Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

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Something I have trouble understanding is that all this troon spaces, and all the people within them, are so unhappy and yet do nothing to change their situation. It's just a bunch of unhappy people sitting in Discords, complaining to each other about how hard life is, consuming nothing but trans-friendly media by heckin' valid trans creators, and forming a whirlpool of sucking despair. In between the gooning sessions, of course. It's also bewildering to see the combination of troonism and alters or whatever other 'cool' online mental conditions interacting in the same space. I wonder how many of them would improve mentally if they didn't spend hours and hours basically marinating in an unending stream of mental illness.
They develop the belief that trooning out will solve all their problems by itself. The delusion is backed up by the “euphoria” of indulging their fetish, which of course fades like any other euphoric experience. The whole thing’s got twisted - it’s gone from “you cannot be happy until you are living as your authentic self” to “living as your authentic self will make you happy.”

And then, when they’re online, miserable, they convince themselves that it would be far worse if they were still men. While their fellow troons marinate them with thoughts of hopelessness and suicide.
 
They develop the belief that trooning out will solve all their problems by itself. The delusion is backed up by the “euphoria” of indulging their fetish, which of course fades like any other euphoric experience. The whole thing’s got twisted - it’s gone from “you cannot be happy until you are living as your authentic self” to “living as your authentic self will make you happy.”

And then, when they’re online, miserable, they convince themselves that it would be far worse if they were still men. While their fellow troons marinate them with thoughts of hopelessness and suicide.
It's not surprising that there seems to be a connection between "incel communities" and transitioning when you put it like that.

I generally think there's a bit of confusion around what being "happy" actually means. As in there's a lot of people who genuinely equate being happy to hedonistic pleasure. Which is why troons and other degenerates chase euphoria. People get told that they should seek to be happy, a subset think that means chasing pleasurable highs rather than being mostly content and grateful with your place and progress in life.
 
It's not surprising that there seems to be a connection between "incel communities" and transitioning when you put it like that.

I generally think there's a bit of confusion around what being "happy" actually means. As in there's a lot of people who genuinely equate being happy to hedonistic pleasure. Which is why troons and other degenerates chase euphoria. People get told that they should seek to be happy, a subset think that means chasing pleasurable highs rather than being mostly content and grateful with your place and progress in life.
It’s interesting isn’t it, chasing happiness will rarely lead to happiness, it comes as more of a byproduct of other things going on in your life. Unfortunately they rarely have anything else going on except chasing a high.
 
I got asked my pronouns for the first time in a long time, which actually caught me off guard. That being said it was in a gayborhood but I don't even remember being asked my pronouns even with my hair short.

I guess it goes to show how much you just like... eventually forget about trans stuff if you're a lot less online and/or in any lgbt spaces. I focus on different problems now but it doesn't feel like its this thing controlling my life anymore. We're all gonna make it, sisters.
 
I guess it goes to show how much you just like... eventually forget about trans stuff if you're a lot less online and/or in any lgbt spaces. I focus on different problems now but it doesn't feel like its this thing controlling my life anymore. We're all gonna make it, sisters.
The truth is and what I've wanted to rant about for a while now is that none of this matters offline. I think it's good advice to take a break from Der Kulturkampf once in a while and realize that the vast majority of society just doesn't give a shit.
I can't think of myself of "transphobic" because they don't scare me. I don't care how people live their lives, I'm not out to gas them all and plan on a final solution. I want people to do what's best for themselves (even if I doubt surgical and hormonal mutilation is the best way forward) Staying glued to thinking trannies run and are ruining every facet of your life does more to hurt you than them, leave that obsession to the latinx retards on Xitter. But really, being a kayfabe anti-troon online is just giving them what they want; a victimhood complex (not to say I disagree with being someone like Rowling, and socially holding onto your values IRL, but again the Internet is just the Internet)
Remember that most don't actually go through with it, less so actually commit to surgery, even less so have been doing it for many years without thinking of giving up, and practically zero will ever be a man/woman. Why waste energy telling them what they already know?
Live and let live, and laugh at idiots online as the problem sorts itself out :smug:
 
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It's a common theme among trannies for them to have no real-life friends outside Discord, be unemployed, not able to drive, etc.

I think being trans is a form of escapism from having to confront the real world, as well as a convenient excuse for why they're failing at life. An MtF unemployed acquaintance told me verbatim that he can't apply to jobs because he'd "just be discriminated against". How convenient. It wouldn't be that hard to just fucking "boymode" at your job (wearing male clothing and not ree-ing over pronouns).

I'm not a hedonistic loser! I don't have money or a job because of THE PATRIARCHAL CISHETERONORMATIVE WHITE XENOPHOBIC MAGA TRANSMISOGYNIST SEX-NEGATIVE KINKSHAMING EXCLUSIONARY BIGOTED BINARYIST RACIST SYSTEM! America is so awful. Anyway, let me consoom my Chinese Genshin Impact waifus.
 
It's a common theme among trannies for them to have no real-life friends outside Discord, be unemployed, not able to drive, etc.

I think being trans is a form of escapism from having to confront the real world, as well as a convenient excuse for why they're failing at life. An MtF unemployed acquaintance told me verbatim that he can't apply to jobs because he'd "just be discriminated against". How convenient. It wouldn't be that hard to just fucking "boymode" at your job (wearing male clothing and not ree-ing over pronouns).

I'm not a hedonistic loser! I don't have money or a job because of THE PATRIARCHAL CISHETERONORMATIVE WHITE XENOPHOBIC MAGA TRANSMISOGYNIST SEX-NEGATIVE KINKSHAMING EXCLUSIONARY BIGOTED BINARYIST RACIST SYSTEM! America is so awful. Anyway, let me consoom my Chinese Genshin Impact waifus.
There’s an interesting observation in “The Courage to be Disliked” by Kishimi/Koga on Otakus, using an example of a man who doesn’t leave his parents house because of stomachache, so can’t live a normal life. They suggest that it could be psychosomatic, the brain creating a reason to stay comfortable and not bother with the hardships of reality and dealing with other people. I think trans can fit into this, sure a lot of it is just the fetish driving all their decisions, but the ones that stay home and use it as an excuse never to apply for a job etc seem like Otakuism taken to the extreme.
 
People get told that they should seek to be happy, a subset think that means chasing pleasurable highs rather than being mostly content and grateful with your place and progress in life.
I sometimes think that the reason this issue seems to be so much worse in the US than other places is that it was built in from the start.
Your forefathers literally wrote it into the Declaration of Independence, as if it was as important as the right to defend yourself, to speak up about injustice, and to be treated equally within the law.
So the right to seek happiness, and therefore the right to be happy is enshrined into American culture.
In other countries however, the emphasis is on the importance of say, sacrifice for your community, cooperation, or putting your family obligations above your personal wants.
The idea of Responsibility over Freedom.
It seems almost as though Americans are being given cultural 'permission/encouragement' to be selfish.
 
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The way this gender ideology thing works reminds me of those anti-AI systems websites use where they serve crawlers with bullshit webpages full of nonsense so the crawlers used to train them get trained on it. And since they have links to more bullshit, they get "trapped" on it.

It's like that but for autists, who get explanations that leave more questions open for more bullshit explanations (e.g. those posts about "I get a boner so I think I'm AGP" with an answer "oh no, it's a gender boner")
 
Your forefathers literally wrote it into the Constitution
There is nothing in the US constitution about happiness. You're thinking of the declaration of independence, which uses "pursuit of happiness" as a compromise term for the right to seek and own property. It also had a rather different meaning back then, being something like the attainment of a worthy and fulfilling life. It didn't mean the banal seeking of comfort and pleasure that people often interpret it as today.
 
There is nothing in the US constitution about happiness. You're thinking of the declaration of independence, which uses "pursuit of happiness" as a compromise term for the right to seek and own property. It also had a rather different meaning back then, being something like the attainment of a worthy and fulfilling life. It didn't mean the banal seeking of comfort and pleasure that people often interpret it as today.
Sorry. Yes. I was talking about the Declaration of Independence.
I know that wasn't in any way what they meant by 'seek happiness', but I feel like quite a few modern Americans act like it was meant in the modern form of 'your happiness is one of the most important things in your life'.
 
I don't know if it really properly belongs in A&N or here, it feels equally relevant to both, so I'll just do the rambling here since troons are its lynchpin.

So. You hear all the talk on how Democrats have completely driven off White men, even starting to have serious inroads against them on keeping Latino men and even a stripe of black men in the 2024 election? Basically, they lost the Guy Vote. And even a ton of people within the party are facepalming at recent attempts to woo them being complete farces - like the Hogg vice-chair guy clearly being cut from power for his sex/skin color only to be proven completely right for calling out the gerontocracy when one of the committee heads croaked in time for a needed vote, or that obese Latinx queer who got tapped by the DNC to reach out to young men only to just be rejected from FOUR different frats to speak at? Basically a complete public embarrassment showing the party has zero clue on how to actually reach out to and campaign on what a major group and core population actually wants, right?

I said that spiel for a reason, so roll with me here.

I think there's going to be, if not already, an internal civil war for the party's soul between older Dems who actually want to be able to win elections and get their policies set, versus the IDpol types they let in in an attempt to tap the youth who not only are true believers in their crap, but now also have stakes in the wealth and power of the party apparatus and just as importantly, has energy the old establishment doesn't anymore. And troons are going to worm their way in with the other IDpols and make the whole LGBT shit a big campaign plank for the Dems based on "life or death! Dumpf is killing us!" once the IDpols win due to said youthful zealotry, since they are now very much aware how much the public hates them and want to force acceptance of their perversion.

And then once that happens you will see them inevitably begin to speak and act in ways that turn off a lot of normie women from the Dems the same way normie men were, talking about how much society needs to focus on troons' "needs" with the implications that women are innately "bigoted" against troons and be punished for it - even when it becomes obvious in subtle or mask-off moments the women are the ones actually being discriminated against. Because these IDpol types cannot fathom that they've supported a movement that pits a would-be selfish, privileged minority against a majority that ISN'T getting any special treatment like what that privileged group claims it actually has.

I openly admit this is "give me rainbows" or negative stickers tier, don't worry! It's thoughts on the potential future after all. But I do think the Dem party is going to suffer even more when the culture war-types win out against the remaining older types with some sanity in them, and that means once gone the Dems are going to double down on the IDpol stuff that increasingly privileges miniscule demographics.... and if THAT happens, it's gonna have troonacy be a major part of it with how much troons are again screeching against right-wingers and seemingly an easy, organized bloc of votes to pick up and bigger than they seem with their giant online footprint.... and that'll lead to a flood of peaking as tons of women realize what voting Dems will mean in that case as their worst nightmare of being told to support perverted men lording over them or else actually occurs. I'd be lying if I said I didn't hope it would happen in a way, so society at large can finally see what a toxic, evil ideology troonism is and it can finally collapse more or less for good for the generational future.
 
You guys aren't gonna believe this, but I predicted that the liberal establishment would realize their mistake with Dylan Mulvany and start using passing troons like Hunter Schafer to push their movement.
 
They develop the belief that trooning out will solve all their problems by itself. The delusion is backed up by the “euphoria” of indulging their fetish, which of course fades like any other euphoric experience. The whole thing’s got twisted - it’s gone from “you cannot be happy until you are living as your authentic self” to “living as your authentic self will make you happy.”

And then, when they’re online, miserable, they convince themselves that it would be far worse if they were still men. While their fellow troons marinate them with thoughts of hopelessness and suicide.
Estrogen is a mood-boosting drug. They do experience a kind of high from it. They interpret this feeling as validation for their trans thoughts. It's really easy to dismiss any external bad things like discrimination as people "not understanding". Estrogen is a mind-altering drug and that aspect is not talked about enough.
 
Estrogen is a mood-boosting drug.
How much of that is placebo effect? The same is said for T. But that only is in the starting phase before the wreck exogenous wrong sex hormone use makes of your body gets going. I really think the altered state aspect of it causes a sort of "I'm not feeling the way I used to feel and that's a good thing" effect that only lasts so long more so than either hormone being genuinely mood enhancing.
 
You guys aren't gonna believe this, but I predicted that the liberal establishment would realize their mistake with Dylan Mulvany and start using passing troons like Hunter Schafer to push their movement.
He doesn’t really pass though and twink death is gonna hit him soon. If he’s the best they can offer, it’s not enough.
 
Something I have trouble understanding is that all this troon spaces, and all the people within them, are so unhappy and yet do nothing to change their situation. It's just a bunch of unhappy people sitting in Discords, complaining to each other about how hard life is, consuming nothing but trans-friendly media by heckin' valid trans creators, and forming a whirlpool of sucking despair. In between the gooning sessions, of course. It's also bewildering to see the combination of troonism and alters or whatever other 'cool' online mental conditions interacting in the same space. I wonder how many of them would improve mentally if they didn't spend hours and hours basically marinating in an unending stream of mental illness.
This post and the fact that its "pride month" makes me want to double post this from the SJW arts thread that is sharing a lot of tranny art. This is why trans pride will never make sense even if being trans was a real thing. Seriously think about it, I'm proud to get endless dysphoria over very little things, being born in the wrong body, and having to take drugs for the rest of my life otherwise I'll off myself. Is this really an existence that you want to be proud of living? Imagine if schizophrenia people claim they had pride in their mental health problems. If the trans movement was more about accepting that you can never be the opposite sex and being proud of being a gender non conforming person then that would be something that most of society could get behind. Instead, we have to feed these people's delusions that they are totally changing their sex (And no, I'm going to fall for the TRA word play that they are changing their gender and not sex because surgery would be pointless if this wasn't about sex) and being proud of being gender confused. How is that a proud existence?
 
They develop the belief that trooning out will solve all their problems by itself. The delusion is backed up by the “euphoria” of indulging their fetish, which of course fades like any other euphoric experience. The whole thing’s got twisted - it’s gone from “you cannot be happy until you are living as your authentic self” to “living as your authentic self will make you happy.”
They're lost in life and nail it all onto "i didn't have tits in my teens". Then they troon out, do their lingerie shopping, follow the goth gf guidelines, post some pics online for their enablers/chasers, and then kill themselves when they realize "Oh the dopamine stopped coming. Now I'm just a freak in a dress". Either they double down and attend orgy parties or they call quits on life. I've just recently seen a chiseled man succumb to this; "Did you notice I'm a lot more talkative and emotive now?", yeah cause you're bouncing between dicks and parties. You're high on hormones as if you were 17 and not 31. You've quit your hobbies and 'only ironically' joke about the endgame not mattering cause you're gonna kys, as if that justifies throwing away the potential of a life in the most easy mode country on earth.
Estrogen is a mood-boosting drug. They do experience a kind of high from it. They interpret this feeling as validation for their trans thoughts. It's really easy to dismiss any external bad things like discrimination as people "not understanding". Estrogen is a mind-altering drug and that aspect is not talked about enough.
The same kind of people who think they can resist being put under. "Heh, hormones? Animal dna? Instinctual urges? I'm too good for that" *ruins their life by consuming sissy skittles and getting hooked on masturbation*.
 
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