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I agree that Chris did this shit entirely without any manipulation or weening on anyone else’s part, I’m tired too of people thinking that it was the work of trolls or weens and orbiters manipulating him behind the strings and being responsible for his degradation as a person, in rare cases like the idea guys yes. Those guys suck and were rightly hated and mocked and mainly anything Chris has done by trolls was never forced upon him. He was always the one to instigate or do any stupid shit he told them to because of gullibility and his own stupidity in not wanting to hold any information back about himself. Time and time again.

But I also do not think that all of Chris’s life is his fault, like it’s mentioned before he did have a genuinely shitty hand in many parts of his life, having autism, being a mute for seven years and having genuinely shitty and coddling parents are all pretty big hurdles to have in childhood, while certainly not all an excuse, are definitely shitty things I wouldn’t wish upon anyone.

I agree, in my response to PointlessSperg above, I considered mentioning how the Emily Date also was a hurdle for Chris, not because of anything the trolls did, but because of Bob not letting his grown ass son enjoy a date and instead try to make his son's date with a girl be a moment for Bob to get attention. Even if one were a father that wanted to meet their son's date, you'd probably introduce yourself and like go sit at a separate table or something. The Emily Date may be more accurately described as the Emily-Bob date because Chris was little more than a hype man for Bob aside from a few awkward attempts at complimenting Emily (You look like you're straight out of Sailor Moon!).

however am beginning to think more and more of the idea that Chris may or may not have experienced some unknown traumatic event in his life that he has never told anyone to this day and has not been known by anyone but him. Specifically, I think it is possible he may have one day been abused sexually or beaten up by some horrible predator when he was a child and has blocked the memory from his mind. Or he remembers and has sever PTSD. Extremely dark thought, but considering what he’s just done to his mother, it may explain his horrific actions.

Do you think it’s possible? If Chris was the recipient of sexual abuse himself at one point of his life? Many famous predators or sick fucks were known to have been victims themselves which creates the horrible cycle of abuse, abused to abuser, continuing on until justice is taken. It’s a big stretch but so you think it’s possible? If it’s true, wouldn’t that explain so much of how Chris turned out to be? Would it cast a more sympathetic light on Chris and all of his history?

Nikes pretty much highlights the publicly known trauma. The Babysitter being abusive is verified by Cole though he didn't elaborate on that. So whether it be what Chris said or not you can maybe argue. Or the Greene County stuff.

I don't think Chris' negative behaviour comes from any bad situation like getting touched or beaten as a child. Neglected maybe, but he seemed well adjusted when he believed everything was going for him. It wasn't until he started his Love Quest that some of his negative traits came out. For the most part he was some sleepy slacker who wanted to be left alone with his media and toys. Lack of percieved social value mixed with loneliness, porn and trolling made the monster we see today, everything else he was born with. The porn angle is rarely brought up and if I had to pick one outside force that had the most negative effect on his life I would go with that.

Chris' brain is some weird amalgamation of media he consumes mixed with his own interpretation and nothing else. So while Chris doesn't believe that offering to mow some hot MILF's lawn will give him China, he does believe or believed, that once you are in a relationship and feel comfortable enough to be sexually active that it's no holds barred the nastiest shit. This explains why he doesn't see anything wrong with two bubbly cartoon characters in Holy Matrimony copulating in what was supposed to be a comic book made for 12 year olds. It explains why he believes that Liquid Chris would eat his own comeuppance off of Kacey. It explains why he'd be okay with getting pegged by a girlfriend or why it's okay for him to have sex with a stripper while his girlfriend or wife is at home.
 
The porn angle is rarely brought up and if I had to pick one outside force that had the most negative effect on his life I would go with that.
I very much agree with this. A lot of people enjoy the company of slow in da minds who are just kind of innocent. But add the sexual stuff plus lack of theory of mind and he becomes intolerable and gives off skeevy vibes.
 
Following question, what would happen to barb now that she is a victim of sexual assault?

We don't know she is a victim of sexual assault. All we have is Chris' word for what happened between him and Barb, and Chris is not a reliable source. So far Chris is only charged with misdemeanor incest, not rape, which may mean the prosecution doesn't even know what they fuck Chris and Barb were up to.

tl;dr: We don't actually know much for certain about anything, but what we do know is very, very icky.


Look up the story of the Crazy Pacer, where Chris actually approached Anna and asked her if she was available.

Only after she and the rest in her store waved at him and all but invited him in. So once again, Chris did not make the first move.

Look up the entirety of the Megan Saga and if you want to get into the post-contact era, the Wallflower.

All we know about Megan and the Wallflower is that Chris initially met them in person in neutral territory, namely the Game Place and some young adult social event. We do NOT know who approached who, but given Chris' behavior elsewhere, it's likely both Megan and the Wallflower approached him first (not yet knowing any better) and then Chris, being Chris, completely failed to recognize their social cues.

It's baffling to me that people seem to get the idea that a fat, autistic, no prospects, narcissistic coom brain can't find a girlfriend and that it must be him "not trying hard enough"

I don't know where you think you got that idea from me. I never said anything like that. All I said is that Chris didn't pursue women like a hunter in his Love Quest, he approached his Love Quest more like a fisherman.

Except Chris has no bait.

That said, there are things Chris could have done that would actually have helped him in this Love Quest. However the first of those things was to stop being Chris. In other words, Chris would have had to recognize that he needed to change himself, to improve himself, but that would have required some actual self awareness in Chris.

Additionally I don't fault Chris for believing he should have attention from women.

Chris goes beyond that, though. He believes he is entitled to attention from women, and it's the universe's responsibility to provide it to him.


While I still posit that Chris could have scored with old ladies other than Barb, he had no hope with any actually-fertile woman to speak of.

Again, there are things Chris could have done to change that. He could have recognized his own limitations, paid attention in school, learned to fake some social skills, held onto a job, exercised, bathed, and so on and so on. At the end of all that he would have greatly improved his chances with women, but at the cost of not being Chris any more. He would have made himself into someone else entirely (that the internet likely never would have heard of).

Not that he was ever going to do any of this (because he's, well, Chris) but at one time the potential did exist somewhere out there in the multiverse. I mean the raw material was there all along, but not after what Chris has done with it.



he did have a genuinely shitty hand in many parts of his life

It's not the hand you're dealt. It's how you play it that matters.

I believe it's been well established elsewhere that Chris would suck at Candyland. He has no chance at poker. And, well, we can all see for ourselves how he's played out his own life.

All the worst things to happen to Chris have been the direct result of his own choices. Not trolls. Not weens. Chris himself.

I however am beginning to think more and more of the idea that Chris may or may not have experienced some unknown traumatic event in his life that he has never told anyone to this day and has not been known by anyone but him.

I don't think there's any point in thinking up hypothetical excuses for Chris. He invents enough of those all on his own.

considering what he’s just done to his mother, it may explain his horrific actions.

His actions are equally explained by the fact that he's simply a horrible person. Occam's Razor.



I think the zenith of the example of Chris both trying hard in a classical way and having absolutely zero standards was Kacey.

Chris "trying hard" was never going to be enough. Again, it's like fishing. Chris can cast his line a hundred, a thousand, a million times and it's never going to go anywhere without any bait. He'd have better success metaphorically wading in with a club (not that I'm recommending that - just comparing odds).

I think of that polygamy group of 4 guys dating that one unattractive girl in that one house and that there are worse things out there than striking out your whole life.

I have no idea what you're talking about (nor do I want to), but I think that shows there are worse people out there than Chris who achieve "success" in their own Love Quests. Yuck.

The porn angle is rarely brought up and if I had to pick one outside force that had the most negative effect on his life I would go with that.

If anything, porn taught Chris that sexual gratification can be achieved via minimal effort. And we all know how Chris tends to apply the media he consumes to real life.
 
Only after she and the rest in her store waved at him and all but invited him in. So once again, Chris did not make the first move.

Look up the entirety of the Megan Saga and if you want to get into the post-contact era, the Wallflower.

All we know about Megan and the Wallflower is that Chris initially met them in person in neutral territory, namely the Game Place and some young adult social event. We do NOT know who approached who, but given Chris' behavior elsewhere, it's likely both Megan and the Wallflower approached him first (not yet knowing any better) and then Chris, being Chris, completely failed to recognize their social cues.

It's baffling to me that people seem to get the idea that a fat, autistic, no prospects, narcissistic coom brain can't find a girlfriend and that it must be him "not trying hard enough"

I don't know where you think you got that idea from me. I never said anything like that. All I said is that Chris didn't pursue women like a hunter in his Love Quest, he approached his Love Quest more like a fisherman.

Except Chris has no bait.

That said, there are things Chris could have done that would actually have helped him in this Love Quest. However the first of those things was to stop being Chris. In other words, Chris would have had to recognize that he needed to change himself, to improve himself, but that would have required some actual self awareness in Chris.


The idea is more of a general one that your post gave off which I responded. I didn't realize you were so specific with your criticism of him. I think expecting anyone to approach a strange woman in public via a cold opener without her really acknowledging you is expecting too much, but that argument gets into a lot of autistic details like what kind of place, is there alcohol, is there any interaction etc. I don't think Chris ever had problems going up and talking to women though, and your right I'd be hard pressed to bring up a specific example of Chris walking up to a girl who didn't acknowledge him at all and begin hitting on her.

I believe you agree that it wouldn't necessarily help his chances if he did anyway.

I think the zenith of the example of Chris both trying hard in a classical way and having absolutely zero standards was Kacey.

Chris "trying hard" was never going to be enough. Again, it's like fishing. Chris can cast his line a hundred, a thousand, a million times and it's never going to go anywhere without any bait. He'd have better success metaphorically wading in with a club (not that I'm recommending that - just comparing odds).

I think of that polygamy group of 4 guys dating that one unattractive girl in that one house and that there are worse things out there than striking out your whole life.

I have no idea what you're talking about (nor do I want to), but I think that shows there are worse people out there than Chris who achieve "success" in their own Love Quests. Yuck.

The porn angle is rarely brought up and if I had to pick one outside force that had the most negative effect on his life I would go with that.

If anything, porn taught Chris that sexual gratification can be achieved via minimal effort. And we all know how Chris tends to apply the media he consumes to real life.

I'd link you the video, but it's difficult to find. It could have been taken down because one of the guys beat the child of one of the other guys like 8 months after the video was uploaded. But yeah you're right here.
 
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I'd link you the video, but it's difficult to find. It could have been taken down because one of the guys beat the child of one of the other guys like 8 months after the video was uploaded. But yeah you're right here.
Oh man, is that the one where the woman is a snorlax landwhale, the father looks like a retard / coomer wojak, the child beater looks like a soyed up Alex Jones and the other 2 look like soyjaks?

From rebbit:
A video featuring the couple before the incident (worth the watch): https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/08/polyamorous-woman-falls-pregnant-by-one-of-her-four-lovers-11409658/

Article about the abuse (child suffered a broken leg, arm, ribs, and skull fractures): https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20200325/jacksonville-man-jailed-in-abuse-of-5-week-old-baby
 
I agree that Chris did this shit entirely without any manipulation or weening on anyone else’s part, I’m tired too of people thinking that it was the work of trolls or weens and orbiters manipulating him behind the strings and being responsible for his degradation as a person

I don't know, something still feels off. The part that gets me the most is "The Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability". Chris doesn't fucking read books that aren't children's books. His reading in jail is only happening because he has no more vidya, tv, or internet. He also has zero research skills. I feel like at some point someone had to have suggested it to him -- it's super unlike any book Chris would find on his own.

I'm not in the "Bella made him do it!" camp. I'm just saying that there could very well be some confluence of ideas that reached Chris in private that we don't know about. In particular his "allied goddesses" which I do not think are just him referring to characters in CWCville.

no, zero percent chance of it being possible. Chris has no filter and cannot keep shit secret, he would have talked about it in some capacity to someone. If he had I'm sure there would be some screen shot like "This is 100% confidential and stays between my devoted followers and genuine psychic type deities, roach sucked on my duck or whatever".

I'll go one further and say that if he'd gotten a blow job as a kid or something, he would have bragged about it if it was a girl or raged about it if it was a "homo". He certainly went off on the principal just for having him sit on his lap.
 
It's baffling to me that people seem to get the idea that a fat, autistic, no prospects, narcissistic coom brain can't find a girlfriend and that it must be him "not trying hard enough" despite one of the positive traits Chris had in the Classic Era being high productivity albeit of mediocre shit or even worse that his "standards are too high" when he was fine with dating women who could have their own exhibit at Sea World.
Back in the Golden Years, you can find Chris talking about his attempts to harass ask out women in his day to day chats with trolls, and you are correct that Chris did actively seek out women, hard. He had mentioned that his "noviophobia" was caused by his constantly getting told that they already had a boyfriend, and first mentioned it to his psychiatrist in 2004. It sounds like he was going after potentially every and any women he found "up to his standards" in the first few months of his Lovequest and asking them out. That had to have been horrible for any young woman in Ruckersville, PVCC, or Charlottesville.

Fridays at Five must have been a buffet for Chris, and that was in 2010, so already six years after his first utterance to a shrink, and probably was getting told the same line. That didn't dissuade him from charging ahead and going after what he wanted.
At one point, I noticed a girl, who looked like she was probably still in highschool, jump up on the ledge beside Chris to join a group of friends who happened to be stationed behind the manbaby. In the process, Chris turned to her and it looked like he said something to her, because immediately her facial expression changed from a legit happy one to a forced smile one. She joined up with her friends and they immediately huddled up together, whispering about something. At the same time they all looked up at Chris, and laughed. I can only imagine what he had said to the poor girl. A few moments later, one of the guys in the group picked up his cell phone and snapped a picture of Chris from behind.

I think too, at Impulse, he was seen as going and interacting with a bunch of college aged lesbians, shrieking and making goofy noises. So at least close to 15 years Chris has been approaching young women and trying to initiate contact. That's horrifying.
Additionally I don't fault Chris for believing he should have attention from women. Most men or women want to think they're attractive to the opposite sex. Chris' fault is that this desire isn't tempered by reality like is the case for most people, not that he believes he should have it at all.
It furthers the theory that Chris doesn't exactly understand the basics of something like love and attraction and the hows and whys, instead treating the entire thing like getting an inanimate object or an achievement. It doesn't help that all through growing up, he's watch the Borb unit and their near psychotic shit, and probably believes that dysfunctional, or way out of whack relationships are the norm. Mix that in with Hollywood tropes with romance and sex Chris has absorbed over the decades like "the nerdy guy gets the hot chick" or some couple meets and ends up fucking after accidentally bumping into each other or over a stupid pickup line and you can see how fucked up his views on personal interactions are.

I often wonder if Chris's old time revulsion to jerkmales taking all the girls comes from that area of Virginia and early 20s bro-dudes and their pickup trucks. If he was going after every young, hot woman he saw, odds are more favorable he would bump shoulders with "jerks" like that, yet still wonder why the girl didn't pick him over that douche.

But at the end of the day, Chris really never made any attempts at improving his outside image to make himself more attractable, which is really strange. Outside of hosing himself down with Axe, but that just came from the commercials. Chris just believed that women would be automatically attracted to him for.. reasons.
 
I didn't realize you were so specific with your criticism of him.

You always have to be specific with Chris. I mean, yes, in the general sense he's horrible. But the interest lies in exactly how he's horrible.

I think expecting anyone to approach a strange woman in public via a cold opener without her really acknowledging you is expecting too much,

That's how we used to do it. Find a girl looking wistfully at the dance floor, walk right up to her, and ask her, "Do you want to dance?"

Do kids still dance these days?

I don't think Chris ever had problems going up and talking to women though,

I'm not so sure about that. Chris has always been intimidated to all hell by Barb (at least up until recently), and I suspect that intimidation might extend to all women, at least initially. Chris' efforts to meet women have always started out extremely passively. It's only after he (incorrectly) thinks he's had a few "nibbles" (to use the fishing analogy again) that he proceeds to come on way too strongly and, more's the point, creepily.

I believe you agree that it wouldn't necessarily help his chances if he did anyway.

You've got that right. It wouldn't help him at all.

Semi-unrelated, but when Chris released the Rollin and Trollin video, my first thought was: "Holy fuck, it was all just an act?
He's been playing us all along?" When Chris inevitably released another video to gloat about "fooling" all of us, my second thought was: "Goddammit Chris, instead of playing that alternate version of yourself to fool people, why not try to actually BE that alternate you?" I mean, yes, Rollin & Trolling Chris came off as a massive douchebag, but for Chris that's a huge improvement.

Seriously, I know women who've said they'd consider fucking Rollin & Trollin Chris. Not that they'd actually fuck him, mind you, but they'd consider it.

I'd link you the video, but it's difficult to find.

That's OK. I don't think I'd want to watch it anyways.

It could have been taken down because one of the guys beat the child of one of the other guys like 8 months after the video was uploaded. But yeah you're right here.

What the fuck is wrong with people?


We know that whatever happened, it involved Chris thrusting his penis into Barb's vagina. There is really no excuse for this malevolent activity.

Why is it always like a bad episode of X-Files whenever Chris' genitals are involved?


The part that gets me the most is "The Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability".

That's a bit of a WTF for me as well. However, at the time I believe the consensus was that Barb was elderly, but not actually disabled. I would have expected something more along the lines of "The Ultimate Guide to Sex with the Elderly" (I am NOT going to check and see if that book actually exists). I can see Chris ordering a guidebook that's not quite right, only to leave it on the floor when he finds out it's full of words, not pictures (likely he's to proud to resort to Incestuous Rape for Dummies).

Regardless of the book's original source, it does show a creepy measure of planning and intent on the part of Chris.


"the nerdy guy gets the hot chick"

Chris isn't nerdy. I doubt he even (incorrectly) thinks of himself as nerdy.
 
I just had this bizarre thought that Chris can be lucky that no troll ever pushed him towards trying out autoerotic asphyxiation.
He'd have done the Carradine only a short time later.

I know it couldn't happen. But what if Chris knocked Barb up?
We'd get a couple Wrong Turn" style inbreds.
 
Regarding Chris and his habit of stress sighing...

I know he's been a big fan of Peanuts all of his life, and there were quite a few comic strips from its heyday in the late 1950s and throughout the sixties where the punchline was one of the characters, usually Charlie Brown, looking towards the fourth wall and exclaiming "Sigh" after one of the other kids had either told them off or otherwise embarrassed them somehow.

Chris was probably gullible enough to think that most people reacted this way when confronted by difficult or humiliating situations. It may not have anything to do with his poor health, or any problems breathing.
Back when I was in high school we had this semi retarded kid at my bus stop who always did that stupid sigh just like Chris, maybe it's just a common thing with slow in the minds.
 
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I don’t know how unpopular this is but I kind of do wish Chris had continued to do Sonichu comics long after the classic era and wish he’d tried to ignore Asperchu compromising the Integrity and ability to escape into his his world and justo whyver he wanted,. The comics were the few things that was kind of innocent fun for him, and more indicative of the relatively more grounded stupid, dorky autistic manchild he once was. If he had done that and just cared about his silly comics 24/7 instead of all this trans/ dimensional merge/ sonic boom/ Goddess/ idea guy stuff. None of this Incest/ prison saga would have ever happened I feel.
 
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Back when I was in high school we had this semi retarded kid at my bus stop named Robert who always did that stupid sigh just like Chris, maybe it's just a common thing with slow in the minds.

It's from cartoons. Autists learn from the media they consume. For instance, weeb autists tend to talk like they're in Naruto.
 
None of this Incest/ prison saga would have ever happened I feel.

The incest would still have happened. It was a result of opportunity and Chris' laziness, among other things. Drawing comics and staying off the internet would not have changed those factors. At most they might have prevented the world from discovering the incest.
 
The comics were the few things that was kind of innocent fun for him, and more indicative of the relatively more grounded stupid, dorky autistic manchild he once was.
I'm not so sure. In their very earliest days, maybe, but even then he was planning on taking out his rage against Mary Lee Walsh and assorted Jerkops for their perceived transgressions against him. Later, he starts putting his wank-fantasies both for Sonichu and Rosechu and himself and Ivy into the comics, and he ends up frothing with fury and delivering hideous deaths to people who have the gall to mildly take the piss out of him.

There's a valid argument that the comics were a safety-valve for Chris's more unwholesome tendencies at various points (and for that, maybe, we should be grateful), but I don't think that they were ever exactly grounded, much less innocent.
 
Back when I was in high school we had this semi retarded kid at my bus stop named Robert who always did that stupid sigh just like Chris, maybe it's just a common thing with slow in the minds.
Yeah I'd agree, he even does it when he's alone too. Chris going into court.

 
Back when I was in high school we had this semi retarded kid at my bus stop named Robert who always did that stupid sigh just like Chris, maybe it's just a common thing with slow in the minds.
Yea noticed that most of the local tards do that.Also most of them appear to always breathe through their mouths. And all of them are obsessed with wrestling and anime.
 
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Autists learn from the media they consume.
I guess because autists often or usually have no friends - because autism alienates - so the only real exposure to how "normal" people act is filtered through mass media?

(and of course autists can struggle with distinguishing fact from fiction)
 
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