Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Chieftain Coke Peanut]

Is the whole "you just want to fuck us" and "fear of being raped" from transpeople just pure cope about being sexless sterile freaks? Trans porn is more popular than I would have thought it seems, but honestly it just seems like it's for gays who don't want to admit they are gay to themselves. You can't watch that kind of shit and not be some flavor of fag. The only thing that trans people have somewhat of a point about is the fear of being murdered after hooking up. Except it's entirely their fault since they try to go stealth and rape people.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I'm pretty online myself (though not into "fandoms" at all- in fact, call me the anti-fandom

I've been around a lot of online communities yet the entire fandom concept let alone term itself is such a tumblr thing. TV shows, books. There's no "league of legends fandom" (at least until they started shitting out movies).

Sorry for being extra off-topic, but the whole thing reminds me of how I was essentially a retard at my last job because I had a micro managing narcissistic boss causing me so much distress. She changed my brain chemistry by keeping me confused and tired doing pointless tasks and rechecking my work, when previous managers never had negative feedback about me. So yeah, to bring it back to the topic at hand, causing people to become confused, distracted, and fatigued makes them actually retarded.

Welcome to the "it doesn't happen! women are all queens!" psyop that men are subjected to but aren't able to talk about cause see previous statement. The troon may show you his gender euphoria boner but the 50-something woman will slowly spread corruption throughout the company til you quit yourself. And she'll do it subconsciously, even if it's master planned and nearing tactical genius. It comes natural to people and more-so women due to their role in society throughout the years; brains over brawn. Trophies. Able to muck around and act spymaster while Mr King did the actual work.

No matter how much I hate women (it's unreal, shoutout afghanistan), it must suck so much to witness troons parade around, making a mockery of your existence short of blackface and big red lips towards a negroid, and you just have to accept it. "Omg I feel like such a real woman! I crashed my car and broke a heel! So ditzy!". Imagine a F2M venting about how masculine they felt pissing themselves after drunk driving home from the pub, having catcalled women and whined about their boss. Literal fucking stereotypes.

Take one sober look at people out and about in real life. Both genders wear jeans. Both genders just want to get their shopping done. Both genders wear sweatpants and have sweaty hair. Both genders wear sneakers. Men don't wear big boots and brown belts, and women don't wear skirts and stockings. Troons do.

 

[Chappell's Lost Earring]

Take one sober look at people out and about in real life. Both genders wear jeans. Both genders just want to get their shopping done. Both genders wear sweatpants and have sweaty hair. Both genders wear sneakers. Men don't wear big boots and brown belts, and women don't wear skirts and stockings. Troons do.

It’s interesting to me how we have come full circle, and that men in spaces like this are defending women’s existence more than the women out in the real world.


I never expected I would move any more right than I was. I still consider myself overall progressive. But as you can see, I’ve basically become a full-blown TERF now. The trannies ruined it for themselves by being retarded and not considerate of women in their own spaces.


I always thought it was weird when I encountered TERFs in LGBT spaces, but now I am going to cling to them like life raft. They aren’t brainwashed like the rest.

 

[Meat Target]

Thanks for reminding me of this term. I am beginning find their existence insulting and a bastardization of womanhood.

Most of them have gotten their idea of womanhood from watching porn. Dylan Mulvaney referring to a vagina as a "Barbie Pouch" is arguably more sexist than anything Andrew Tate has said.

But if you are a man that has the build of a quarterback, why do you want to try to get everyone in society to perceive you as a woman?

A disconcerting amount of stereotypically macho men, such as athletes, bodybuilders, or military veterans, have trooned out because of body dysmorphia taken to its extreme.

What both points - porn and dysmorphia - have in common is that they involve over-exposure to perfect, idealized bodies, which leads to feelings of inadequacy.

On top of that, autism is positively correlated with transgenderism. They're often in their own little world and are limited in understanding other people.

 

[grenouille crétine]

It’s interesting to me how we have come full circle, and that men in spaces like this are defending women’s existence more than the women out in the real world.

It’s interesting to me that you feel compelled to be polite to someone who says he hates you and that women shouldn’t speak à la Afghanistan. Female socialization runs strong.

There’s a lot of misogynists here who think () that it’s all women’s fault that troons have been permitted to run amok, despite the likes of “Martine” Rothblatt, “Laverne” Cox, Bruce Jenner etc being the powerful and famous males pushing this stuff. No one gives a shit about Chaz Bono and Ellen Page. Pooners are the soft PR wing and are disgusting/pitiable in their own right, but a trans-ID woman ie female in a male bathroom or walking in on a male locker room is very obviously not the same risk to the people in there as vice versa. If you’re just now permitting yourself to question this stuff I won’t be too harsh, because it takes time to see and process the rotten state of it all. That said:

Women, even in progressive spaces, should be teaching other women to be wary of transwomen and not blindly trusting of them. They are still capable of assaulting and raping us, and probably more likely to if we let them in our spaces, because rape usually happens by people you know over strangers.

Sure, those women get called TERF cunt and are driven out by troon sycophants, female and male alike. Males tend to be the ones with the rape and decapitation threats. Males, even in progressive spaces, should not be treated like they have any fucking idea what they are talking about or the best interest of anything but their own dick in mind.

Lesbian feminists like Julie Bindel have long been sounding the alarm, because lesbians do not like males or being compelled to play along with their delusions, and the first troons were straight males demanding to have access to lesbian spaces and dating. Especially as gay men also trooned out from their own form of AGP/sexual obsession with straight men/being effeminate and hated for it, they thought troons crying about the mean mean lesbians was fine and dandy. There was also the NAMBLA thing. Lest you Google too many unpleasant things unawares: North American Man Boy Love Association, ie gay pedophiles. Lesbians and the few sane gay/bi men in existence were not very happy about gay rights being hitched to a wagon with pedos and psychopathic crossdressers, but the pedos won—more money, more power. So it goes.

I would argue the lesbian poon push of the same period was reverse order, clearly I am biased but that is my read of the reality of it. Being butch gets you hatred and threats, there’s a lot of angst for wanting straight women, and the idealized image of being strong and masculine is “AAP”, autoandrophilia. I do think it exists which is not widely agreed upon, but is not as important or relevant outside straight women transitioning. And despite my lack of general sympathy for gay male troons due to their misogyny, if you meet a decent troon, he’s almost certainly gay and has been through some pretty horrible shit.

Here’s another fun term: cotton ceiling. It’s related to the glass ceiling. I’ll leave figuring out the “cotton” part to you and Google—that’s a good one to discover yourself imo. Troons destroy everything female they can get their hands on, whether it’s their societal pornsickness encouraging poonery, direct invasion of locker rooms, and of course lesbian bars are a no-go if troons can’t barge their way in. The lesbian-focused, but open to any women, music festival MichFest and anything like it is dead and it’s the fault of troons. Regarding MichFest in particular, a lesbian couple and their child are also very dead because of a troon, who is living in a female prison by the way. (Archive)

Prosecutors say Rivers used a handgun, equipped with a silencer, to shoot Charlotte Reed, Patricia Wright and their son, Benny Diambu-Wright. He then stabbed Reed 47 times before setting the family’s garage on fire in an attempt to cover his tracks.

Pooners don’t do this shit. The school shooting was notable for how rarely women commit violent crimes. This is what men, and by extension troons, do. Their predation is coddled because it is what men do under patriarchy, which is what you call the world where Islam exists and men of all colors and religions the world over are given carte blanche to literally buy women.

I'm just sad women aren't encouraging more self-preservation around trans women, as we do around men we don't know, because the narrative has us convinced this is transphobic.

Me too. But we face far worse consequences than men for doing anything about it, and women are far more concerned with equity and kindness than men. Hijack those pro-social drives to be in service of the anti-social male libido, and that is where you get Refugees Welcome and Trans Women Are Women. Have you heard of the court case Tickle v Giggle? It’s a funny name, but the case isn’t. Australia decided last year that women can’t have an app for seeking female-only housemates etc, because ugly men like “Roxanne” Tickle get their feelings hurt. We certainly can’t trust men to be the “protectors” they claim they are; the likes of the mongoloid you replied to think women and girls are getting what we deserve by having males cause life-threatening injuries (a) to women in sport, and you can search Riley Gaines/“Lia” Thomas on your own time. The very literal tip of the iceberg. This is a male supremacy movement, and men who claim they hate trannies but it’s women’s fault they’re here are not allies. Said men also piss their pants when you remind them that many women and girls poon out to avoid sexualization, and that even the cringey fujoshis (girls into gay anime porn) are running away from the male gaze into a fantasy land where they are respected as an equal. There are lots of insane non-sympathetic pooners too, but they’re still not a danger to anyone but themselves in most cases.

Other replies now, re: zoomers and gender and whether tides are shifting

I try to believe the people who say that Zoomers aren't aboard the trans train, but my online experience sadly suggests they are.

My first question is if these are only online fandom spaces you’re talking about, because it’s already obvious in the wake of COVID lockdowns especially that the terminally online cohort is very fucked up.

Honestly, there's a part of me that really wants to give companies the benefit of doubt when they promoted transgenderism because if you saw this many LGBT kids online then it would make you believe that 90% of kids are either gay or trans and as such the majority supports it.

“Seeing this many straight kids with a persecution fetish and stable wifi” is how I would personally phrase that, but sure, I’m with you. It was astroturfed to hell and back and now from what I have seen online and off, the loud ones are staying the same (and continuing to drive people away, the more negative attention they get the better), new young and/or highly unstable victims are still getting hooked, but a lot of people on the sidelines are doing the cowardly thing and just disengaging. If you didn’t care that much to begin with no skin off my nose, but the likes of AOC are annoying as hell for it. I don’t anticipate Trump doing anything useful since he is cozy with the likes of Bruce Jenner, but I would enjoy being wrong.

 

[Shig O'nella]

Is the whole "you just want to fuck us" and "fear of being raped" from transpeople just pure cope about being sexless sterile freaks?

The "you want to fuck us" bit is mostly cope. Whistling past the graveyard tier shit from someone who's made a decision they regret. Sometimes - rarely - its a sped screaming "For pity's sake someone just touch me!" the only way they can according to their own pack laws. I get a pang of sympathy for those sorts.

"Fear of being raped" - I refer you to the words of Maya Angelou.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

The whole red pill/manosphere ideology was part of the transhumanistic agenda. It sought to teach men to worship the femme cyborg, and to despise and revile natural human females. The directors of the Matrix were trannies who felt they were superior to all women, after all. They thought becoming women was a "cheat code to easy street", as is typical of most incels and red-pillers.
If a man is "trained" to hate women early and often enough via propaganda, they turn gay or trans. This is why we have so many closet cases who want feeeemoid slaves to give them children and serve them, while you KNOW these same men are faggot cruisers. They're very into the whole Ancient Greek/Ancient Roman "women are for breeding and housework, men and boys are for love and pleasure"... and for the rest, it's either tr00n out or wait for your robot waifus to arrive.

 

[Paper Machete]

The whole red pill/manosphere ideology was part of the transhumanistic agenda. It sought to teach men to worship the femme cyborg, and to despise and revile natural human females. The directors of the Matrix were trannies who felt they were superior to all women, after all. They thought becoming women was a "cheat code to easy street", as is typical of most incels and red-pillers.
If a man is "trained" to hate women early and often enough via propaganda, they turn gay or trans. This is why we have so many closet cases who want feeeemoid slaves to give them children and serve them, while you KNOW these same men are faggot cruisers. They're very into the whole Ancient Greek/Ancient Roman "women are for breeding and housework, men and boys are for love and pleasure"... and for the rest, it's either tr00n out or wait for your robot waifus to arrive.

It's funny because the idea that the ancients were as whole societies into that is itself a gay, well, gayop.

I honestly think a fair bit of the early redpill sphere was genuine and honest. But it has turned into what it is today due to the nature of e-grifting and how difficult it is to have honest conversations that don't devolve into shit-flinging when it comes to such things. It almost mirrors how mainstream/pop feminism is basically being used to do the same thing in a lot of different directions. It's ultimately just about further the yin and yang (men and women) apart and promoting degen stuff.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I honestly think a fair bit of the early redpill sphere was genuine and honest.

Where it started out was with men who had found themselves shit on by family courts and denied access to their children. These were the first "men's rights activists", and they were quickly pilloried as misogynist monsters by the media because... well, I don't actually know the reasoning, other than because they were trying to achieve equality in the wrong way I suppose. There was also an undercurrent of "why would these adult men want access to children?" in a lot of the reportage, which reeks of projection in retrospect.

At some point, "men's rights activist" was either coopted by angry young men who wanted someone to touch their dicks without putting in any effort, or applied to those same men by the people who were affected by their angry sperging. It doesn't matter, because the label stuck there and eventually became synonymous with incels. Many of those young men, as they formulated a common ideology based around resentment over their lack of intimacy, ended up re-inventing gnostic mystery cults; they found their gnosis, the "red pill" of hidden knowledge (women have a secret cheat code for the universe, which is a surprisingly ancient belief) that let them see the reality of the "system" (men are actually oppressed by women who refuse to have sex with them), and then offered one another an escape from that system, which they expressed in terms of The Matrix because it, being essentially a 20th century update of gnostic philosophies, fit their growing awareness extremely well. Troonery, to seek understanding of the feminine "cheat code" and release from the wordly "system" by adopting the feminine aspect, was the next logical step iin their journey.

The funny thing about gnostics is that, as their philsophy matures and solidifies, they tend to develop an obsession with scourging and transforming the flesh, and with extreme sexuality. Often they sterilise and castrate themselves, either to deny the flesh control, or to take part in secret, hedonistic rites in which they "learn" the secret of the feminine existence. These rites usually involved adopting a submissive sexual role to more experienced members, or becoming a temple prostitute in order to draw in new members and cement control over initiates by subjecting them to degrading sexual acts. All of this we see with troons. The only thing missing is the temple, thought they keep trying to create them in their little retard communes.

 

[Paper Machete]

The funny thing about gnostics is that, as their philsophy matures and solidifies, they tend to develop an obsession with scourging and transforming the flesh, and with extreme sexuality. Often they sterilise and castrate themselves, either to deny the flesh control, or to take part in secret, hedonistic rites in which they "learn" the secret of the feminine existence. These rites usually involved adopting a submissive sexual role to more experienced members, or becoming a temple prostitute in order to draw in new members and cement control over initiates by subjecting them to degrading sexual acts. All of this we see with troons. The only thing missing is the temple, thought they keep trying to create them in their little retard communes.

I rated your post horrifying because of this bit. It makes sense but it's also horrifying. It's not surprising "GONE SEXUAL??" would be a thing since their initial motivations are sexual frustration though. Puke.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

The red pill was a tranhumanist psy-ops, promoted by men in the tech industry --many of whom built the tech industry were special ops/psy-ops-- and women are the "enemies" of whom they want to enslave and exterminate for men's pleasure machines and artificial wombs.
Most men in the tech industry are faggots and trannies who despise women, see us as "obsolete".
Why so few women SEE this happening right in front of their eyes is beyond me. So few women literally see it and call it out for what it is. So, the end result will be inevitable.
I assume many of them KNOW deep down inside that all women will be dehumanized, dismembered, exterminated, as more and more women refuse to ever have children. When men worship their robots, why have children? Who will help feed the children once all paying work goes to tech lords and their robots? NONE of these "breed more babies!" dude bros have any answers for these questions, they demand that we give them sons and raise them on nothing but air. That means they want children's bodies, and our flesh and blood to consume and use for cyborg experiments and breeding experiments. Men hate women. Men only love other men and their machines.
Men's hatred of us is downright homicidal, stoked incessantly by mansophere rot and BDSM/GORE internet porn, and they take great joy in our perceived pain and humiliation. Most men are turning into faggots, point blank. They literally WANT to see our bodies split open and WRECKED in childbirth, just so they can rape our children once they "get ripe", too.
Seeing our blood and guts, and exterminating us, is the only thing that will truly satisfy men. ALL of men's religions point to this as "THE final solution".

 

[Obstacle]

The red pill was a tranhumanist psy-ops, promoted by men in the tech industry --many of whom built the tech industry were special ops/psy-ops-- and women are the "enemies" of whom they want to enslave and exterminate for men's pleasure machines and artificial wombs.
Most men in the tech industry are faggots and trannies who despise women, see us as "obsolete".
Why so few women SEE this happening right in front of their eyes is beyond me. So few women literally see it and call it out for what it is. So, the end result will be inevitable.
I assume many of them KNOW deep down inside that all women will be dehumanized, dismembered, exterminated, as more and more women refuse to ever have children. When men worship their robots, why have children? Who will help feed the children once all paying work goes to tech lords and their robots? NONE of these "breed more babies!" dude bros have any answers for these questions, they demand that we give them sons and raise them on nothing but air. That means they want children's bodies, and our flesh and blood to consume and use for cyborg experiments and breeding experiments. Men hate women. Men only love other men and their machines.
Men's hatred of us is downright homicidal, stoked incessantly by mansophere rot and BDSM/GORE internet porn, and they take great joy in our perceived pain and humiliation. Most men are turning into faggots, point blank. They literally WANT to see our bodies split open and WRECKED in childbirth, just so they can rape our children once they "get ripe", too.
Seeing our blood and guts, and exterminating us, is the only thing that will truly satisfy men. ALL of men's religions point to this as "THE final solution".

Rape rape, raperape!
Raperaperape!
- t. man

 

[FeatherPlucker]

Rape rape, raperape!
Raperaperape!
- t. man

Pajeets are fucking rapists, too... and the TECH BRO FAGGOTS JUST LOVE HINDUISM!
It "justifies" them creating a caste system in the West where Tech Bro Faggots are the New Brahmin.
They'd love nothing more than to give their faithful pajeets worker bees CHEAP WHITE WOMBS TO BREED! FUCKERS!

 

[grenouille crétine]

@FeatherPlucker log off, take your meds and pet a kitten. Christ.

It's funny because the idea that the ancients were as whole societies into that is itself a gay, well, gayop.

Are you really contesting that these societies considered women subhuman and only good for breeding? This is a pattern, whether it be Rome or Japan or Afghanistan. Men like to hurt women and fuck children/each other, and they will structure religion and society to maximize these pursuits.

Where it started out was with men who had found themselves shit on by family courts and denied access to their children. These were the first "men's rights activists", and they were quickly pilloried as misogynist monsters by the media because... well, I don't actually know the reasoning, other than because they were trying to achieve equality in the wrong way I suppose.

Boo hoo. Poor men. (a) Mean mean media and mean mean moms. So unfair! Women get full custody and total divorce rape 105% of the time and men are forced to live off breadcrumbs, cloistered away from their children they love and whose birthdays/eye color they definitely know

After a year-long legal battle that cost a total of $700,000 for both parents, the judge determined that the father [despite sexually abusing his 4-year-old son] could have full legal custody. The children would split days between their parents’ homes.

The outcome of Jane’s case is not unique. One in 51 children’s claims are substantiated in court when their mother claims sexual abuse and the father claims parental alienation, according to new research done by Professor Joan Meier at George Washington University Law School.

It’s almost like many men are not and have never been fit to be fathers, and instead of having a wake-up call and bettering themselves, they cry and blame the evil feeeeemales for… holding them accountable for their despicable actions? If men really want custody, they generally get it. (a) They generally don’t want custody, unless they want to keep hurting the mother and/or the kids.

Troonism is a male supremacy movement because men are duplicitous crybabies who burn things down when they don’t get what they want, or even when they do, and that is what scrotes crying about custody battles do too.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

causing people to become confused, distracted, and fatigued makes them actually retarded.

And controllable, easy marks.

I never expected I would move any more right than I was. I still consider myself overall progressive.

The Left moved on you. Speaking for myself, noticing that enabled me to see it much more clearly. More critically. Fair warning: once you detect one steaming pile of Lefty bullshit, you start seeing and smelling them all over.

They aren’t brainwashed like the rest.

Exactly.

Welcome to the Farms.

 

[FeatherPlucker]

Go into Alex Jones' rumble chat right now, and see what kind of homicidal psychotic shit they're saying about women, how they want to exterminate women for robots, make us slaves, force breed us.. I defended our sex and was almost immediately banned. Look right now. Tech is encouraging HOMICIDAL HATRED of women? Why is NOBODY else seeing this?
This troon fuckery is directly related to EXTERMINATING WOMEN to create Bladerunner to replace us. Why does no one else notice the obvious?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Boo hoo. Poor men. (a) Mean mean media and mean mean moms. So unfair! Women get full custody and total divorce rape 105% of the time and men are forced to live off breadcrumbs, cloistered away from their children they love and whose birthdays/eye color they definitely know

The cases I'm referencing - in the 90s, mostly - were definitely unjust. It wasn't some mass movement based on statistics, or claims that men are universally mistreated, but rather a group of men who were rightly angry at being denied their parental rights. The entire point was that the term originated in a genuine attempt to right wrongs, as perceived by those men, and was repurposed to refer to actual shitbags whose entire concept of "men's rights" was "get my dick wet". It was a brief history lesson to show how the whole incel-to-troon pipeline evolved, but you chose to sperg out about that one little detail rather than try to take a holistic view.

 

[Paper Machete]

Are you really contesting that these societies considered women subhuman and only good for breeding?

It was not so cut and dry as you say. Though I'm not contesting many of these societies were sexist but that they were overtly approving of male male relations and that said relations were common among the average ancient citizen. There is a bias of historical record that is often taken advantage of and reframed that things of note were common place but they were actually of note because of their unique nature and/or because they were commenting on what someone from the upper classes did or thought since they would have been considered the most valuable to record. It wasn't until the 1800s and the increasing rate of literacy and education among the more common man that daily lives and thoughts of the average person's existence was put down.

You also have to take into account when dealing with pre-modern societies our lack of ability to make up the difference between the sexes. There were no office jobs, there were no machines, there was no modern medicine, and it is the lack of these things that shaped how societies then had to organize themselves for survival. It is unfair to apply modern standards of what is considered fair to them because it was explicitly impossible in a lot of ways to implement. You had to make rules to make do with what bare nature allowed.

 

[The Silent Perjority]

Go into Alex Jones' rumble chat right now, and see what kind of homicidal psychotic shit they're saying about women, how they want to exterminate women for robots, make us slaves, force breed us.. I defended our sex and was almost immediately banned. Look right now. Tech is encouraging HOMICIDAL HATRED of women? Why is NOBODY else seeing this?
This troon fuckery is directly related to EXTERMINATING WOMEN to create Bladerunner to replace us. Why does no one else notice the obvious?

You're fucking mental mate.

 

[grenouille crétine]

The cases I'm referencing - in the 90s, mostly - were definitely unjust. It wasn't some mass movement based on statistics, or claims that men are universally mistreated, but rather a group of men who were rightly angry at being denied their parental rights.

Cool, so post them. My deepest apologies for the heinous faux pas of using data to support my argument, which you have not refuted.

as perceived by those men

Exactly.

Though I'm not contesting many of these societies were sexist

That’s a plus

but that they were overtly approving of male male relations and that said relations were common among the average ancient citizen.

I don’t think all rich Afghan men practice bacha bazi or that every single Roman was a raging homo or even bisexual, and my focus was on the treatment of women in the equation, not the percentage or incidence of buttfuckery. That said, Romans et al did in fact support the idea that the one putting his dick inside someone else is a big manly man and the one being penetrated is a little bitch, so I’m not sure what there is to contest here apart from you not believing that is true for whatever reason. Maybe some people take that as a “win” for gay history—considering how they treated lesbians, nah—but it is simply indicative of observable male sexual practices within an ultra-stratified society. Some lucky ducks are on top and everyone else is liable to be on the bottom.

There were no office jobs, there were no machines, there was no modern medicine, and it is the lack of these things that shaped how societies then had to organize themselves for survival. It is unfair to apply modern standards of what is considered fair to them because it was explicitly impossible in a lot of ways to implement. You had to make rules to make do with what bare nature allowed.

Of course not. This still does not refute the idea that these societies viewed women as subhuman, which you even acknowledged, and practiced child rape. People practiced human sacrifice to try to influence the weather prior to understanding how to track meteorological trends, and women were domestic slaves prior to the invention of mass-produced textiles and pottery. Is it an inevitability that there is a underclass comprising women and children for rich landowning men to abuse with impunity? I would hope not, but history disagrees with me.