Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Marvin]

Yes, they do. Timmy Whitbeck just got them, and we know Chris would never be able to give himself injections and patches don't do much since their as low dose as Oestrogel. Like I said, even if Chris got say, 2-4 mg of Estradiol, it's useless since most if not all of it is converted to estrone in the liver. 2-4 mg seems to be the standard max dose, BTW, even at an informed consent clinic, we've all seen troons here waste their time with stuff like that. I can't see Chris being savvy enough to understand the difference between creams, pills, patches, pellets and how effective each one is.

I know what Chris has is "real HRT" the question becomes is it real enough to produce an actual effect in a balding, obese transvestite, who is almost 40. Of course not, and Chris' doctor, if he has one, should be contacted immediately and made aware of Chris' mental instability and his fetishistic tendencies.

Why would a troon be wasting their time with those doses of estrogen? Is it ineffective? How do t blockers affect that?

But that aside, I'm not really concerned with whether or not this actually is effective. I'm concerned with what medications Chris receives compared to actual, legit trannies. If Chris is receiving normal tranny medications, that's saying a lot.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not cheering Chris on in this. I'm seriously disturbed Chris is receiving actual tranny medications. Even if he's actually trans, Chris is a disturbed individual who should not be given keys to fuck up his liver this way.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Why would a troon be wasting their time with those doses of estrogen? Is it ineffective? How do t blockers affect that?

1. The key hormone needed to completely feminize mammalian bodies is estradiol, and this can only really happen during puberty ages 8-17. After this period, your body drastically slows production of growth hormones and becomes less active as far as sexual differentiation is concerned. Also, your genes change, making them less responsive to sexual differentiation too.

2. The way titty skittles are administered, through the mouth, the max dosage is already very small 2-4 milligrams standard.

3. Of the 2-4 milligrams of estradiol ingested orally, 80 percent is filtered out through the liver and kidneys like most meds. This means that only 20 percent is left to be metabolized by the cells. So that means that you're only left with 800 micrograms from 4 mgs of estradiol plus the stress it puts on your liver and kidneys. Trannies have to take these pills every day which puts even more stress on the liver and kidneys. These pills were designed for very thin menopausal women, which means 2 mg is pushing it, 4 mg will eventually stress your organs.

4. The 800 micrograms of estradiol left will not stay in that strong form, as I said, because it's swollowed, it has to go to the liver first to be processed, so that 800 micrograms of estradiol turns into estrone, which is 15-20 times weaker than the principle feminizing hormone. Estrone is mainly produced by women during menopause from fat cells. and as I said before, has very little effect in terms of feminization. Estrone is basically mother nature's way of trying to appease menopausal women without giving them breast cancer.
Whatever weak, menopausal, titty juice is left must hop onto a hormone binding protein to reach the receptor site, and that is also highly variable depending on health and age.

5. The anti-androgen Chris has to be taking is Spironolactone, and its primary use is as a potassium-sparing diuretic, not an anti-androgen. It is a very weak anti-androgen, and some research has surfaced from its addition to birth control pills claiming it can actually bind to progresterone receptors, which would hinder breast development.
That's another thing that is terrible too, Chris' diet and health are shit. A potassium-sparing diuretic could fuck with his osmotic balance causing arrhythmia and other unpleasant side effects.

So, that's a simple explanation of why Chris is basically wasting his time.

If Chris is receiving normal tranny medications, that's saying a lot.

No, it's just a reflection of what we already know. Gatekeeping is lacking, and people with Chris' level of autism and mental health red flags need competent social workers.

 

[asperhes]

It's the anniversary of his arrest. Every year on this date a shadow passes over the face of the Ass Manager as the memory of that ill encounter overwhelms him, but the following day he is in high spirits again.

 

[Trilby]

Why would a troon be wasting their time with those doses of estrogen? Is it ineffective? How do t blockers affect that?

But that aside, I'm not really concerned with whether or not this actually is effective. I'm concerned with what medications Chris receives compared to actual, legit trannies. If Chris is receiving normal tranny medications, that's saying a lot.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not cheering Chris on in this. I'm seriously disturbed Chris is receiving actual tranny medications. Even if he's actually trans, Chris is a disturbed individual who should not be given keys to fuck up his liver this way.

Either way, in the end, his story WILL be a lesson to any parent wanting to run away with their troubles than to accept recommended advice from the State.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Responding to this here so I don't derail the thread. In Chris's mind what he's doing is how women live, and I'd say if he was born a woman his life would still be the same with the (possible) exception of what porn he watches. (Btw video games haven't been just a guy thing in a while.) Look at the ratking Chris tries way harder than 99% of those guys. I believe Chris is trans. It's just that he's also an absolutely lazy idiot.

I really don't care if Chris is trans or not, but what I do care about is claiming that Chris is living the life a woman. If Chris had been born a woman with autism, he would have been more likely to get the help he needed a long time ago. Sure, he would have been awkward as fuck still, but he wouldn't be as ostracized by society for being a creepy pervert. Not saying that women or autistic women can't be pervy, but there would have been less of a chance of Chris being known as the crazy pacer or the stalker of a male version of Doopie. Video games were never just a guy thing, I remember playing Super Mario video games as a young girl and loving them tremendously, I no longer play because they just don't interest me anymore. Not saying there are no hardcore female gamers either, but the amount they play and types of games they play vary between genders.
Chris really does not try harder than the ratkings, I think they're equally autistic and lazy in their half-assed presentation of feminity. I've touched on this before, but I also have a huge problem with Chris' disgusting loli wear. That is creepy and if it does not look good on Stefonknee it does not look good on Chris. In fact, it has the same effect of making Chris look like a pervert, in my opinion. The same damn music note skirt with a few different greasy tank- tops now and then is not my idea of anything close to trying to pass. At least some ratkings wear make-up on a regular to semi-regular basis.

I just don't get it, there's nothing stereotypically or objectively feminine about Chris. Even when he does try to pretend, he still comes across as a cartoonish paradoy typical of autogynepheliacs and is highly inconsistent with it.

 

[Marvin]

1. The key hormone needed to completely feminize mammalian bodies is estradiol, and this can only really happen during puberty ages 8-17. After this period, your body drastically slows production of growth hormones and becomes less active as far as sexual differentiation is concerned. Also, your genes change, making them less responsive to sexual differentiation too.

2. The way titty skittles are administered, through the mouth, the max dosage is already very small 2-4 mg standard.

3. Of the 2-4 mg of estradiol ingested orally, 80 percent is filtered out through the liver and kidneys like most meds. This means that only 20 percent is left to be metabolized by the cells. So that means that you're only left with 800 micrograms from 4 mgs of estradiol plus the stress it puts on your liver and kidneys. Trannies have to take these pills every day which puts even more stress on the liver and kidneys. These pills were designed for very thin menopausal women, which means 2 mg is pushing it, 4 mg will eventually stress your organs.

4. The 800 micrograms of estradiol left will not stay in that strong form, as I said, because it's swollowed, it has to go to the liver first to be processed, so that 800 micrograms of estradiol turns into estrone, which is 15-20 times weaker than the principle feminizing hormone. Estrone is mainly produced by women during menopause from fat cells. and as I said before, has very little effect in terms of feminization. Estrone is basically mother nature's way of trying to appease menopausal women without giving them breast cancer.
Whatever weak, menopausal, titty juice is left must hop onto a hormone binding protein to reach the receptor site, and that is also highly variable depending on health and age.

5. The anti-androgen Chris has to be taking is Spironolactone, and its primary use is as a potassium-sparing diuretic, not an anti-androgen. It is a very weak anti-androgen, and some research has surfaced from its addition to birth control pills claiming it can actually bind to progresterone receptors, which would hinder breast development.
That's another thing that is terrible too, Chris' diet and health are shit. A potassium-sparing diuretic could fuck with his osmotic balance causing arrhythmia and other unpleasant side effects.

Excellent. This is very useful information.

So, that's a simple explanation of why Chris is basically wasting his time.

Well again, I'm not really trying to evaluate Chris' choices in a universal context. Just trying to ask the question "how retarded Chris is compared to 'normal' people", and then, asking to what degree is he different from normal people?

I'm not a shrink or an endocrinologist.

No, it's just a reflection of what we already know. Gatekeeping is lacking, and people with Chris' level of autism and mental health red flags need competent social workers.

Disagree.

I think the fact that a medical professional has written a script for Chris is significant. Not significant in the sense that Chris' ramblings are legitimate. There are many dimensions in which this can be significant. For example, it says a lot about the state of psychiatry today if cwc can be given a script for transgender hormones.

 

[Marvin]

Chris really does not try harder than the ratkings, I think they're equally autistic and lazy in their half-assed presentation of feminity. I've touched on this before, but I also have a huge problem with Chris' disgusting loli wear. That is creepy and if it does not look good on Stefonknee it does not look good on Chris. In fact, it has the same effect of making Chris look like a pervert, in my opinion. The same damn music note skirt with a few different greasy tank- tops now and then is not my idea of anything close to trying to pass. At least some ratkings wear make-up on a regular to semi-regular basis.

I just don't get it, there's nothing stereotypically or objectively feminine about Chris. Even when he does try to pretend, he still comes across as a cartoonish paradoy typical of autogynepheliacs and is highly inconsistent with it.

Chris' perception matters here.

Chris believes he's trying to be a woman. Most other trannies have normal mental faculties and understand they're fuckups. They make excuses for their fuckups.

 

[Angel Bob]

Video games were never just a guy thing, I remember playing Super Mario video games as a young girl and loving them tremendously, I no longer play because they just don't interest me anymore. Not saying there are no hardcore female gamers either, but the amount they play and types of games they play vary between genders.

This is very true. Gaming is something both sexes enjoy evenly, its just men and women enjoy different types of games, like any other form of entertainment. Women tend to prefer RPGs and simulators, while men tend prefer shooters and action games.
It just shows Chris's preference in games is just as masculine as everything else about him.

 

[Ballzymaker94]

So when he gets the surgery and uses his own seed, what happens when he learns he can’t give birth? I’m actually curious about this.

 

[Trilby]

I think the fact that a medical professional has written a script for Chris is significant. Not significant in the sense that Chris' ramblings are legitimate. There are many dimensions in which this can be significant. For example, it says a lot about the state of psychiatry today if cwc can be given a script for transgender hormones.

That is certainly an interesting point to make in all this.

So when he gets the surgery and uses his own seed, what happens when he learns he can’t give birth? I’m actually curious about this.

I'm sure none of us will want to miss that!

 

[Dr. Tremolo]

This is very true. Gaming is something both sexes enjoy evenly, its just men and women enjoy different types of games, like any other form of entertainment. Women tend to prefer RPGs and simulators, while men tend prefer shooters and action games.
It just shows Chris's preference in games is just as masculine as everything else about him.

I'm quite amused at the fact he's apparently picked up Gears of War on the Hexbox. Nothing wrong for women to play whatever they like of course but this is Chris we're talking about here and this is one of the most MAN vidya series around where you can hardly find any women around at all and the average dude is built like Mariusz Pudzianowski. I could totally see Classic Chris being uncomfortable about it.
Of course, I remember seeing girls who were into it specifically because of the ultra-ripped dudes...

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

For example, it says a lot about the state of psychiatry today if cwc can be given a script for transgender hormones.

That's all part of gatekeeping. Chris probably didn't even have to go to a trained, competent professional well versed in human sexuality, psychiatry, or psychotherapy to get his tranny sticker. Within the next 10 years, it won't be too much of a surprise of the FDA deregulates HRT and puberty blockers, so people can purchase them over the counter and pass them off in Holloween candy.

Chris believes he's trying to be a woman.

There's also a whole list of wacky things Chris believes.
He believed that binaural beats would work, which seems to have subsided, probably the time he started taking HRT. Now, who knows what he believes about HRT. Like, I wonder if he truly believes that HRT will turn him into a Marylin Monroe/Ariana Grande/Ellen Paige type. Chris also believes that he has a special connection with make-believe cartoons in another dimension.
I wonder if taken to some sort of special camp where he's sequestered from the Internet, TV, and weebs and confronted with the reality that it's truly impossible for him to live as a women or transition into a woman, Chris would think......"hmm....yeah, that was stupid"

 

[Deadpool]

I really don't care if Chris is trans or not, but what I do care about is claiming that Chris is living the life a woman. If Chris had been born a woman with autism, he would have been more likely to get the help he needed a long time ago. Sure, he would have been awkward as fuck still, but he wouldn't be as ostracized by society for being a creepy pervert. Not saying that women or autistic women can't be pervy, but there would have been less of a chance of Chris being known as the crazy pacer or the stalker of a male version of Doopie. Video games were never just a guy thing, I remember playing Super Mario video games as a young girl and loving them tremendously, I no longer play because they just don't interest me anymore. Not saying there are no hardcore female gamers either, but the amount they play and types of games they play vary between genders.
Chris really does not try harder than the ratkings, I think they're equally autistic and lazy in their half-assed presentation of feminity. I've touched on this before, but I also have a huge problem with Chris' disgusting loli wear. That is creepy and if it does not look good on Stefonknee it does not look good on Chris. In fact, it has the same effect of making Chris look like a pervert, in my opinion. The same damn music note skirt with a few different greasy tank- tops now and then is not my idea of anything close to trying to pass. At least some ratkings wear make-up on a regular to semi-regular basis.

I just don't get it, there's nothing stereotypically or objectively feminine about Chris. Even when he does try to pretend, he still comes across as a cartoonish paradoy typical of autogynepheliacs and is highly inconsistent with it.

First what makes you think Chris would have been more likely to have gotten help if he was born a female? Borb would have been the same combination of stubborn and stupid that had them mainstream him. He'd have still been coddled and told he was perfect so he wouldn't see a reason to get help.

Also I not have worded it the best. I don't think Chris behaves as a normal woman, hell he never behaved as a normal man either. I'm just saying he's living his own version of being a woman, and doing so sincerely. He honestly believes he's acting like a woman.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

First what makes you think Chris would have been more likely to have gotten help if he was born a female? Borb would have been the same combination of stubborn and stupid that had them mainstream him. He'd have still been coddled and told he was perfect so he wouldn't see a reason to get help.

Also I not have worded it the best. I don't think Chris behaves as a normal woman, hell he never behaved as a normal man either. I'm just saying he's living his own version of being a woman, and doing so sincerely. He honestly believes he's acting like a woman.

I think we give way too much power to what Chris believes versus what's actually true. You're right, Chris never behaved normally, but he still behaved like an abnormal male (he still does). Chris was in fact coddled and taught that he was perfect because he was a male child. If Chris had been born a female, I am sure that Barb would have set a higher standard for him because she would project her own image as a woman onto him. He would have probably also had a better relationship with Bob. We also know that autistic women are more likely than autistic men to be in romantic relationships be it lesbian or straight.

 

[Marvin]

Now, who knows what he believes about HRT. Like, I wonder if he truly believes that HRT will turn him into a Marylin Monroe/Ariana Grande/Ellen Paige type.

More than that, I don't think Chris believes he needs to be turned into anything else. I think Chris thinks he's just fine how he is, aside from the bent duck. I don't think he has any idea in his head about female shapeliness. I think he thinks it's quite literally tits and vagina. That's it.

I think we give way too much power to what Chris believes versus what's actually true.

Well, I mean, the reason why we do that is because many people don't actually believe Chris is as retarded as he is. We focus on what Chris believes because every five minutes, someone comes in and says "lol chris doesn't believe that, he's faking".

Furthermore, the reality doesn't actually matter that much because it'll never impact fatty.

Like for example, with this tranny shit, Chris isn't going to get bitten by this. He doesn't have the ability to notice social ostracization. He doesn't feel shame like normal people do. Unless he destroys his liver with the drugs, he's going to keep marching on happily.

There's no point to discussing reality in regards to someone who has never lived in reality.

If Chris had been born a female, I am sure that Barb would have set a higher standard for him because she would project her own image as a woman onto him.

She'd raise Christine to be a whore.

 

[Jack Awful]

I wanted to congratulate @Doopie on her recent engagement.

 

[Dr. Tremolo]

Well, I mean, the reason why we do that is because many people don't actually believe Chris is as exceptional as he is. We focus on what Chris believes because every five minutes, someone comes in and says "lol chris doesn't believe that, he's faking".

This has probably been discussed many times but it's funny because Chris is actually more honest than generic online SJW troons about his tranny shit - he's pretty simple-minded so his desire to be a woman is rather straightforward. He doesn't have the mental faculties to engage in all the sophistry that surrounds the sphere like the non-binary 6 million genders shit (at most, he was presented with the idea that there's more than 2 by someone, thought "hmm, das interesting" and then spurted it out once or twice thoughtlessly), nor would he do it cynically for any benefits - so all he just wants is to be the pretty Pristine Christine. It's only because of his piss poor understanding of what being a woman entails, his inability to express himself well and his general appearance of a seaweed-haired bag lady that he can be totally mistaken for a typical troon by someone not familiar with him.

 

[Angel Bob]

This is a dumb question, but I've been too busy to keep up with Chris for the last few months - is he still the only one in control of his social media? Several of his facebook and twitter posts sound more like someone trying to mimic his style than Chris himself. I know there's a troll pulling the strings right now, and I hate that they're messing with CWCville, since when it's over it garuntes he's going to go offline for awhile.

I'm quite amused at the fact he's apparently picked up Gears of War on the Hexbox. Nothing wrong for women to play whatever they like of course but this is Chris we're talking about here and this is one of the most MAN vidya series around where you can hardly find any women around at all and the average dude is built like Mariusz Pudzianowski. I could totally see Classic Chris being uncomfortable about it.
Of course, I remember seeing girls who were into it specifically because of the ultra-ripped dudes...

There's definitely crossover. When I was a kid any girl who was into games was obsessed with Tomb Raider despite Lara's pin-up girl image and the guy friendly camera angles.

First what makes you think Chris would have been more likely to have gotten help if he was born a female? Borb would have been the same combination of stubborn and stupid that had them mainstream him. He'd have still been coddled and told he was perfect so he wouldn't see a reason to get help.

Also I not have worded it the best. I don't think Chris behaves as a normal woman, hell he never behaved as a normal man either. I'm just saying he's living his own version of being a woman, and doing so sincerely. He honestly believes he's acting like a woman.

If Chris were born a girl with autism, he would have been less likely to have gotten help, since autism presents differently enough in girls that until recently doctors believed it was exclusive to males. He would have had an easier time getting laid though and likely would have a redneck baby daddy and a couple of Crystals running around.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/autism-it-s-different-in-girls/

 

[CWCissey]

We all know what Punchy got for Christmas (molested), but what (if anything?) did Chris get?

 

[Kosher Dill]

I wonder if taken to some sort of special camp where he's sequestered from the Internet

That sounds like a Fine Ol' Solution. Maybe they'll give him a shower too.