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[Ophelia]

Its very telling that of all of Chris's "enemies" Snyder is the only one he actually physically harmed, although it sounds like it was more of an accident brought on by Chris's stupidity than actual malice.

The difference is Barb was present and at the wheel.

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

If you had to rank the top 10 or pick 5 Sonichu comics from the original 10 that you thought were the least shit, which would they be and why?

I can't give 5, but my top 3 would be issues 4, 8, and 10 - 4 for being Chris compiling all of his self-pitying yet self-aggrandising crap into one easily-digestible lump, 8 for the sickening and gross Sonichu/Rosechu sex scenes, and 10 for it just being the point where Chris snapped and really started frothing about how dem dang dirty trolls deserved nothing but painful death.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Its very telling that of all of Chris's "enemies" Snyder is the only one he actually physically harmed, although it sounds like it was more of an accident brought on by Chris's stupidity than actual malice.

Well, and the Game Stop dude. Though some of the Chris apologists have said it was because Chris was "scared" and not because it was out of any malice.

Officer Bagget actually slapped handcuffs on Chris and dragged him out of Target pants-less.

His pants pulled down and he was hogtied by a bunch of cops, and carried out like that in front of the entire store.

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

what kind of computer does chris have? iirc during the classic era he had some HP tower, but i doubt he's still using that.

Around 2010 Chris used the family's HP Pavilion. In 2011 he had a hand me down HP laptop with Windows 7. In 2017 he had a gaming laptop, possibly an Asus G74SX, as he liked a Youtube video describing how to upgrade that laptop's RAM. In 2018 he requested help repairing his old Commodore 64.

He has also owned multiple iPhones and iPod Touches, plus an iPad, as of 2020. In 2013 he had two iPhones with separate numbers, one for business and one for personal calls. In 2013 he made a special case for them and was confirmed to have the two phones and case in 2018.

For historical context, remember that the Financhu crisis began in early 2016. So during that time Chris spent an exorbitant amount of money on an expensive laptop plus Steam games for it plus multiple Apple products, along with other toys, all while begging for money to pay for things like food, his mom's mortgage, and court costs.

 

[Hack for crack]

So, if Chris is still in Jail after August 3rd, we can assume he is facing more charges?

 

[Dr. Silvestrechu]

r/ChrisChanSonichu - [NSFW] In 2016 I commissioned a Snoop Dogg medallion from Chris on Etsy that I unfortunately no longer possess. I did however find old photos of it while looking through my Dropbox account, and here they are.

625 votes and 87 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

Anyone see this yet? Triple checked with a search to make sure it hasn't come up yet and didn't find shit, so apologies if I'm being a retard.

Fuckin' dude lost the thing though, jesus christ.

I hate redditors so fucking much, he probably lost it because his wife's bull stole it as further humiliation.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

So essentially when Chris was arrested the police had finished their investigation and had gathered enough evidence that Chris had sex with his mother and had committed the crime of incest either through medical evidence, Barbara's testimony, or the audio recording of Chris talking to Bella.

Yes, they had gathered enough evidence for probable cause, which is not necessarily the same evidence needed to convict.

Probable cause == "A crime probably happened, and this guy probably did it."

Conviction == "We can prove he did it."

The officers who showed up to serve the EPO had been told about the allegations, but didn't witness any potential crime, and most likely nobody told them that they had witnessed a crime. If Barb had shouted out "He raped me!", they might arrest him, depending on how likely they thought it to be true.

An EPO can be issued with "reasonable suspicion". If hundreds of people are calling in with hearsay that a crime has been committed, one would probably have some reasonable suspicion. EPOs don't require much evidence because they're for emergency response (the "E" in EPO). Hundreds of people are saying Chris is raping Barb, boom, 3 day EPO. They are also saying that Barb is mentally incapacitated, extra 3 days tacked on.

The EPO doesn't charge Chris with a crime, and doesn't restrict him in any way other than in relation to Barb. While the EPO is in effect, Chris is free to travel, start a business, run for president, etc. The only other big restriction is that he's not allowed to buy or transport a gun ( § 18.2-308.1:4(A) ).

They then go back and examine what evidence they do have, determine that it constitutes probable cause, and get the warrant issued, then they go and arrest Chris.

Basically there's three stages to the process. Reasonable suspicion, probable cause, and proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Suspicion is when a cop detains you because he thinks you committed a crime. If he can't find probable cause, he has to let you go. If he does find probable cause, he can arrest you. Once you're arrested, they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you committed the crime (i.e. a trial). If they can't, they have to let you go.

At the stage they were at on the 30th, they only had reasonable suspicion. That's enough to issue an EPO but not enough to arrest Chris.

As to what evidence they had to determine probable cause, we don't know. It could have just been the phone call. A nonjudicial confession alone is not enough to convict, but is enough to establish probable cause.

Even if Chris had left the house wearing a fake beard, carrying a duffel bag full of cash, and muttering to himself in mangled Spanish when they served the initial EPO, the cops still wouldn't be able to arrest him then and there?

None of these things are illegal. Though it would certainly raise suspicion and they might decide to review the evidence faster and immediately hit up the magistrate to get a warrant issued. The officer could claim exigent circumstances, but that would be a big stretch.

So let me ask you something. Lets say someone worked in a job that took them all over the place like a pilot or a trucker was a suspect in a murder or something like that, a job where you travel and could sneak off into the night at a moments notice. A literal flight risk in the case of a pilot. What would the police do in a situation like that? Just alert the US Marshals that they are doing an investigation on a certain individual and to be ready to track down a potential fugitive once they had determined probable cause and gotten a warrant? Sounds like they can't tell a guy who flies all over the world to not go to his job because they are trying to figure out if he is a killer.

Correct, although if he flew for an airline they could certainly politely ask the airline to put him on paid leave. Generally the government does not have the power to take away your rights on mere suspicion. An EPO doesn't apply because that's about protecting the rights of the victim, rather than restricting the rights of the person suspected.

Lots of people flee while they're under investigation but before a warrant has been issued.

Its very telling that of all of Chris's "enemies" Snyder is the only one he actually physically harmed, although it sounds like it was more of an accident brought on by Chris's stupidity than actual malice. Mary Lee Walsh expelled him from College and Officer Bagget actually slapped handcuffs on Chris and dragged him out of Target pants-less. For all the "harm" they did to Chris all he did was draw them into his crappy comic, have his self insert beat them up, and shoot an imaginary Curse-Ye-Ha-Me-Ha at them. Snyder did no harm to Chris other than tell him he wasn't welcome in a card and hobby store like so many other local business owners had done before. He didn't throw Chris out of higher education and harm his career path or wrestle him to the ground and toss him in a holding cell, but because he banned Chris from one of the few places he felt somewhat welcomed at, Chris would later run him over with his car.

Snyder didn't get run over because he had banned Chris. Snyder got run over because he was physically trying to stop Chris' car from leaving while Chris was trying to escape before the cops arrived. While it's obviously Chris and Barb's crime, Chris wasn't *targeting* Snyder.

So, if Chris is still in Jail after August 3rd, we can assume he is facing more charges?

It becomes far more likely, but we'd get confirmation for that from Circuit Court posting information online. Otherwise, if Chris stays any longer then it's because he's there voluntarily and they didn't kick him out immediately. They tend to kick people out though because if there's a whiff of them being kept against their will any longer, they can be sued.

 

[A-№1]

the house is worth $200k-$250k

Do you know if that's from a market appraisal or a tax appraisal?

Also, one of the things about 14BLC is how greatly a little elbow grease can raise it's selling potential. Once all the leavings of Chris and Barb are dealt with, it's not a bad little house. A little generic, a little dated, perhaps, but a perfect starter home for a young family.

if Barb dies intestate, but he might not want to have to deal with Chris.

How much would he actually have to deal with Chris, though? You can hire people for things like that.

So: if, let's say, Chris was set ablaze and I had water, I'd drink it.

Time was we said, "I wouldn't piss in his mouth if his stomach was on fire."

They can't order you not to leave town. (Though they sometimes request that you don't.)

And leaving town after being asked not to leave town (without first giving a good reason) is a good way of ensuring they get a warrant.

ProTip: Do not make extra work for the police.

now I know to never say that phrase.

Whatever you're into is your own business.

Even if Chris had left the house wearing a fake beard, carrying a duffel bag full of cash, and muttering to himself in mangled Spanish when they served the initial EPO, the cops still wouldn't be able to arrest him then and there?

Then and there they likely didn't know what the fuck was going on. All they had were a bunch of garbled complaints from the internet. So they dropped a quick EPO to separate the potential criminal and potential victim (they might not have even known for sure which was which at that point) until they could sort things out. A day later they'd sorted things out, and the following day they found Chris at the motel.

Lets say someone worked in a job that took them all over the place like a pilot or a trucker was a suspect in a murder or something like that, a job where you travel and could sneak off into the night at a moments notice.

If you're a person of interest in such a crime, you damn well tell the police where you're going, why you're going, and when you'll be back.

Do not make extra work for the police.

That said, Chris isn't much of a flight risk even had he fled. How long could he stay on the run? The boy doesn't exactly blend in with a crowd.

The difference is Barb was present and at the wheel.

I thought they both took a turn.

They tend to kick people out though because if there's a whiff of them being kept against their will any longer, they can be sued.

Except they are required, by law, to spend at least 30 days looking for somewhere to put people like Chris after release. They might use that as a justification for keeping him longer. Of course it would then look really bad if they don't find anywhere to put him in those 30 extra days.

 

[Ophelia]

I thought they both took a turn.

Indeed they did. I wish there was video. I’d even settle for a reenactment. My point was, one of the reasons Chris actually attacked Snyder and not his other enemies was Barb was present.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

Otherwise, if Chris stays any longer then it's because he's there voluntarily and they didn't kick him out immediately.

How does that work? I’ve never heard of someone voluntarily remaining incarcerated, I’m not saying I don’t believe you but it seems quite odd they’d be an option like that.

In Chris’s case might a potential situation like that be so they can get enough time to properly set up his 30 day release plan if they’re having trouble finding somewhere?

Not that it would probably matter since if there’s no kind of restraining order Chris will be straight back to his old home ASAP and even if there is something like that I can’t imagine he wants to spend a day longer than necessary locked up no matter how much it would benefit him.

 

[Cloaca Rimjob]

Hows Chris' marriage to Magi-Chan and Mewto coming along?

 

[MisterPissMan]

Hows Chris' marriage to Magi-Chan and Mewto coming along?

I wonder if they allow them conjugal visits.

 

[Cloaca Rimjob]

I wonder if they allow them conjugal visits.

They could use their psychic powers to wank him off behind the plexiglass

 

[Clostridium Botulinum]

This will literally be Chris if he's not put in a home.

 

[Rupin]

What's the difference between Chris and Nick Bate?

Chris has much better hygiene than Bate and was never a pedo.

 

[FightenGnome]

I was reading the CWCKI the other day and came to a strange realization about the Sonichu I didn't think of before. Black Sonichu is a clone of Sonichu, albeit darker, but still a clone. Bubbles is dating him, and Bubbles is Rosechu's best friend who is dating the original Sonichu.

Isn't that a bit weird for all parties involved? Like say someone cloned your boyfriend/girlfriend and after meeting them your best friend almost immediately started to hook up with them. Wouldn't that leave you with some questions?

 

[Pointless Sperg]

That said, Chris isn't much of a flight risk even had he fled. How long could he stay on the run? The boy doesn't exactly blend in with a crowd.

Good luck catching him if he makes it to CWCville.

 

[A-№1]

My point was, one of the reasons Chris actually attacked Snyder and not his other enemies was Barb was present.

Meanwhile, one of the reasons the incest trial is dragging on for a year is Barb isn't present. She's not there to tell Chris to take the plea deal like she did the last few times.

How does that work? I’ve never heard of someone voluntarily remaining incarcerated, I’m not saying I don’t believe you but it seems quite odd they’d be an option like that.

Staying in jail over the winter is an old hobo trick.

The thing is, they have to do something with him. Keeping him in jail is a possibility, but it largely depends on what other options they have available for housing him. I don't know what all is available in the Charlottesville area. They could also put him up in a fleabag hotel for a few weeks while they sort things out, or a short term respite house. They might even consider those good enough to satisfy their legal obligations. At that point Chris becomes Social Service's problem, not the jail's.

If they don't put him somewhere contained, he will waddle back to 14BLC and cause more trouble. They have to be aware of that.

Like say someone cloned your boyfriend/girlfriend and after meeting them your best friend almost immediately started to hook up with them.

I would like to say human relationships make more sense, but they don't. Not always. The only think keeping this from happening IRL is the lack of cloning technology.

Good luck catching him if he makes it to CWCville.

He never left.

 

[Rupin]

Good luck catching him if he makes it to CWCville.

Me and Mewtwo already have it covered. Fuck Magichan. He’s going to need more… convincing.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

If they don't put him somewhere contained, he will waddle back to 14BLC and cause more trouble. They have to be aware of that.

He'll waddle on back regardless, once he finds out that he's not required to stay wherever they put him. That and doesn't the law say something about 30 days being the max?