Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[A-№1]

He'll waddle on back regardless, once he finds out that he's not required to stay wherever they put him.

They'll probably either put him somewhere he's required to stay or somewhere that's too far away to waddle. Chris doesn't have a car any more, and it's not like he's going to walk all the way from, say, Virginia Beach.

That and doesn't the law say something about 30 days being the max?

The thirty day time limit is on the looking for a placement, not the placement itself. Wherever they put him, they'll want it to be long term (or at least as long term as they can manage - beds might be hard to come by in Virginia). Nobody wants to keep having to deal with Chris over and over.

 

[FightenGnome]

Me and Mewtwo already have it covered. Fuck Magichan. He’s going to need more… convincing.

If there's one thing we know about Magi-Chan now is that he'll do anything for dick. Just whip it out on the condition he'll help you. Take one for the team

 

[Ophelia]

This will literally be Chris if he's not put in a home.

It’s literally Phil already.

Like say someone cloned your boyfriend/girlfriend and after meeting them your best friend almost immediately started to hook up with them. Wouldn't that leave you with some questions?

I used to know someone who divorced a man and married his twin. The personality differences were crucial. Plus, if I was with someone wonderful and he was cloned, I’d be happy for whoever ended up with him (unless he turned out to be a dirtbag).

Meanwhile, one of the reasons the incest trial is dragging on for a year is Barb isn't present. She's not there to tell Chris to take the plea deal like she did the last few times.

Bingo.

Keeping him in jail is a possibility, but it largely depends on what other options they have available for housing him.

I thought they had to let him out after a year? Law is confusing. No wonder you have to go to school for it.

Chris doesn't have a car any more, and it's not like he's going to walk all the way from, say, Virginia Beach.

But what about weens on wheels? I’m among those who are doubtful about how many of them would actually let Chris stay in their home, but giving him a ride is a different story.

 

[thegooddoctor]

Stepping aside from the pony talk for a bit, Does anybody remember Chris's weird art era during the ED era in 2008 of 'You know what I hate me TOO!' where he kinda snapped from all the abuse he was taking and in a weird attempt to be self aware he showed art from his comic of times were him or one of his fursonas suffered some stupid injury or punishment in the comic? It was a weird attempt at trying to give himself some sort of humility and awareness to himself, not realising that the acts he was displaying were ridiculous, fictional and would be impossible for a real person to survive anyway so the mesaage of humility was lost?

It made me wonder what if Chris did have more humility and was self aware, what if during the later parts of his trolling Chris took the piss out of himself more, deliberately playing up his stupidity and calling himself a fat idiot and self deprecating himself all the time. Would it have made trolling far more difficult to do if he made fun of his flaws more while still acting stupidly. trolling would have gone very differently and I imagine it would have enraged people like Clyde, Alec and Kacey. You can’t hurt someone’s feelings if their in on the joke? How do you think they would have reacted?

 

[Nointey]

Stepping aside from the pony talk for a bit, Does anybody remember Chris's weird art era during the ED era in 2008 of 'You know what I hate me TOO!' where he kinda snapped from all the abuse he was taking and in a weird attempt to be self aware he showed art from his comic of times were him or one of his fursonas suffered some stupid injury or punishment in the comic? It was a weird attempt at trying to give himself some sort of humility and awareness to himself, not realising that the acts he was displaying were ridiculous, fictional and would be impossible for a real person to survive anyway so the mesaage of humility was lost?

It made me wonder what if Chris did have more humility and was self aware, what if during the later parts of his trolling Chris took the piss out of himself more, deliberately playing up his stupidity and calling himself a fat idiot and self deprecating himself all the time. Would it have made trolling far more difficult to do if he made fun of his flaws more while still acting stupidly. trolling would have gone very differently and I imagine it would have enraged people like Clyde, Alec and Kacey. You can’t hurt someone’s feelings if their in on the joke? How do you think they would have reacted?

You asked a question like this in "What if", but I will answer it again. If Chris had more humility and took the self-deprecating route, Weens would likely try to out do one another in order to get a reaction out of him that isn't "Lmao I know". This would likely result in the more A-loggy of Weens becoming far more abusive and some of them may perhaps even do some borderline-illegal shit to him.

Classic trolls like Clyde, Alec, Kacey, and Liquid would likely amp up their efforts to push his buttons, but if Chris persists in his direction its likely they would eventually get fed up and quit or take on more of a shitposty direction. In fact, a decent amount of Sagas wouldn't have happened at all as it would likely just end up with the troll getting annoyed at Chris not taking them seriously upon them revealing themselves or trying to shit on him.

Eventually, a decent amount of the Weens would eventually realize that fucking with him was fruitless and they'd either quit or just watch him from the sidelines. But its still likely that Chris would still end up pretty fucked up, as its likely that some of the more A-loggy Weens would've likely tried to SWAT him at some point. This would still result in Chris becoming Paranoid, albeit less so as the Trolling would've likely died down a lot earlier. Chris in 2022 would be a mixture of Modern and Classic Chris, with him being less deluded, but likely far more paranoid about getting fucked over.

TL;DR: A-loggy weens grow far more vitriolic, Classic Trolls quit a lot more earlier, and Chris is still pretty fucked up but less so in our timeline

 

[A-№1]

I used to know someone who divorced a man and married his twin.

I know a man (we'll call him Dave or this is going to get confusing) who divorced his wife (call her Carol) so he could get it on with his step-daughter (call her June). Meanwhile his own son, Carol's step-son (call him Billy), was having an affair with Carol the whole time, and she (Carol) turns out to be pregnant, and Dave doesn't know if it's his son or grandson, because he's been occasionally getting it on with Carol even after their divorce. Then June gets pregnant as well and insists it's Billy's, despite Billy's denials. Lord knows what things they'd get up to with cloning technology.

There are worse things happening than even Chris can imagine, and not just on Jerry Springer. You don't want to know what's doings in your average Fundamentalist Mormon Trailer Park.

Far too many people think with their genitals and not their brains, and that's if they think at all.

I thought they had to let him out after a year? Law is confusing. No wonder you have to go to school for it.

You have to go to school for it and pass the bar exam. That's the important part. It's not like having a masters in intersectional basket weaving where you only have to wait around accruing massive college debts until they give you a diploma. Lawyers have to prove they know their shit (at least to other lawyers).

Because law in theory can be very confusing. Law in practice tends to boil down to what you can get away with so that nobody complains too much. For example, bees are now legally fish in the state of California. That's very confusing, but they're getting away with it (probably because most people are too baffled to complain).

CVRJ legally can't just let Chris out after a year. A few years ago they could have dumped him out onto the streets, but now they have to spend up to thirty days finding a more or less permanent placement for him, starting at the end of his incarceration. So where are they going to keep him housed and fed in the meantime? It's a new law in Virginia, so they may not have any process established for it. If this were New York or Oregon or California etc. they would already have established arrangements with various respite homes and the like, but it's possible Greene County doesn't have any respite homes (yet), much less working agreements with them.

tl;dr: They may not have anywhere to put Chris other than keep him in jail while they look for a placement. Instead of being punitive incarceration, it will be justified as more of a protective custody sort of thing.

It's always been the same basic question for Chris' entire life: What they hell are we going to do with Chris? Only now it's the Jail's / Greene County social services' problem.

But what about weens on wheels? I’m among those who are doubtful about how many of them would actually let Chris stay in their home, but giving him a ride is a different story.

True, there is that problem, but it could end rather badly for the ween in question. I'm too lazy to look up Virginia law, but if Chris ends up under a more or less permanent protective order against returning to Barb or 14BLC, that could make the ween an accessory. @Pointless Sperg or @AnOminous likely know the answer. I suspect Greene County would want to make an example of such a ween. They've been treating Chris with kid gloves. Will they be so kind to assholes who really should know better?

 

[NortonAntiVirus]

1.5 months until the next hearing, will we get another continuance or will we finally get a verdict!! Let's hope they allow weens in this time.

 

[A-№1]

1.5 months until the next hearing, will we get another continuance or will we finally get a verdict!! Let's hope they allow weens in this time.

They're kind of running out of time for continuances.

They might get tired of wasting the kid gloves on Chris and wobble him back up to Big Boy Court. Normally that would look really bad, but it's hard to look worse than Chris.

 

[A Grey Cat]

if Chris ends up under a more or less permanent protective order against returning to Barb or 14BLC

Plot twist, they don't put him under neither because they legally can't let him go out on the streets to be a vagrant but at the same time don't wanna tard wrangle him into a home because he won't stop screeching about Jesus Christ CPU superstar and refusing to work with anyone on getting into a home.

 

[AnOminous]

Because law in theory can be very confusing. Law in practice tends to boil down to what you can get away with so that nobody complains too much. For example, bees are now legally fish in the state of California. That's very confusing, but they're getting away with it (probably because most people are too baffled to complain).

That's pretty much clickbait. They found bees are within the jurisdiction of the Fish & Game Commission, not that they are actually fish. There's some question as to whether that's valid. It's sort of like ketchup as a vegetable, or the differentiation between botanical and culinary "fruits."

There's some question as to whether the court can just rewrite the law to put something that obviously isn't fish into the fish category, or whether endangered species protection was actually intended to encompass other species too. It does smack of legislating from the bench.

True, there is that problem, but it could end rather badly for the ween in question. I'm too lazy to look up Virginia law, but if Chris ends up under a more or less permanent protective order against returning to Barb or 14BLC, that could make the ween an accessory. @Pointless Sperg or @AnOminous likely know the answer. I suspect Greene County would want to make an example of such a ween. They've been treating Chris with kid gloves. Will they be so kind to assholes who really should know better?

There's some question as to that, or at least the time. They can't just smack him with a permanent protective order without a finding of guilt, and they're probably limited to things explicitly authorized by statute. The one over a year I could find was only in cases of family abuse. Simple incest doesn't count.

But in that case, the protective order would be for up to two years, but with renewals possible. So it could be in effect indefinite, but only if Chris is convicted of a qualifying charge and someone (Barb or a representative) kept renewing it.

https://www.vacourts.gov/courts/jdr/resources/manuals/jdrman/chapter08.pdf

And obviously they could actually charge him with a felony or some qualifying charge first.

So far as I know, Chris isn't facing that yet for simple incest, but if he did something goofy like tell them he was immediately going back to 14BC for some sexual healing, I think they'd figure something out.

 

[tony5100]

So whats going to happen to chris's mental state when he is thrown in jail?

 

[Strange Wilderness]

Well, and the Game Stop dude. Though some of the Chris apologists have said it was because Chris was "scared" and not because it was out of any malice.

Well shit I forgot about the GameStop guy. So in total the three people Chris has actually physically harmed were Snyder, the GameStop employee, and his own Mother when he hit her under the influence of the Idea Guys.

His pants pulled down and he was hogtied by a bunch of cops, and carried out like that in front of the entire store.

That was the point his parents finally intervened and told their son not to use the Attraction Sign anymore. Even after that humiliating experience he probably would have still used the Attraction Sign if Borb hadn't told him not to use the sign anymore.

If you're a person of interest in such a crime, you damn well tell the police where you're going, why you're going, and when you'll be back.

Do not make extra work for the police.

That said, Chris isn't much of a flight risk even had he fled. How long could he stay on the run? The boy doesn't exactly blend in with a crowd.

Any fugitive saga would be incredibly short because Chris would give his location away posting on his phone while fleeing to Mexico or someone would spot him at a McDonalds in Georgia and call the cops on him. Plus I think Chris would rather be in jail than on the run. Being on the run can be hard work and difficult and Chris hates work. He'd rather sit in a jail cell daydreaming about cartoon land getting three trays of jailhouse slop served to him than put in the effort to be a free man on the lam.

I wonder if they allow them conjugal visits.

Are you allowed to wack off in jail? If so than Chris has already had many fun romps in the sack with Magi-Chan and Mewtwo on his jail bunk while the guards have had to watch.

So whats going to happen to chris's mental state when he is thrown in jail?

Same as it was on the outside, just now he's also a reborn Jesus Christ in addition to being a video game pony goddess. I'm more interested in his mental state after he gets out of jail and gets it through his head that he's never going back home again, has to live in a group home with rules or he'll end up on the streets, and he will never see his Mother/ sweetheart ever again.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

If Chris had reincarnated (as Hindus believe) what kind of creature would he have become in the new life?

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

If Chris had reincarnated (as Hindus believe) what kind of creature would he have become in the new life?

Unironically a Cow.

 

[TheShortWaveCerealKiller]

Chris has much better hygiene than Bate and was never a pedo.

That we know of.

They're kind of running out of time for continuances.

They might get tired of wasting the kid gloves on Chris and wobble him back up to Big Boy Court. Normally that would look really bad, but it's hard to look worse than Chris.

I feel like at this point they might as well just throw him to the big boy courts. Would it be bad for optics? Ehhh maybe? But they could always spin it as "this HIGH FUNCTIONING autistic person has assaulted, vandalized, resisted arrest, trespassed, and raped, he is too dangerous to be left to his own devices." .

 

[A-№1]

Plot twist, they don't put him under neither because they legally can't let him go out on the streets to be a vagrant but at the same time don't wanna tard wrangle him into a home because he won't stop screeching about Jesus Christ CPU superstar and refusing to work with anyone on getting into a home.

There's still a slim chance he ends up on Cole's doorstep thanks to therapy by Dr. Greyhound (cue Seinfeld music).

That's pretty much clickbait.

It's a very sketchy technicality, but it's still funny.

There's some question as to whether that's valid.

But that's my point: It's what you can get away with without anyone complaining enough to toss it out. Eventually someone's going to point out that bees aren't actually fish, but meanwhile…

It does smack of legislating from the bench.

Among other things, but that's never stopped them before. Just throw it against the wall and see how long it sticks.

They can't just smack him with a permanent protective order without a finding of guilt,

Or an admission of guilt. For example, in a plea deal.

But in that case, the protective order would be for up to two years, but with renewals possible. So it could be in effect indefinite, but only if Chris is convicted of a qualifying charge and someone (Barb or a representative) kept renewing it.

I suspect they'll try for "managed care" instead of a protective order. A protective order implies the state believes Chris is capable of making choices on whether or not to return to 14BLC, and I don't think Virginia believes that at this point. In my experience, which is admittedly not in Virginia, the term of "managed care" can be one to five years, after which the case goes to review with a state advocate for the patient and small medical panel. They decide if the patient is ready to be released or need a few more years of therapy. Most cases are pretty cut and dry, as I suspect Chris' case would be.

The state is probably hoping to keep Chris contained through a few review cycles until Barb dies, or 14BLC is foreclosed, or Chris otherwise stops being a problem (or at least their problem).

And obviously they could actually charge him with a felony or some qualifying charge first.

I'm not saying it will happen, put I would also not be surprised if they wobbled him back up to Big Boy Court for being such a pain in the ass this past year. They court has been bending over backwards to treat Chris with kid gloves, and they may finally just say, "Fuck it!"

I think they'd figure something out.

This whole case has been the court trying to figure something out.

Any fugitive saga would be incredibly short because Chris would give his location away posting on his phone while fleeing to Mexico or someone would spot him at a McDonalds in Georgia and call the cops on him.

He'd have to make it to Sanctuary in Portland where he'd blend in with the crowd.

I see it like a sort of fat, smelly Logans Run but with a dirty plush pony doll instead of Jenny Agutter.

I feel like at this point they might as well just throw him to the big boy courts.

I have a suspicion his stint in hospital finally broke him enough to STFU in court and take the plea deal.

But they could always spin it as "this HIGH FUNCTIONING autistic person has assaulted, vandalized, resisted arrest, trespassed, and raped, he is too dangerous to be left to his own devices." .

Or they could shorten all that to: "Just look at him! Do you want that wandering your streets?"

And, of course, Chris' courtroom behavior clearly hasn't helped him.

 

[AnOminous]

Or an admission of guilt. For example, in a plea deal.

The court still has to believe it, though, and make a formal finding of such.

 

[PsychoNerd054]

If Chris had reincarnated (as Hindus believe) what kind of creature would he have become in the new life?

Ironically, probably a hedgehog, like he envisions himself. They're known for eating shit and eating their family members.

 

[A-№1]

The court still has to believe it, though, and make a formal finding of such.

But what are the odds?

Do you really believe that if Chris says, "I'm guilty. I fucked my own mother," the judge is going to ask him to prove it?

 

[SwanSwanson]

When are we gonna get Chris Chan interrogation tapes? I really feel that is the last and possibly most substantial peice of Chris Chan content we'll be getting.