Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

What's the status on the violation of the protective order for taking that money from Barbs account? IIRC that was never charged (could be wrong though) they might be able to hang charges on that over his head as well.

That's a *remote* possibility, but we have no idea about the status. It's usually punished relatively lightly on a first offense though. The third offense gets particularly nasty punishment though, with a mandatory minimum of 6 months that must be served consecutively.

As far as we know, Chris had only one potential violation, but it's unclear if accessing Barb's account would really count as a violation, despite what Null said. I'm unconvinced that you could even construe it as "indirect contact". I was hesitant to include it in the FAQ.

There are financial restraining orders that explicitly prevent this (to stop say, a boyfriend from emptying a joint bank account out of revenge), but it's a separate thing.

I don't know how this figures into an EPO in Virginia, or if it automatically counts as a financial restraining order.
 
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I'm a firm believer that Barb's in some sort of home or managed care living situation. Harriet and Uncle Tom are both pretty old as is, and their house is pretty small. Barb would only get a tiny guest room according to Zillow's tour. Virginia has a half decent placement service for elderly people who have been victims and I imagine getting raped by Chris Chan would get you on that list pretty easily. As dependent as she was with Chris, being in a home would be an enormous blessing. She can demand all she wants and unless really ornery, will get waited on 24/7. Even if her pet tard came home, fresh out of the clink, hepped up on Jesus, I doubt Barb would choose that over a home or something similar.
Maybe someone with Virginia low-income knowledge can answer, but is there options for subsidized elderly care home placement in Virginia?

I wrote off care home as an option in my head because in my personal experience, care home fees can be exceptionally expensive, and I don't know where Tom and Harriet are getting the money from her to pay for it (and pay the taxes on 14BC). Was all the finachu crisis stuff bullshit and Borb had actually secretly tucked away a good amount?
 
Was all the finachu crisis stuff bullshit and Borb had actually secretly tucked away a good amount?
That part is definitely real, Barb got sued multiple times for outstanding debts. Bob did have some money saved up before he died, but Chris and Barb splurged it all on an expensive lawyer, only to plead guilty anyway.
 
Chris delivered to Cole’s stoop in a large wicker basket wearing a baby bonnet and a onesie.
Chris does remind me of Baby Huey. They share some similarities, but Huey is more likeable.
 

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Chris delivered to Cole’s stoop in a large wicker basket wearing a baby bonnet and a onesie.

We stuck Who Framed Rodger Rabbit on the projector today in the workshop, and I can't now unsee the baby as Chris.

I'm a firm believer that Barb's in some sort of home or managed care living situation. Harriet and Uncle Tom are both pretty old as is, and their house is pretty small. Barb would only get a tiny guest room according to Zillow's tour. Virginia has a half decent placement service for elderly people who have been victims and I imagine getting raped by Chris Chan would get you on that list pretty easily. As dependent as she was with Chris, being in a home would be an enormous blessing. She can demand all she wants and unless really ornery, will get waited on 24/7. Even if her pet tard came home, fresh out of the clink, hepped up on Jesus, I doubt Barb would choose that over a home or something similar.

Eh i doubt it, or if she is it's a day facility and she either goes home to 14BLC or to her sisters of a evening, and early morning. I am solidly of the opnion Barbs are Sun Downer i.e. she gets worse as the day goes on and she might have hammed up "Old Dear" at some points but she is in a age related cognitive decline I've seen it in my extended family where my Aunt and Uncle arranged there wedding so they could do it as early as they legally could so my uncles father could be there as after lunch he was a little forgetful and after 3 he was downright bonkers - poor fucker has dementia and lives in the same area he grew up in 80 years ago and walked into a shop that used to be a butchers and asked for some bacon because his dad was hungry that's now a hair dressers the owner luckilly knows him and now just says "No problem jim just sit there and I'll sort it for you" and calls his wife or my uncle to come pick him up, but as time goes on he's less there and the times that he is there he's living in the past he got really upset the other week about being late for school and he started as a sundowner.

So basically imagine that Chris was never convicted of anything, *that* stuff can be enforced. If Barb can request a protective order, or the government allows someone to be her guardian (basically stripping away all of her self-determination, so they have complete control over her life like she was a small child), then they can add a protective order on her behalf.

The legal system can be really fucking stupid and unintentionally cruel at times, Chris on his best day's isnt fit to care for himself let alone another humanbeing, and Barbs just not there most of the time anymore so the worst thing they could do for either of them is trying to be kind and letting him off lightly like they seem to be doing.

They are required to assign him a social worker, but Chris can't be compelled to see them. They can give him housing but he can just walk out of it. They can't throw Chris back in jail just for exercising his rights. He's done his time, so all they can do is give him a fine.

I'm at the point of saying should Chris even have the right to self determination at this point? I don't say it lightly or in jest but Chris is really in need of a competent person to handle his day to day life. I know people say well he isn't starving and can drive etc but he's not eating well, he's able to drive but in America that doesn't mean much, he's not able to care for himself or struggles to at a base level.

If he commits a crime again, they can of course send him to jail on new charges.

He will and he will likely ramp up frequent flyer miles in the court, the punishment and the boon for Chris is the Tard Card - I was sure that this current mess would have made the system try and do something but he looks like he's getting off lightly again (without tard card in play books would be thrown at Chris) - He needs a dose of reality or in his parlance a Commupance to realise that he's not devine and can and will recive punishment for his actions. He's not had that in 20+ years at this point.

A good example is, you know that if you drive 45 in a 30 zone you do so at your own risk if you get caught you can get a fine or even lose your licence for a period of time, Chris will follow the law when there is a punishment he can understand that has a direct effect on him i..e fine = less lego but he will still think drving 45 in a 30 is justified as he was really hungry and needed food from McDonnalds.

It depends on what they found in the wellness check and if Barb is willing to throw Chris under the bus. They could just be keeping Chris in jail on probable cause rather than intending to convict him (remember, Chris' admissions alone are only probable cause, but not enough for conviction). Maybe they have a little bit of evidence but aren't 100% confident that it will stand up in trial.

What's the status on the violation of the protective order for taking that money from Barbs account? IIRC that was never charged (could be wrong though) they might be able to hang charges on that over his head as well.


I'm not a Yank but I do know that violating those things is serious, I am guessing they found enough to warrent booting him out the house i.e. the elderly sex book maybe some used condoms and other sexual paraphernalia but violating the EPO is what was enough for them to slap the bracelets on him.

Correct me if I am wrong but in the US or Virginia specifical view a Breach of a NCO as a automatic sentence, I can recall something from years back where a woman took one out against a ex and moved just outside the guys new location and tried multiple times to have him arrested but it was tossed out as "happenstance" i.e. he was in the same shop and she walked in, he was at a bar and she walked in, he posted a singles ad and she saw it etc. Or is it the sort of thing that falls under Clapham omnibus rules and the jude is supposed to use his common sense, so if there is a shared bank account and chris used money from it as normal behaviour would that constitue a breach of the protective order.

That part is definitely real, Barb got sued multiple times for outstanding debts. Bob did have some money saved up before he died, but Chris and Barb splurged it all on an expensive lawyer, only to plead guilty anyway.

Yea Barb blew through the cash she had on hand with Rob Bell for all the fat luck it did her, she spent it for herself in that regard as she didn't want a criminal record Chris just got represented as a side benefit to his service, She herself get's a rather nice pension and a portion of Bob's as well until she dies.

I think Barb does care about Chris, but only while she has to if she can isolate herself from him i.e. toss him some toys and ignore him while he plays she will do so, and she will spend her money how she see's fit and she does that buy accumulating "Stuff" as she is very much part of the generation that though "More Stuff = Beter life" in her more altruistic moments she may say to herself "Well at least Christian has all this stuff he will always find something valuable" when the most valuable thing she has are already snatched from under his feet in the form of secure housing and possibly building a nest egg to make sure that he has the basics coverd for a while.
 
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Maybe someone with Virginia low-income knowledge can answer, but is there options for subsidized elderly care home placement in Virginia?

Virginia doesn't subsidize it, but Medicaid will subsidize a nursing home, but they will take almost all of your income (pension, social security, etc) in the process.

You must be decrepit enough to need a nursing home though. They will not help with assisted living/retirement homes. Barb either probably is, or could at least feign being decrepit enough.
 
I often think it would a good thing if Chris attends conventions post jail. When people pose with him in video form, they can say "How was it like to rape your mom?" Chris would probably be so overwhelmed, he'll run away crying from the venue.
Assuming the court is still feeling sympathy for him, enough to go lenient with him and nog slap him with sor registration. Them again sor or not I'm sure Amy conventions Chris plans on attending will be swarmed with ween calls/emails/tweets that they'll blacklist him just in the hopes it'll make it stop.
 
Assuming the court is still feeling sympathy for him, enough to go lenient with him and nog slap him with sor registration. Them again sor or not I'm sure Amy conventions Chris plans on attending will be swarmed with ween calls/emails/tweets that they'll blacklist him just in the hopes it'll make it stop.
No convention will ever allow him in ever again. Unless it's some incest advocacy group.
 
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Virginia doesn't subsidize it, but Medicaid will subsidize a nursing home, but they will take almost all of your income (pension, social security, etc) in the process.

You must be decrepit enough to need a nursing home though. They will not help with assisted living/retirement homes. Barb either probably is, or could at least feign being decrepit enough.
https://www.vda.virginia.gov/index.htm
There also seems to be a lot of county organizations for helping poor elderly people.
 
No convention will ever allow him in ever again. Unless it's some incest advocacy group.
Maybe either an adult only furry convention where standards are rock bottom and those running it approve of sexual deviancy such as incest or a super normie comic event where the organisers are in their 50s and have no idea who Chris is (And he somehow doesn’t alert weens that he’s attending)?

Brony cons will be particularly difficult to attend for Chris I imagine since autistic a-logs never forgive and forget and I bet even before this we’re looking for an excuse to ban him.
 
Call me optimistic but my money's on him going straight from the clink to 14blc, and Barbie Chan going to an assisted living facility.

It's possible but the stars would have to align for it to work. Somebody would have to be the payee of the tugboat because Chris would immediately mismanage it and the house would get foreclosed on.

And Barb would absolutely have to be on board with this and not have anyone else running her affairs.
 
Not directed at any one comment in particular, but people bring up the “tard card” pretty often as it relates to Chris’s current legal troubles; because of the nature of the crime, I don’t think the tard card is relevant here, almost by definition. Chris’s crime is something that only someone who’s head is totally fucked would do. If this was a charge for shoplifting LEGOs , it would make more sense because normally functioning people steal things too. I just personally measure leniency relative to the typical criminal tried and charged for the same thing
 
the elderly sex book maybe some used condoms and other sexual paraphernalia.

Doesn't prove anything beyond Chris being a sex pest who can't get any action bit desperatly wants it. Unless they found barb lying disheveled in a pile of filth and garbage, and leaking tard tapioca from both rancid ends the only thing they would have gotten them removed from the house over, was because of what a filthy hell hole it was.

Not just tired. Angry. And not just Republicans. All you kids who are paying into Social Security right now will NEVER receive any benefits from it. Chris is why.
Why do I even bother working /paying my taxes if lazy worthless retards get all the money taken from my paycheck to blow on video games and hentai?
 
Haven’t seen this posted and did a quick search of the forum for his name and got nothing, but here’s indie rapper Danny Brown on Tom Segura’s podcast talking about how he owns every sonichu comic and collects the figurines and wants to be involved when if/when Netflix makes a Chris Chan documentary
If the start time doesn’t work it’s around 54:15
 
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