Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[deermeat]

Sometimes I wonder- does the government realize how fucked they caused everything to be? Do they ever think "wow, okay we went way too far, things are getting out of hand" or are they complicit with the world burning to the ground as long as they have the illusion of profit?

Realistically, it benefits them to maintain order to keep people in line. But all of this has made people hate the government. Sure, troons love the glowies. Fat acceptance love the glowies. Pedos and zoos.... Yet honest to God, what do those people provide other than being a loyal customer? They are all weak as hell. They cant defend anything and they hardly make useful idiots because they are too dumb. Their idea of unleashing addictions onto the population has worked against them.

I wonder what will happen to us. I wonder what this all will lead to. History repeats itself, but in what way will it repeat itself this time?

I laugh at all this troons thinking they're on the "right side of history". So pathetic. A lot of pathetic people in this world. What will become of it.

 

[FATTESTCUNT 2.0]

Sometimes I wonder- does the government realize how fucked they caused everything to be? Do they ever think "wow, okay we went way too far, things are getting out of hand" or are they complicit with the world burning to the ground as long as they have the illusion of profit?

With troon stuff specifically, I think it's basically a religion. One that's gained enough of a stranglehold over society that some politicians will keep quiet when they should speak out, or out and out lie and say one thing in public and another in private, rather than be tainted as a blasphemer.

The same shit happened with lobotomies. It was pushed as an exciting new treatment. The media never really questioned the surgeons, nor methods involved, and it was pushed as a positive thing. It was compared to having a tooth extracted, in terms of the negative effects. Surgeons often performed lobotomies on patients without any kind of psychiatric evaluation being performed first. It was pushed as being the only valid treatment for certain mental illnesses. It earned surgeons a lot of money. There was no real follow-up of patients, and nothing long-term. People were sometimes told that patients would commit suicide if not given a lobotomy. Over time, the age of patients that lobotomies were recommended for got lower and lower. People who questioned the science were either attacked or scared to speak out.

Tens of thousands of Americans either had holes drilled into their skulls, or an ice pick pushed into their brain through one of their eye sockets, and that shit went on for several years.

To me, it seems blatantly obvious that "gender-affirming care" is going to be viewed in the same way in the future.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I think trans writing appeals only to people who are into trans culture or are otherwise primed to enjoy the bizarre sexual fetishes that seep into every corner of the work. Trans-flavored slop, in other words.

It's honestly what partially peaked me too: I read less deviant trans works, more on the SFW side, but they all had heaps of praised but fucking sucked. I had a circle of indie devs I was friends with really press the game EXTREME MEAT PUNKS FOREVER along with a few other "I'm gay and also trans and life hard" games and my god, they were all just... bad. Discombobulated works with long author tracts and navel gazing at one's own self for paragraph after paragraph. Getting Jaimas to do a Let's Sperg on it was so cathartic, having a whole other set of people sit there and say "This is a mess" made me feel like I wasn't taking crazy pills.

I'm fortunately disconnected from that group now, they were more interested in minecraft and bitching about capitalism than, well, games. The fact that the only thing that mattered to these people was social issues they identified with like a fundie Christian only clapping when Jesus was preached was the biggest "fuck you" I could think of as someone who loves writing for, you know, entertainment value. Fucking awful. So I feel your pain.

The creative pursuit I'm now stuck with them in is sadly art, and not even on purpose. If I follow a nerdy woman artists or art student there's a 50/50 chance she'll troon out. At least 2 people I looked up to for YEARS have become lesbian to nonbinary or poon of some sort, and it seems like I can't look for digital artists I enjoy without hitting a genderspecial somewhere. At least traditional artists are forced to go outside to buy and sell stuff so they are less prone to it.

Can someone provide me examples of transgenderism being geniuely anti capitalist?

Yeah, trans women who crack games and software, and trans people who squat, and trans people who steal to live.

These are less anti capitalists and more selfish or literally attempting to survive reasons.

They support totalitarianism. You cant draw something that offends them. You cant draw anything controversial that could upset people or they will try to ruin your life.

So they ARE true communist!

Sadly, the more upperclass troons influence the lowerclass troons who don't have the actual luxury or money.

Is it alright to link from a lolcow thread?

No real rules here as long as it's thoughts related to troons (and abides by forum guidelines obviously). This is the troon miscellaneous thread, so as long as it is on topic, whether a specific or non specific troon, it's fine.

The reason they're rapists, pedos, furries, and other sexual crimes against humanity? Sexual pleasure is biological and controllable, but they want others to suffer so they pick the worst sex crimes that inflict the most trauma.

I agree on the self hate thing, but the reason so many male troons are sexual deviants is because they're sexual deviants. They're just hedonists with bad self control, bad genetics/life experience triggers, and bad brains who jerk off because it gives them pleasure ans they don't care the cost. Addicts and hedonists who are too selfish to self monitor. They just want that jerk off and their brains for whatever reason LOVE the most henious stuff.

The term "demon possessed" seems to summarize my thoughts, and they certainly could use an exorcism. I'm only stumped on how.

My advice is to force most of them to touch grass, and the deviants and ones who refuse to stop being assholes can be exiled to their own country (or just shot for pedos and rapists). It's a hard problem to solve since it's so multifactored, you have to tackle so many things: autism, loneliness, social cognation, bad parenting, unfortunate circumstances (that parents/guardians or adult troons can't control), mental illness, and so on.

Sometimes I wonder- does the government realize how fucked they caused everything to be? Do they ever think "wow, okay we went way too far, things are getting out of hand" or are they complicit with the world burning to the ground as long as they have the illusion of profit?

The problem is that the government is a large group made up of smaller groups made up of individuals. So yes and no: most are focused on their own problems or how to keep themselves or their friends in a job, or just their pet issues, or only what their branch does, or what lands the most money in their pocket. It's easy to think that the government is a more coherent body, but it's less that and more uh, many little people trying to pilot different parts of a giant. Really slowly. And they all have different ideas on where to go so the parts twitch and have a seizure. There are some who are more evil and selfish than others, but some of it is ignorance or the banality of evil.

So the answer is yes, some do, and others no, they have a lot on their plate or aren't in that part of the government.

The glowies? Not sure, I'm not educated on them. BUT from what I understand, they too have their own problems. From what I can tell, they're bitchy teens who have rivalries with other branches who also act like bitchy teens (like the CIA) and get themselves into trouble because they're humans who have a rush of power and great anxiety at being "national security". So my guess is that they don't fucking care. They don't have the same morality whether it's due to the power or knowledge or autism they have.

And I'm going to go out on a limb and say that troons don't love the glowies when they actually crack down on drug, sex trafficking, pedo rings, antifa busting, or other operations the more unscrupulous ones do. They aren't as buddy buddy with the feds as you think. And the feds are barely friendly to other branches of government, let alone types of people.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Did anyone ever have an obnoxious classmate in school whose ploy to get attention was to be even more obnoxious and outrageous, causing people to distance themselves further?

I feel like trannies are engaging in the same behavior, and it's made worse by how isolated people are from real human interactions these days.

 

[TruffleSpark]

With troon stuff specifically, I think it's basically a religion. One that's gained enough of a stranglehold over society that some politicians will keep quiet when they should speak out, or out and out lie and say one thing in public and another in private, rather than be tainted as a blasphemer.

The same shit happened with lobotomies. It was pushed as an exciting new treatment. The media never really questioned the surgeons, nor methods involved, and it was pushed as a positive thing. It was compared to having a tooth extracted, in terms of the negative effects. Surgeons often performed lobotomies on patients without any kind of psychiatric evaluation being performed first. It was pushed as being the only valid treatment for certain mental illnesses. It earned surgeons a lot of money. There was no real follow-up of patients, and nothing long-term. People were sometimes told that patients would commit suicide if not given a lobotomy. Over time, the age of patients that lobotomies were recommended for got lower and lower. People who questioned the science were either attacked or scared to speak out.

Tens of thousands of Americans either had holes drilled into their skulls, or an ice pick pushed into their brain through one of their eye sockets, and that shit went on for several years.

To me, it seems blatantly obvious that "gender-affirming care" is going to be viewed in the same way in the future.

There is a weird spiritual element to trans identity. The whole concept of a "gender identity" is basically just the immortal soul for people who make fun of Christians for believing in a "sky daddy." It's an entirely metaphysical concept, it only exists because people believe that it exists.

 

[Vandyke Clown]

Troon logic:

1. My transness is innate. The brain scans prove it.
2. Because it’s innate, I can’t help it.
3. Because I can’t help it, you have to validate it.

Anybody else spot where the train left the tracks?

I personally believe that pedophilia is innate too. There’s something wrong with pedo brains that has connected their sexual kicks to children. Same way troons have the sexual excitement part of their brain trained on the idea of themselves as a woman. Same way any fetish works.

In neither case does it mean we have to validate their sexual proclivities.

Yes, we recognise that your fucked up sexual interests are hard-wired and you can’t unwire them. Still doesn’t make you a woman.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Spoiler: text

people who argue that plastic surgery is “just gender affirmation for cis people” are actually saying that a woman who conforms to patriarchal beauty standards is more of a woman in their eyes than one who does not

Troon logic:

1. My transness is innate. The brain scans prove it.
2. Because it’s innate, I can’t help it.
3. Because I can’t help it, you have to validate it.

Anybody else spot where the train left the tracks?

I personally believe that pedophilia is innate too. There’s something wrong with pedo brains that has connected their sexual kicks to children. Same way troons have the sexual excitement part of their brain trained on the idea of themselves as a woman. Same way any fetish works.

In neither case does it mean we have to validate their sexual proclivities.

Yes, we recognise that your fucked up sexual interests are hard-wired and you can’t unwire them. Still doesn’t make you a woman.

I think they've actually done studies (can't be bothered to look it up) that found that for a lot of people convicted for child abuse they didn't report any attraction to children prior to being exposed to CP. So if that's true paedophilia is something that can be conditioned into you rather than being innate.

 

[Susanna]

The same shit happened with lobotomies.

I’ve long held the same belief. The obvious difference would probably be that lobotomies were done to make psychiatric treatment cheaper (the primary targets were retards or the mentally ill who also happened to be violent, someone who can’t do much more than wear a diaper and get force fed is much cheaper to care for than someone belligerent who may use his tard strength at any moment), whereas troonery always makes them more expensive (constant need for revision surgeries, vulnerability to osteoporosis, etc).

How long before a yank president’s kid troons out and reinforces the parallel with Rosemary Kennedy?

 

[Wallace]

Did anyone ever have an obnoxious classmate in school whose ploy to get attention was to be even more obnoxious and outrageous, causing people to distance themselves further?

Yes. He trooned out much later in life too.

 

[Jacques1194]

The same shit happened with lobotomies. It was pushed as an exciting new treatment. The media never really questioned the surgeons, nor methods involved, and it was pushed as a positive thing. It was compared to having a tooth extracted, in terms of the negative effects. Surgeons often performed lobotomies on patients without any kind of psychiatric evaluation being performed first. It was pushed as being the only valid treatment for certain mental illnesses. It earned surgeons a lot of money. There was no real follow-up of patients, and nothing long-term. People were sometimes told that patients would commit suicide if not given a lobotomy. Over time, the age of patients that lobotomies were recommended for got lower and lower. People who questioned the science were either attacked or scared to speak out.

There's a lot of troons who are trying to rewrite history and claim the majority of people in the medical field never supported lobotomies.I dont know what their excuse is as to how it wasn't supported when António Egas Moniz(the man who pioneered it)won a noble prize for it.The only thing I saw was this article that said "The use of lobotomy in the United States was resisted and criticized heavily by American neurosurgeons.However, because Walter J Freeman II managed to promote the success of the surgery through the media, lobotomy became touted as a miracle procedure, capturing the attention of the public and leading to an overwhelming demand for the operation." Funny does that sound familar? Transitioning is promoted by the media as a miracle procedure to anyone who is gender dysphoric, and yet TRAs will insist there's no conspiracy here.It feels like modern day society is scared at the idea that the majority of scientists can be wrong about anything, and every time in history you try to point out cases where the majority were indeed wrong, it suddenly turns into a giant "No the majority never believed that!That's a conspiracy to discredit science."Dont get wrong I'm not saying science isn't the best subject to give us answers to things, but it feels like people forget that scientists themselves are fallible humans who can either make mistakes, or get corrupted by greed.This whole idea that lobotomies weren't supported by the majority is bizarre to me because this is a procedure that is still being done today despite being heavily criticized.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Anybody else spot where the train left the tracks?

I get you, troons will not: you are saying it is a sexuality delusion while they day it's just like homosexuality. The problem they have is that no homosexual needs outside affirmation to be homosexual, they just like the same gender. The trans person needs to constantly not be misgendered to the point that a misgendering outside of normal functioning throws a whole wrench into their day and they'll lie sobbing on their beds, unable to function for the rest of the day. Or, of course, a ma'amtrum. This isn't something encouraged in day to day life. In fact, in psychology it becomes a problem since it forces them out of commission and interrupts people's lives, meaning it's a mental health problem that needs help. Troons bounce back and forth on the gendies being a mental illness or not, mainly because if you compare it tk other obsessive thinking like OCD, Anorexia, and low self esteem, the doctors don't encourage those with the disorders to give straight into their compulsions. Which infuriates them.

They also insist on people and genital prefernces being the same as preferring pizza to hamburger but eating both ans enjoying them rather than "I am full stop not attracted to you", which is usually because they cannot process nobody else has their same pseudobisexuality/actual bisexualality (less common since troons/poons are overwhelmingly straights pretending to gay), and the massive torment to their ego that their dating pool is smaller than Vaush's penis is unbearable. Gay people who aren't creepy creeps (which exist I know) just accept that their dating pool is nerfed and make do with what they can. Shoutouts to lesbians who have a depleted and mine-filled dating pool thanks to troonism.

Everything you said makes sense, but it is so mortally insulting to them that you might as well have burned their house or car down.

It feels like modern day society is scared at the idea that the majority of scientists can be wrong about anything, and every time in history you try to point out cases where the majority were indeed wrong, it suddenly turns into a giant "No the majority never believed that!That's a conspiracy to discredit science."Dont get wrong I'm not saying science isn't the best subject to give us answers to things, but it feels like people forget that scientists themselves are fallible humans who can either make mistakes, or get corrupted by greed.This whole idea that lobotomies weren't supported by the majority is bizarre to me because this is a procedure that is still being done today despite being heavily criticized.

The troon field is full of black and white thinkers because many have conditions that make them think in black and white, like the classic autism or BPD, or more minor ones like anxiety. This is important to keep in mind since you have people who freak the fuck out if it doesn't follow their worldview, which is one of the reasons they usually trooned in the first place ("but women never like dinosaurs and playing in the mud and cars I MUST BE A MAN"). It is best to analyze the community as by default having certain mental illness traits since it's nigh impossible to find a more chilled out trans person online.

The idea that science would be wrong is horrifying since that means so many OTHER things could be wrong, because science is always right!!! There's some that believe that weird evolutionary denying Christians or other anti science must be right then, since only one side can be right, right? And it becomes a catastrophic domino effect since the trust has been lost and they are too attached to their worldview to not freak out. Again, mental illness strikes here.

As you and others know, science CAN be wrong. This isn't a bad thing, it is just that humans are building up on knowledge handed down generation to generation and making new test and evolving our understanding. Science being wrong can be benign as it can be harmful, but usually it leads to better treatment and better understanding of how to navigate our world. Trans people have it bad since dropping their view means apologizing to a lot of people and rethinking your life choices, which is insanely painful and why cults keep members: sunk cost fallacy. There's a reason followup is so hard after genital surgery: 1 to 5 years is enough time for the shine to wear off and having to slink back into "I will never be that gender" and live silently as a depressed trans or detrans, or killing yourself because, well, yeah. Mentally fragile ego devistation + cutting off major contacts (first your past life for being trans then your trans friends for being sour on surgery) + long term medical cost and pain = doing a flip.

Continue to embrace nuanced thinking even if others around you can't or don't wish to grasp it. It's hard to admit wrongness, but accepting that our perceptions and understandings change and we don't always know the best is easier and better for us in the long run.

 

[Kumquat]

Sometimes I wonder- does the government realize how fucked they caused everything to be? Do they ever think "wow, okay we went way too far, things are getting out of hand" or are they complicit with the world burning to the ground as long as they have the illusion of profit?

Realistically, it benefits them to maintain order to keep people in line. But all of this has made people hate the government. Sure, troons love the glowies. Fat acceptance love the glowies. Pedos and zoos.... Yet honest to God, what do those people provide other than being a loyal customer? They are all weak as hell. They cant defend anything and they hardly make useful idiots because they are too dumb. Their idea of unleashing addictions onto the population has worked against them.

I wonder what will happen to us. I wonder what this all will lead to. History repeats itself, but in what way will it repeat itself this time?

I laugh at all this troons thinking they're on the "right side of history". So pathetic. A lot of pathetic people in this world. What will become of it.

I was just talking about this the other day to a friend of mine, and it's something I've thought a lot about. I wracked my brain for months trying to understand what exactly they were hoping to gain out of this, why they supported it so strongly. There must have been some end goal in mind, I thought. It's rational to assume they must have some kind of plan.

Then I heard someone on a single podcast. I can't even remember who it was, but they said someone that really changed my perspective. He said that it's far more comforting to assume that there's some cabal of conspirators plotting to take over, and that it's extremely terrifying to think that maybe, just maybe, nobody is really in control, and the ship has had no captain for years now, sailing blindly in the sea with no direction or plan of action at all.

The way it was said suddenly made a lot of sense. It is comforting to think that there's a big cabal, a big illuminati-type group pulling all the strings, because that way your enemy has a face and a name, you can know their motives, but most importantly, you can reassure yourself that, one day, you'll wrest control from them and steer the ship back on course.

However, the more frightening idea is that nobody is really in control. Nobody really knows what they're doing, and your enemies are just as clueless and blind as you are. That makes things a lot scarier and more difficult to deal with. If nobody is in control, well, how do you get control? What plan do you actually have? How can you somehow reassert control when there is none?

This is my theory, and I fully submit that I might be a little bit paranoid and sound kind of crazy, but I'll say it anyway. I think that what you said was the original plan; promote this hyperliberalism to make the masses easier to control and have entire generations of unthinking customers. But somewhere along the line, things got out of hand. The beast of liberalism broke free from it's masters and began rampaging through the country, devouring everything in it's path indiscriminately. I think what's happening now is the government is trying desperately to get on the beast's good side, to try and subdue it and bring it back under their control, but it's not working. The beast doesn't give a shit and is just continuing to eat whatever it sees.

I dunno, rate me crazy or dumb or whatever, but I think @AMHOLIO was on the mark a few posts above. The government isn't this one singular conglomerate. It's split up into several different factions, even within a single party or branch, all vying for control and trying to carve out some small scrap of power for themselves. Maybe they're just as confused and delirious as the rest of us, trying to make the best out of a crazy culture that's gone so far off the rails. Whether that means trying to fix it, trying to simply take what you can and bail, or ignoring it and living your life as best you can is almost beside the point.

 

[Space Police]

I've heard truscum described as subculture elitists, but a better way to describe them is as troll-shielders. The things transmeds get mad at -- low-effort hons, teenage transtrending pooners, and enbies -- all expose this ideology for what it really is, so they direct their hatred at the really absurd troons to make themselves seem saner. Just because an HSTS looks like a blow-up-doll doesn't mean he's not a man-in-drag, and he gets mad at hons for obviously showing that guys who call themselves trans are men-in-drag. Truscum pooners hate tucute pooners for being obvious NLOGs, even though truscum pooners are the ultimate NLOGs. Transmeds hate enbies for enforcing fake identities, but is that not what all trannies are doing?

The stories I've been hearing recently - within the last year - are about people of some influence in large inter-church christian organisations, who see troonery as a way to "fix" homosexuality

It's been like this since the 2000s. To Christcucks, troonery is just another way to push gay people into the closet when all else fails. Troons are what homophobes think gay people are (perverse freaks in denial of basic reality), so it's not surprising that they tolerate troons as "good gays attempting to live a virtuous heterosexual lifestyle".

I often look at the tgandsissyrecovery subreddit. It’s very interesting…

I've wondered how many of those people on that subreddit are gooners who fetishize relapsing. They'll all relapse anyways, unless they're teens/young adults who are still able to rewire their sexuality back to normal (even that's very unlikely if they have a massive porn addiction).

Realistically, it benefits them to maintain order to keep people in line. But all of this has made people hate the government.

This troon crap (and most of these other absurd issues) is doing a great job of keeping people in line. There are big issues at hand -- we're on the brink of world war, big corporations are making record profits, and the planet will be uninhabitable by the end of the century -- but the elites won't solve any of these problems because it benefits them. There's a lot of money in war, and there will be a lot of money in densely packing people from sunken coastal areas into land-locked areas. Meanwhile, us pathetic plebs are fighting over whether an egomaniacal failed businessman deserves power, whether male sexual deviants deserve special access into women's spaces, and whether words on a screen kill people. The elites have done this before; Occupy Wall Street died because absurd identity politics distracted leftists from the bigger issues, with a lot of elite media support -- NYT articles on racism/sexism skyrocketed in the 2010s.

 

[Vandyke Clown]

Gay people who aren't creepy creeps (which exist I know)

This is the problem I have with the forced teaming that “LGBTQP++” represents. It lumps the good with the bad. It makes an all-or-nothing stand. You have to venerate all of it, and if you don’t venerate some part of it, you’re an evil ist-phobe.

But there’s massive differentiation to make within this grouping. You’ve got the sane gays, and then you’ve got the leather-dog-mask-in-public gays. But most gays manage to keep it in the bedroom and don’t ask you to participate in their gayness. I don’t have any problem with the LGB just doing their own thing. Whatever works for them. Same with other sexual attractions and fetishes - I don’t really care if someone gets off from pouring hot grits in their pants, as long as it’s private and consensual.

That’s in stark contrast to the TQP++ who demand public participation in their sexual identities. They get off on the validation.

 

[AMHOLIO]

However, the more frightening idea is that nobody is really in control. Nobody really knows what they're doing, and your enemies are just as clueless and blind as you are. That makes things a lot scarier and more difficult to deal with. If nobody is in control, well, how do you get control? What plan do you actually have? How can you somehow reassert control when there is none?

This is also a good point for understanding people in general. If you see some people dogmatically hate a side which upon analysis is less of an organized movement and more of a shitting the bed clusterfuck, this is partially it.

There's also absolution in this: the [blank] and their supporters are responsible for my and society's problems, I am not at fault (or at least not entirely). Insert "the gooberment wants to kill me, a trans person, so under sjw doctorine I am oppressed therefore absolved of sin" here. This also factors into other types: you could be the "Jews are responsible for all of society and mine's problems" type, and say you can't get a job because the Jewman keeping you down. It's another external locus of control, saying your flaws are out of control and you can jerk off freely or whatever.

I think what's happening now is the government is trying desperately to get on the beast's good side, to try and subdue it and bring it back under their control, but it's not working. The beast doesn't give a shit and is just continuing to eat whatever it sees.

The political ideology version of Godzilla!

It's been like this since the 2000s. To Christcucks, troonery is just another way to push gay people into the closet when all else fails. Troons are what homophobes think gay people are (perverse freaks in denial of basic reality), so it's not surprising that they tolerate troons as "good gays attempting to live a virtuous heterosexual lifestyle".

I get annoyed when people insist this wouldn't happen if Jesus and or conservative values were in play: maybe not to the same extent, but people love to try to make what relgion sees as a sin into a genetic fault or defect. This way, their genes failed in a freak acciedent and it is a random misfortune instead of a moral failing on you as a parent and the child alwsys going to hell for certain. There's crazies on both sides, the conservatives are more in control of them now since leftism gets people attention and attentionwhores flock there, but say it was the 50s or 80s and they'd be full of Hasans and Vaushes instead of just partially occupied by Ralphs and Fuentes. It's lucky, in a sense. I wish I could help get my football team party under more control.

we're on the brink of world war,

I feel you but hey've been saying that since before I was born. I'll believe it when big war actually happens.

That’s in stark contrast to the TQP++ who demand public participation in their sexual identities. They get off on the validation.

Strangely holds true whether the P is Polyamory or Pedos. At least the poly people are more annoying and much less horrifying.

 

[deermeat]

I wonder.... So if someone struggles with psychosis and thus starts thinking theyre a tranny, do they ever "come back" and go "holy shit, who has I been letting do this to me the whole time" or is the troon cult strong enough for them to keep going forward?
Considering the guy I knew who trooned out deals with psychosis, I wonder if thats at play and if he'll ever become self aware. Hes like a different person now, worse in every way. Getting cucked by the most bottom tier people imaginable. Yeah its a fetish for him but still. Part of me truly believes that he believes in it which is insane.

Schizos be damned.

 

[Kumquat]

I wonder.... So if someone struggles with psychosis and thus starts thinking theyre a tranny, do they ever "come back" and go "holy shit, who has I been letting do this to me the whole time" or is the troon cult strong enough for them to keep going forward?
Considering the guy I knew who trooned out deals with psychosis, I wonder if thats at play and if he'll ever become self aware. Hes like a different person now, worse in every way. Getting cucked by the most bottom tier people imaginable. Yeah its a fetish for him but still. Part of me truly believes that he believes in it which is insane.

Schizos be damned.

The sunk cost fallacy is strong with trannies, and nearly inescapable once you've gotten the cock chop. I don't think there is ever any going back for any of them except the very brave.

Think about how many relationships are destroyed by trooning out. Your family, your friends, your roommates, your acquaintances... All those bridges are burnt and gone. All that's left is the hug box of trannies on Reddit and maybe a few handmaidens. If they ever decide to give it up and detransition, they'll lose those people too.

Even if you somehow manage to regain old, lost relationships, if you've already gotten the surgeries, you're basically fucked. Your chances of returning to a normal life are effectively zero. It's why the suicide rate is so absurdly high; the problems of being mentally ill are only compounded by the horrifying realization that you've fucked up your life, permanently, and you did it in pursuit of a lie.

 

[TruffleSpark]

The sunk cost fallacy is strong with trannies, and nearly inescapable once you've gotten the cock chop. I don't think there is ever any going back for any of them except the very brave.

There's public facing troons like Scott Newgent and Corinna Cohn who are open about how much they regret their transition, and are very critical of trans ideology. Yet they still insist on calling themselves transsexuals, and they still believe that they have ceased to be a woman/man by virtue of getting their genitals mutilated. They hate the ideology, but the sunk cost fallacy is so strong they still can't bring themselves to leave the ideology.

 

[Faggy Blanket]

I wonder about those MTFs who manage to marry and baby-trap unsuspecting straight women before trooning out. I'm not talking about the middle-aged hons who keep a lid on their fetish until their kids are teenagers, but rather the men who seemingly regress and troon out immediately after learning their wife has a baby on the way. Hell, I wonder why having a child makes some men fly off the handle, instead of stepping up to the plate as a father and provider. Is it because he's no longer the center of attention in the relationship? Is it NPD showing its true colors? Every time I see a story from a trans widow or one of those horrifying hons, I wonder how women can prevent this from happening to them. How do these women enter a relationship with Jake, a seemingly normal finance/tech bro, and end up with Jessica, a nightmare transbian who dresses like a hooker and has narcissistic tantrums instead of being a fucking father? How can women detect the traits early on, so they don't end up pregnant and married to a perverted useless manchild, picking up after him and being a spiritual single mother?

 

[Susanna]

Is it because he's no longer the center of attention in the relationship?

That's my theory. When it's just the couple, each partner will be devoted solely to the other one. When a baby enters the family, the mother in particular is now dividing her attention between husband and baby, and especially during the first year baby will be a lot more important to her. She's also going to be under a lot more stress, not just from caring for the baby but also from returning to work and trying to fix everything her substitute screwed up (or worse, if the substitute didn't screw up and she's now being sidelined in favour of her replacement) after a few months away (while also having a baby to care for), which probably means husband is now treated quite differently by her. Babies kill fragile marriages all the time.

Once the baby is old enough the father can take on a bigger role, letting him bond with the baby too. I think if the relationship endures to that point the risk of husband trooning out for attention drops quite significantly. But while his wife is focused on the baby, he's obviously going to be under some stress himself, and I think a pre-existing porn addiction (which, honestly, just about every man suffers from in an age where accessing it is as simple as going to /r/teensluts or whatever on your phone) turning into a compulsion to troon out isn't that weird a consequence. Think about it, he's daily around a mother and her baby, and sees how much love and attention she's getting, while he himself is expected to provide and support more than ever, while not receiving as much love and attention back as he's gotten used to. From that perspective motherhood probably seems like a pretty sweet deal.