Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[notausername]

No. As abnormal as it is for the rest of us, Chris is used to his life and he sees it as normal. He's too old to change his ways. If anything he'll get worse (especially after his mother dies).

 

[JULAY]

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Listen Hitler, I'm tired of your white knighting.

 

[BurningPewter]

Chris in recent years has been on a downward spiral. With Bob's death, and his mothers failing health he's standing on very unstable ground. His mental health has possibly been deteriorating, and his financial status is worse than ever, only barely managing to get by with a mixture of the monthly tugboat, Barbara's dwindling pension, and various sources of income from the internet.

With all of that in mind, could he get better?

Do you see any possible timeline in which Chris would be able to normalize himself, and live a better, more responsible life?

I think the biggest obstacle to this is that people have been enabling him for years, whether it be white knights or the LGBT community. But if he were to get institutionalized, given the proper counseling, could he perhaps live a humble life with some exceptional individual-friendly job like at a factory, or as a WallMart greeter?

Not trying to be mean to you friend, but we've had this conversation many, many times before here.

hey I've been thinking if the long-awaited CWC film comes - what if it's a trilogy ?

film 1 - childhood - CWC played by Lena Dunham (using her high voice and short hair to portray a boy)

film 2 - classic era - CWC is Jonah Hill

film 3 - the decline - John C Reilly

Also what if nintendo and sega refused to allow mention of the Sonichu name in the film? Should they change to some original dumb name like Mega-Rat or something? (and make it so fictional games are popular in the film's world)

 

[Keilbasa Kosciuszko]

I haven't been to the forums in a long time, so I forgot the rules and mistakenly made this into its own thread at first.

In any case, though I've largely left the Chris chan saga behind (I was unemployed and it was depressing the fuck out of me) I found this article today and wondered if anyone has ever discussed limerance. There's apparently a certain profile for people who tend to get obsessive crushes (limerance) and Chris fits it pretty well:

from https://blogjob.com/lifeinlimerence/2015/10/14/what-causes-limerence/:

There are a few characteristics that seem to come up more often than others. Having one or more of these characteristics may mean you are more prone to limerence, but it is not a for sure thing. Likewise, not having any of these does not mean you will not experience it.

General Characteristics

• Introvert
• Unstable/Dysfunctional Early Family Life
• Depression
• Personality Disorder
• Creative
• Active Imagination
• Low Self-Esteem

These are just a few qualities that seem to be brought up often among limerence sufferers

Knowing what might cause a person to be more prone to limerence gives us some insight into what causes limerence to develop. Despite the person a limerent is interested in being called the limerent “object”, the limerence itself has little to nothing to do with that person.

A limerent person craves validation. This is why the episode is not about the LO. No matter how much we want it, validation has to come from within ourselves. For the majority of people, that is a constant life struggle. It’s one of the reasons limerence affects so many. It would be so much easier if this person who walked into our lives could just say, “Hey. You’re awesome. In fact, you are so awesome that we should be together,” and magically your life is better.


That is not how life works.

The desire for that self-validation can be seen in the LOs we choose. LOs are usually self-confident, vibrant people. They are successful in life. They are comfortable with themselves.

It is my belief that this is when these types of people give us personal attention that is when limerence starts to take seed. The things that we wish about ourselves is right there in front of us in that person, that person who {gasp} perhaps even likes us. Could it be?

I won’t go too much into how we view the LOs since that will be a different article, but suffice it to say we put them on a pedestal at a height that they could never truly reach.

Even people who aren’t in limerence can be struggling for validation, in their job, their marriage, as a parent, as a human. Limerence is merely one form of dealing with that.

What you need to do is find out how you will deal with your limerence. Some people just live with it. Some struggle to get out of it. Some actually seem to enjoy it (though this is usually only in the beginning). Still others choose to focus on themselves and make themselves emotionally stronger so they do not need their LO. None of these options are wrong or right. Whatever helps you through is what you need to do. Do what feel right for you and makes you feel better regarding the situation.

The therapeutic community is ignorant to limerence, 99% have never heard of it and most just write it off as a crush. LIMERENCE IS NOT A CRUSH. Until there is a wider acceptance of the impact and number of people that are impacted, little progress will be made.

 

[Flareon]

could he get better?

You must be new here

 

[Mister Hitler]

I guess all there's left is to watch the oncoming train wreck and hope for an entertaining show.

 

[Guy Smiley]

Also what if nintendo and sega refused to allow mention of the Sonichu name in the film? Should they change to some original dumb name like Mega-Rat or something? (and make it so fictional games are popular in the film's world)

I am not a lawyer, but I don't think the name "Sonichu" would be the problem. It's just a mishmash of sounds. Like, if I combined Voltron and Transformers into Voltformers, I don't think anyone would care about the name itself. The bigger issue would be if Sonic or Pikachu actually APPEARED in the film. (This is also one of the problems with Sonichu itself - copyrighted characters such as Sonic or Robotnik or Pikachu actually appear in the comic.) That, I am sure, is something Nintendo and Sega would not approve of. The filmmakers could probably get away with one line saying, "This character is a cross between Sonic and Pikachu," but that would be about it.

Leading on from that, the actual problem might be the appearance of Sonichu himself, since he's basically a yellow Sonic with a Pikachu tail. Solution? Never show Sonichu.

Let's face it: Sonichu itself is probably the least interesting thing about Chris anyway. It's how the internet found him, but the man is way more interesting than the myth. If I were going to make a "Disaster Artist" style film about Chris, I would show him WORKING on Sonichu, and maybe even talking about it to people, (in a way that doesn't involve any of the copyrighted characters,) but I would leave it there and focus more on Chris' life and how it was affected by his upbringing and the influence of his internet infamy. If I really wanted to include a Sonichu element, I'd maybe play up the fact that he believes the characters are real and can communicate with him, BUT NEVER SHOW THEM. All the audience would see is Chris talking to and listening to thin air. Maybe include the moment where he was in Mary Lee Walsh's office and he started talking to Sonichu in front of her.

Then, if I really, REALLY wanted a feel-good ending like Disaster Artist, I'd probably end it after his big happy moment at the recent con panel, but maybe slip in something at the very end to suggest that maybe Chris really is talking to someone. I'd leave it as open ended as possible, though.

That's what I'd do, at least, but I'm also not a filmmaker.

 

[Dread First]

Here's a random thought: If you were in Charlottesville and saw Chris at a bar, would you try striking up conversation with him?

I'd go ahead and try, but if he reeks of rotting watermelons masked with perfume (or Axe if he still uses that) I'd probably try to leave early.

 

[BurningPewter]

I am not a lawyer, but I don't think the name "Sonichu" would be the problem. It's just a mishmash of sounds. Like, if I combined Voltron and Transformers into Voltformers, I don't think anyone would care about the name itself. The bigger issue would be if Sonic or Pikachu actually APPEARED in the film. (This is also one of the problems with Sonichu itself - copyrighted characters such as Sonic or Robotnik or Pikachu actually appear in the comic.) That, I am sure, is something Nintendo and Sega would not approve of. The filmmakers could probably get away with one line saying, "This character is a cross between Sonic and Pikachu," but that would be about it.

Leading on from that, the actual problem might be the appearance of Sonichu himself, since he's basically a yellow Sonic with a Pikachu tail. Solution? Never show Sonichu.

Let's face it: Sonichu itself is probably the least interesting thing about Chris anyway. It's how the internet found him, but the man is way more interesting than the myth. If I were going to make a "Disaster Artist" style film about Chris, I would show him WORKING on Sonichu, and maybe even talking about it to people, (in a way that doesn't involve any of the copyrighted characters,) but I would leave it there and focus more on Chris' life and how it was affected by his upbringing and the influence of his internet infamy. If I really wanted to include a Sonichu element, I'd maybe play up the fact that he believes the characters are real and can communicate with him, BUT NEVER SHOW THEM. All the audience would see is Chris talking to and listening to thin air. Maybe include the moment where he was in Mary Lee Walsh's office and he started talking to Sonichu in front of her.

Then, if I really, REALLY wanted a feel-good ending like Disaster Artist, I'd probably end it after his big happy moment at the recent con panel, but maybe slip in something at the very end to suggest that maybe Chris really is talking to someone. I'd leave it as open ended as possible, though.

That's what I'd do, at least, but I'm also not a filmmaker.

In my idea for a quirky "napoleon dynamite" type CWC film, the fake job invitation by Nintendo's Myamoto would be the centre scene of the film, and the poster would show an iconic image of Chris, Bob and Barb in smart suits and Mario hats, waiting at the airport. (not the literal truth but to convey the silliness). I guess for my idea Mario/Nintendo would have to be replaced by some substitute.

My movie would show an animated Sonichu (that only he could see) regularly showing up to help Chris with his problems in fantasy scenarios, bringing the comic to life. Like a cross between the demon in Death Note, Calvin and Hobbes, and the parts of the American Splendor film where the comic panels appear over his head.

I think any filmmaker would have to come up with a substitute image for Sonichu because what about the medallion?

I was just thinking of establishing that in the film's universe the world's biggest games company is called Banzai-do or something, and their mascot is super-rat or something, and they also make a popular card game about magic animals, and Chris is torn between love for the two until he combines their two mascots into something called rat-chib or something.

 

[OrsonZedd]

I don't know what you mean by get better, Hitler. If you mean becoming independently functional, probably not. If you mean finding inner peace, I think most people do that who don't end up killing themselves, so a solid maybe there.

 

[Trilby]

I am not a lawyer, but I don't think the name "Sonichu" would be the problem. It's just a mishmash of sounds. Like, if I combined Voltron and Transformers into Voltformers, I don't think anyone would care about the name itself. The bigger issue would be if Sonic or Pikachu actually APPEARED in the film. (This is also one of the problems with Sonichu itself - copyrighted characters such as Sonic or Robotnik or Pikachu actually appear in the comic.) That, I am sure, is something Nintendo and Sega would not approve of. The filmmakers could probably get away with one line saying, "This character is a cross between Sonic and Pikachu," but that would be about it.

Leading on from that, the actual problem might be the appearance of Sonichu himself, since he's basically a yellow Sonic with a Pikachu tail. Solution? Never show Sonichu.

Exactly. Of course, had Sonichu's world been it's own thing than simply combining Pokemon and Sonic IP's together, none of this would be a problem if Sonichu was really just about these hedgehogs that just happen to be powerful all their own without some twisted backstory behind it.

Let's face it: Sonichu itself is probably the least interesting thing about Chris anyway. It's how the internet found him, but the man is way more interesting than the myth. If I were going to make a "Disaster Artist" style film about Chris, I would show him WORKING on Sonichu, and maybe even talking about it to people, (in a way that doesn't involve any of the copyrighted characters,) but I would leave it there and focus more on Chris' life and how it was affected by his upbringing and the influence of his internet infamy. If I really wanted to include a Sonichu element, I'd maybe play up the fact that he believes the characters are real and can communicate with him, BUT NEVER SHOW THEM. All the audience would see is Chris talking to and listening to thin air. Maybe include the moment where he was in Mary Lee Walsh's office and he started talking to Sonichu in front of her.

Now that would make for an interesting film right there.

Then, if I really, REALLY wanted a feel-good ending like Disaster Artist, I'd probably end it after his big happy moment at the recent con panel, but maybe slip in something at the very end to suggest that maybe Chris really is talking to someone. I'd leave it as open ended as possible, though.

That's what I'd do, at least, but I'm also not a filmmaker.

You got some good ideas here.

 

[Xanax]

herp derp doodly doot is chris getting better

837 pages in and we still have people asking if Chris could integrate into normal society.

Here's a random thought: If you were in Charlottesville and saw Chris at a bar, would you try striking up conversation with him?

I'd go ahead and try, but if he reeks of rotting watermelons masked with perfume (or Axe if he still uses that) I'd probably try to leave early.

I'd creep up behind him saying "you goddamned womanizing raping trollin' stupid..." getting progressively louder, until he notices me and turns round, and then I'd yell "NIGGER" and give him a titty-twister.

 

[Guy Smiley]

Here's a random thought: If you were in Charlottesville and saw Chris at a bar, would you try striking up conversation with him?

No. There is no reason to engage Chris directly. It would probably just irritate me, and it probably wouldn't provide any new content here.

 

[BurningPewter]

anyone else get the feeling that Chris isn't ever again going to do anything funny? It felt like the Quinn breakup and the MagFest were the "end of the story" somehow. Like Quinn was like a Godfather 3 type "one last attempt to trust an internet lady" and ofc magfest was the triumphant end credits.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

I guess people are right when they claim Chris is "Boring" now. To me though, it doesn't change the fact that the last 9 years for him has happened, and more than half of that, including his resurgence in 2015, was pretty memorable.

Its just that Chris seems tired now, and is realizing things are going to change big time soon.

Barb is not going to last forever. Rate this post optimistic all you want.

This is why Chris mellowed out, started going to conventions more, and insisted on trying to make friends with girls using terms like darling and creepy blushing emoticons. He's getting really desperate for happy, memorable times because he knows its soon going to all end for him.

If he wants to survive without Barb, he's going to have to grow up. And he wants to do everything he can to out-child himself before that happens.

Buy Pokemon Cards he never had.
Be incredibly defensive about the alternate universe Sonichu lives in (I think when Barb dies, he's gonna give up on the "Cartoon world" fantasy)
Listen to binaural beats, learning to open the Third Eye, astral projection, etc.

He's become so mellow and quieter because of how desperate he is to craft what life he always wanted.

I kinda think he really has become the Christine he wanted to be. False falsetto aside. Medical technology is going to continue to grow.

But when Barb dies, all of it is going to end. No more Legos, no more video games, no more Pokemon Cards, no more Toys R Us. The only thing he will still have is MLP since that shit just can't seem to ever go away.

 

[AnOminous]

anyone else get the feeling that Chris isn't ever again going to do anything funny? It felt like the Quinn breakup and the MagFest were the "end of the story" somehow. Like Quinn was like a Godfather 3 type "one last attempt to trust an internet lady" and ofc magfest was the triumphant end credits.

It's going to get even less funny when Barb dies.

His forays out into public are fun, though. It's amusing to see how he acts interacting with people who are glad to see him in a "Hey it's that guy" kind of way and aren't maliciously fucking with him. He'll probably make another appearance at Bronycon.

That Quinn shit was, also like Godfather 3, the shittiest "saga" in the series. It not only interrupted more amusing shit, it ended with a wet fart of ween failure.

 

[Drawets Rednaxela]

Medical technology is going to continue to grow.

Not that Chris will ever be able to access it as he will never not be poor.

 

[BurningPewter]

so some pics for the fantasy film casting -

Sonic Sweepstakes childhood flashback - Lena Dunham

Spoiler

Classic era - Jonah Hill

Spoiler

current/trans era - Jon C Reilly

Spoiler

 

[Xanax]

What's everyone's least favourite Chris video? Hard mode: no paid requests or Idea Guy stuff. Has to be Classic Chris.

 

[CWCissey]

What's everyone's least favourite Chris video? Hard mode: no paid requests or Idea Guy stuff. Has to be Classic Chris.

Cake Farts.