law, people are exempted from fasting if they have a medical condition that makes abstaining from food and water dangerous. Guess these assholes didn't get the memo.)

Kuwaiti man murders his older brother for not fasting and praying during Ramadan because his brother is an "apostate."

A mob of 300 riots and causes many injuries in a Punjab town after torn pages of the Quran were allegedly found.

 

[AnOminous]

A mob of 300 riots and causes many injuries in a Punjab town after torn pages of the Quran were allegedly found.

 

[Ruin]

Morocco: Diabetic Person Beaten up for Drinking Water During Ramadan (What's so fucked up about this is that, by Islamic law, people are exempted from fasting if they have a medical condition that makes abstaining from food and water dangerous. Guess these assholes didn't get the memo.)

Kuwaiti man murders his older brother for not fasting and praying during Ramadan because his brother is an "apostate."

A mob of 300 riots and causes many injuries in a Punjab town after torn pages of the Quran were allegedly found.

Isn't Kuwait the country what's his face keeps trying to convince us is totally peaceful and secular?

 

[autisticdragonkin]

Isn't Kuwait the country what's his face keeps trying to convince us is totally peaceful and secular?

@Ntwadumela is from kuwait

 

[Ntwadumela]

Isn't Kuwait the country what's his face keeps trying to convince us is totally peaceful and secular?

They arrested the guy.
Doesn't that show they had common sense and rationale? Crimes like this don't happen as often as you think they would, and I never said my country was perfect either.
Here are the crime rates by country as of 2016 since you are someone who likes to present data for her arguments.
(Kuwait ranks with lower rates than the U.S.) with an extra link for other years
http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate
Note again I do not hate the U.S. and actually love it. But I have to state facts whenever possible.

 

[Marvin]

They arrested the guy.
Doesn't that show they had common sense and rationale? Crimes like this don't happen as often as you think they would, and I never said my country was perfect either.
Here are the crime rates by country as of 2016 since you are someone who likes to present data for her arguments.
(Kuwait ranks with lower rates than the U.S.) with an extra link for other years
http://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate
Note again I do not hate the U.S. and actually love it. But I have to state facts whenever possible.

I don't think this is a comparison you will win.

We have crime because we have poor people. People are trying to eliminate poverty. You have crime because you have Islam. No one's trying to eliminate Islam, and that'd be a highly offensive suggestion.

Or, maybe people could try to fix Islam? People have been campaigning against the caste system in India for years. If you campaigned about the shitty parts of Islam, in one of the shittier Islamic countries, you'd probably be assassinated. All I hear from Muslims is apologia. Is that everything I need to hear? Excuses and suicide bombings?

 

[Ntwadumela]

I don't think this is a comparison you will win.

We have crime because we have poor people. People are trying to eliminate poverty. You have crime because you have Islam. No one's trying to eliminate Islam, and that'd be a highly offensive suggestion.

Or, maybe people could try to fix Islam? People have been campaigning against the caste system in India for years. If you campaigned about the shitty parts of Islam, in one of the shittier Islamic countries, you'd probably be assassinated. All I hear from Muslims is apologia. Is that everything I need to hear? Excuses and suicide bombings?

You're forgetting that Islam has different schools of thought that vary from one another. Not everyone views or interprets the religion in the same way. Lots of Muslims such as myself don't believe in these primitive ideas. My point is to look at your own country before judging others', since crime is literally everywhere in the world. I know you deeply feel this way and understand where you come from, but there are a lot of people like myself that you most likely haven't met. I was born in the U.S. to Kuwaiti parents and stayed there for a few years. I'm educated and informed about my culture and others'. The fact that guy was arrested shows that my country doesn't approve of such crimes.

 

[Marvin]

You're forgetting that Islam has different schools of thought that vary from one another. Not everyone views or interprets the religion in the same way. Lots of Muslims such as myself don't believe in these primitive ideas.

I know that's the case. Believe me, I've listened to it all. North Africa and the Middle East are a hotbed of the shitty kind of Islam. So the "minority opinion" argument really doesn't hold very well. The numbers for that position don't really work, wouldn't you agree?

My point is to look at your own country before judging others', since crime is literally everywhere in the world.

And my point is that that's a terrible point to make.

It's the modern day equivalent of the Soviet cliche "and you are lynching negroes".

This is my favorite one:

In a 1962 version, an American and a Soviet car salesman argue which country makes better cars. Finally, the American asks: "How many decades does it take an average Soviet man to earn enough money to buy a Soviet car?" After a thoughtful pause, the Soviet replies: "And you are lynching Negroes!"

The fact that guy was arrested shows that my country doesn't approve of such crimes.

Well, the most it shows directly is that your country's government doesn't approve of crime.