Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Cluster🅱️uck]

Did Chris's "Young Warrior" forced meme campaign ever have any success?

Would it be cheesy to follow his genie's-loophole-proof directions to welcome him back when he resurfaces?

 

[GypsyBard]

Damn. Forced to get a job in your early 40s, with your past experience being in the early 2000s with a huge gap, with no skills (no, the CADD doesn't count; it is irrelevant at this point). with horrible social skills. Chris will be lucky if he gets a job sorting glass. Even he has to talk to some people (without bringing up da merge) every once in a while in that job.

This is what happens when one mainstreams a tard and not hammering home the importance of saving money, and not sexually molesting one's mom.

Factory worker here
Factories have no problem hiring people like Chris to do repetitive tasks
He could easily get a job at a factory in a packing department even with no real job history
Even with the background check he will still be easily hired
Lucky for him gateway most likely will have a program for job placement
"But why would a factory or packing plant hire a guy like Chris" I hear you ask
If you hire through these programs your business gets tax benefits. Plus the higher ups that hire him won't have to deal with him so it's kinda out of sight out of mind

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

[Uli] was working Walmart for a while, but during the coof, he was upset by either seeing masks on other people or wearing them himself, and got fired for not complying with some mask bullshit. I think they probably were liable for failing to make reasonable accommodations considering his multiple mental conditions, but he didn't sue (he should have).

I thought he just quit, he wasn't fired. I'm not sure though, he wasn't publicly documenting his life so much anymore at the time.
If he sued Wal-mart, he would probably have to deal with masked lawyers, and he became very agoraphobic. Maybe a lot of stuff could be done over Zoom though.

 

[Little Pigboy]

If you hire through these programs your business gets tax benefits. Plus the higher ups that hire him won't have to deal with him so it's kinda out of sight out of mind

Same mentality for hiring all the damn muslims from Somalia who need to go piss/pray every fucking thirty minutes, but you can't firing them for blowing off their work because it'll cause a shit show. If Nigger Gaza can keep his job while stinking like colonge/body=odor and flirting with every woman he meets. then a dumbass like Chris will be fine in a warehouse. They'll give him a job making boxes or collecting trash and he'll just piss off a lot of his coworkers everytime they see him sitting on his ass on a stack of pallets while playing on his phone, knowing nobody will say anything because Chris will claim they're just hating on him for being a tranny or being autistic.

Just let him be homeless for awhile, someone will come along and let him sleep on their couch if he sucks their dick and lets them plunder his medallion hole.

 

[D is for Stupid]

I thought he just quit, he wasn't fired.

Chris has never "quit" anything. Abandoning projects, yes many times. But never "quit"

He'll work and get lazy and sloppy all the while he's stress sighing and saying he's working on it. Once he's fired he'll blame them for doing things and treating him wrong.

Chris is always the victim.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Factory worker here
Factories have no problem hiring people like Chris to do repetitive tasks
He could easily get a job at a factory in a packing department even with no real job history
Even with the background check he will still be easily hired
Lucky for him gateway most likely will have a program for job placement
"But why would a factory or packing plant hire a guy like Chris" I hear you ask
If you hire through these programs your business gets tax benefits. Plus the higher ups that hire him won't have to deal with him so it's kinda out of sight out of mind

That being the case, I'm hoping Chris would stay on task and not be a distraction. But given he thinks of himself too highly for work like that, and he's already got used to the tugboat, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Like I said before, even if Chris was given a job today and started working, it wouldn't take long for him to get into spats with the manajerk.

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

I was curious about whether Gateway homes has some maximum length of stay. They are a potential place that Chris may have been sent after jail. A letter from Gateway was involved in the court proceedings. They have added the following message to their webpages about their locations and eligibility, and have removed links to the application form.

Thank you for your interest in Gateway! Unfortunately, we have a pause on all community admissions due to an extensively long waitlist. We are sorry we are not able offer our services to prospective clients at this time.

So when did Gateway stop taking applications? I have reviewed Archive.org and none of the most recently archived pages have this message, but they are all too old. I'm sure we would have discussed the waitlist message around the time of Chris's release, so I think the message was added quite recently. Google's cached version of one page shows it was there on April 8. This is the oldest cached page they have, and it is 12 days after Chris was released by court order.

If Chris was admitted to Gateway, he may have been on the waitlist for a long time and would have been one of the last people accepted before they stopped taking applications. This could explain the long wait in jail after the transfer from the mental hospital, as well as the continuances after letters from DBHDS and Allyson K. Tysinger.

Wednesday April 26 will mark 30 days post release. According to Pointless Sperg's now outdated FAQ:

A new statute in Virginia, § 53.1-68(C), ironically authored by Chris' former attorney Rob Bell, requires that mentally ill inmates have a discharge plan provided that ensures they receive ongoing care and services. The state is only responsible for this for up to 30 days, but it must be something that is planned to be ongoing.

Here is one of Gateway's requirements:

Determined to be disabled by the Social Security Administration and meet the Virginia Department of Medicaid’s resource and income requirements.​

April 26 is important because Chris has a garnishment hearing scheduled for that day. Basically he owes Bank of America money and hasn't been paying his debt.

I wonder whether the issue of funding Chris's ongoing mental health bills will be discussed at this hearing. Maybe BoA won't be able to garnish Chris's income while it's being used to pay for the looney bin's fees. If this is the case, the tugboat is sailing again.

tl;dr: Chris has a garnishment hearing 30 days after he was released.

 

[King Kiwi]

was curious about whether Gateway homes has some maximum length of stay. They are a potential place that Chris may have been sent after jail. A letter from Gateway was involved in the court proceedings. They have added the following message to their webpages about their locations and eligibility, and have removed links to the application form.
So when did Gateway stop taking applications? I have reviewed Archive.org and none of the most recently archived pages have this message, but they are all too old. I'm sure we would have discussed the waitlist message around the time of Chris's release, so I think the message was added quite recently. Google's cached version of one page shows it was there on April 8. This is the oldest cached page they have, and it is 12 days after Chris was released by court order.

If Chris was admitted to Gateway, he may have been on the waitlist for a long time and would have been one of the last people accepted before they stopped taking applications. This could explain the long wait in jail after the transfer from the mental hospital, as well as the continuances after letters from DBHDS and Allyson K. Tysinger.

Wednesday April 26 will mark 30 days post release. According to Pointless Sperg's now outdated FAQ:
Here is one of Gateway's requirements:
April 26 is important because Chris has a garnishment hearing scheduled for that day. Basically he owes Bank of America money and hasn't been paying his debt.

I wonder whether the issue of funding Chris's ongoing mental health bills will be discussed at this hearing. Maybe BoA won't be able to garnish Chris's income while it's being used to pay for the looney bin's fees. If this is the case, the tugboat is sailing again.

I gotta tell ya, you're a very hard person to reply to.

Not only is the reply button whited out, but when I tried to highlight it and hit reply it came up with that copy and select all crap.

Oh well, I just timed it and was able to hit reply so here I am.

And you, my dear Kiwi, deserve to have a True and Honest fan rating.

That's a lot of work and digging and timelining you did.

Good job kiddo! You're a trooper. A lot of that really does line up even though it's just speculation.

At least the bank will have something to garnish if he does in fact get some mundane car part assembly job or whatever.

Just don't let him anywhere near food.

 

[Jon Osterman]

I don't think even the threat of homelessness will work to finally start the job saga. Chris is so stubbornly committed to being a full time goddess that any occupation with a chance of hiring him wouldn't meet his standards. His ideal job is sitting on his ass, occasionally making something, and having a bunch of others do his job for him, and there's no way a position like that is open to him.

knowing nobody will say anything because Chris will claim they're just hating on him for being a tranny or being autistic.

Chris has tried multiple times to pull that card and I don't think it has ever legitimately worked. And it especially wont work to convince the blue-collar factory workers of Virginia he'll work with.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

And it especially wont work to convince the blue-collar factory workers of Virginia he'll work with.

It's funny with how much Chris identifies with living in VA, but the majority, except for Charlottesville, isn't comfortable with his lifestyle. Chris would fit a lot better in a more metropolitan blue state than VA, but the dumb SOB doesn't like change.

 

[King Kiwi]

It's funny with how much Chris identifies with living in VA, but the majority, except for Charlottesville, isn't comfortable with his lifestyle. Chris would fit a lot better in a more metropolitan blue state than VA, but the dumb SOB doesn't like change.

Sometimes we have an idea of ourselves and then there's who we really are.

 

[Ophelia]

Chris has never "quit" anything. Abandoning projects, yes many times. But never "quit"

They were talking about Ulillillia, not Chris. Chris has never worked at Walmart.

I don't think even the threat of homelessness will work to finally start the job saga.

I agree. The reality might not even be enough for some time.

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

I’m almost certain the answer is no, but is there any circumstance where someone is told to get a job because it would be good for their mental or social health? It’s way too close to “work setting you free” for it to be common, but someone like Chris would benefit from any sort of structure.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I’m almost certain the answer is no, but is there any circumstance where someone is told to get a job because it would be good for their mental or social health? It’s way too close to “work setting you free” for it to be common, but someone like Chris would benefit from any sort of structure.

I'm certain in the past, Bob, even with the mainstreaming, told Chris to get a job because it "may fix your autism." And I don't doubt you that Chris would benefit from the structure. The problem is if Chris is out of line, or gets the slightest infraction for something minuscule, Chris will make a big deal out of it. Chris is at a limbo where his IQ is enough to be placed in certain positions for tards, but his EQ fights against someone higher in authority telling him what to do, because Chris thinks he's above criticism.

If Chris was in the position of working in order to be released (he won't be returning home), by meeting the standards of a court order, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. He can probably do it, but I can't say if he will last long. If anything Chris has surprised me with his adaptability while in jail.

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

I'm certain in the past, Bob, even with the mainstreaming, told Chris to get a job because it "may fix your autism." And I don't doubt you that Chris would benefit from the structure. The problem is if Chris is out of line, or gets the slightest infraction for something minuscule, Chris will make a big deal out of it. Chris is at a limbo where his IQ is enough to be placed in certain positions for tards, but his EQ fights against someone higher in authority telling him what to do, because Chris thinks he's above criticism.

If Chris was in the position of working in order to be released (he won't be returning home), by meeting the standards of a court order, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. He can probably do it, but I can't say if he will last long. If anything Chris has surprised me with his adaptability while in jail.

I’m more interested in the intersection of that and his disability status. He’s certified as unable to work, which I believe is effectively true because who on earth would hire him if they’re only thinking about their bottom line.

Has there ever been anything like a 100% fake work program for extremely maladjusted people?

 

[Debbie Macomber]

I still think Chris told the Gateway House "Yep, I'm striving for independence. You'll see. From second 1 I'll do whatever it takes to be living on my own as soon as possible!" by which he meant killing Barb and taking the house back.

Now, Chris is learning that isn't an acceptable goal, and what "striving for independence" really means

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

How can he commit matricide if he has zero way to contact her and 14 Branchland Ct.?

 

[King Kiwi]

How can he commit matricide if he has zero way to contact her and 14 Branchland Ct.?

Stewie is never going to actually kill Lois, I promise.

 

[Ophelia]

I’m almost certain the answer is no, but is there any circumstance where someone is told to get a job because it would be good for their mental or social health? It’s way too close to “work setting you free” for it to be common, but someone like Chris would benefit from any sort of structure.

Therapists will advise some clients to get jobs or volunteer, yes. To break out of depression cycles, get structure, beat back ennui or whatnot. Historically, America has been really into the idea of work being good for dignity, self respect, et al. It’s arguably one of the things America was founded on.

Has there ever been anything like a 100% fake work program for extremely maladjusted people?

I saw a news item some time ago about “makework jobs,” meaning the people running the centre would manufacture things for slow in da minds to do, give them tasks to complete with their hands. Do you mean something like that? I don’t even know if they exist anymore. The new wave seems to be “autists are perfect just the way they are and don’t need to change or do a thing.”

How can he commit matricide if he has zero way to contact her and 14 Branchland Ct.?

If she’s even there.

But it’s not impossible, if he had allies. I wouldn’t bet on it, but Chris’s ability to do horrible things shouldn’t be underestimated.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

That being the case, I'm hoping Chris would stay on task and not be a distraction. But given he thinks of himself too highly for work like that, and he's already got used to the tugboat, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Like I said before, even if Chris was given a job today and started working, it wouldn't take long for him to get into spats with the manajerk.

I'm still holding out hope that now that Chris is a 100% controlled environment, with more or less competent tard wranglers, that he'll eventually work himself into a routine. I won't say there won't be tard outs from Chris, but if jail is any indication, he seems able to put up with a regimented routine. Not to mention the tard wranglers will have every part of day planned out, and they'll also have punishments.

Chris really has no other options, so he has nothing else to go off of. Maybe one day of going to McDonalds would be enough of a motivator. Pretty soon, if he completely shuts down, he's in the system. If he improves, then he'll still be in the system, most likely for years. As others have said, there's plenty of places that take in tards and put them to work, and know how to motivate them.

I'm convinced that without the distractions Chris has on his own, that he's too much of a weak pussy to rebel for long. I think that last mugshot of Chris was so sad because he realized that Heilberg telling him he'd "get out of prison", wasn't "he's going to free", but rather just out of jail. Hopefully that crush, along with his present position will make him moldable.

One thing though, if the system sees Chris as this incapable of living on his own, imagine him out the real world. I think the amount of dumbassery we know about is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to his behavior in public. In fact, it gets even worse if you think about Chris maybe spending a few hours a week in public, yet we know about a lot of it because his behavior was generally trash all that time.