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At the top of my head, Smaug from the Rankin Bass film might qualify, The Dragon Prince sports a wide variety of dragons, Wakfu and the Dofus movies, I think the Wyverns from The Black Cauldron, that shitty Dragon Flyz cartoon that was made to sell the boy version of Sky Dancer toys, and I guess Maleficent in the third act of Sleeping Beauty. I’m sure there’s more, but I can’t think of any at the moment.Are we ever getting a cartoon with occidental, not Barney-styled, talking, sapient and not catlike dragon, I wonder. It is like magical triangle, only "pick three of five" for most of the part.
If I recall correctly, the animation for Haku‘s dragon form was made from all new references - Miyazaki even dragged the entire animation team out on a field trip to a local animal shelter/vet because he was appalled to hear some of his animators had never seen a dog up close before.Wouldn't surprise me if that was somewhat tied into Princess Mononoke, maybe they had some unused reference stuff for facial animation of their divine wolves lying around?
Also, never mind me, best dragon design coming through:
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Grisu. The dragon that wants to become a firefighter when he's grown up. Now that's just an adorable design with a funny premise.
I think he went with a dog as reference for the face because dogs have an ideal long snout look without needing to get ahold of a wild animal or looking to reptile. And Eastern dragons have always been depicted as being an amalgamation of multiple animals since their inception (antlers of a deer, talons of an eagle, body of a snake, etc.), so it makes sense to do the same for the head.
I think that’s mostly why Sisu looks so bad: she’s just a 3D version of one of the dragons from My Little Pony but with an elongated mid-section with no regard for her other proportions. Combine that with the Good Dinosaur-esque disconnect between the highly detailed texture works & attempts at realistic backgrounds/lighting clashing with the cartoony proportions of the models (especially when it comes to the faces) and you got a design that doesn’t even look like it belongs in same animated world, much less a believable animal.