Ive been thinking a little bit. Usually when we talk about troons that are deep in the cult we tend to be very pesimistic (with really good reason) seems that there is no way to them to get back to reality, and yet, detransitioners are a thing, i know it is a small minority within a small minority, but maybe detransitioners should be studied further.
From what i see from this kind of thread or threads like losing people to transgenderism, many express that in retrospective there were signals of those people wanting to troon out before they even troon out, some act out when they recognize those signals and at least theres something to try to stop or at least delay people from trooning out, like getting out of the internet, stop watching porn and so on.
But what if someone is so deep into transgenderism? is it a lost case? in most cases, yeah, but yet, detransitioners exist.
Theres signals of people pre-troon out, but what would be the signals of someone who wants to stop being trans? maybe knowing about these would be good to help people, it might sound optimistic and spergy but maybe there is a solution to this ideology even for hardcore troons, we got so good at recognizing patterns for someone who might troon out, maybe we should try and do the same with those that detransition
I adopt the mentality of addiction.
Some addicts are addicts to escape pain from trauma. Some addicts are addicts to escape feelings of inadequacy caused by depression. Those addicts are the most likely to get better.
But there are plenty of addicts who are addicts, but they are also cluster Bs and addicts who either start off psychotic or end up that way. They will never get better unless they are forced into it, and even then they'll always suffer in some way. They usually end up killing themself (not always by direct suicide, sometimes by accident), killing someone else, or succumbing to the consequences of addiction. Maybe in extremely rare cases, they can be helped. But there's a reason insane asylums existed. There;s a reason why theres a high amount of people in prison.
Look how many people die from addiction, Obesity, drugs, alcoholics, etc. Look how many end up in jail, something not often talked about is how many porn addicts commit horrible crimes.
Troonery is a community built upon enabling addiction, based on an ideology centered around narcissism and psychosis. Every single troon has one or two addictions, maybe more. And because its a cult, they are discouraged from seeking any outside help that doesn't affirm their delusions. They are told that those people want them dead.
Its a mix between supporting both psychosis and cluster B behavoir, the two things that cause someone to be unlikely to get any actual help.
And yet like you said, detransitoners exist. But also, just like addiction itself, not every troon is inherently psychotic or a cluster B. And amoung detransitioners, like anyone trying to recover from addiction, it's usually people who transitoned in order to escae pain and trauma, or overall inadequacy. It's people who truly did not know what they were getting into,. Much like cult victims.
A lot of troons, the majority of them, are too narcisstic or too delusional to accept detransitonining because overall they are too narcisstic or delusional to accept fault in any other facet in their life.
