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AnOminous said:
How would anyone know there is no God? It's not like the origin of the universe is actually even determined definitively. I don't think there's even sufficiently conclusive information to state it as a probability. And even Dawkins never outright stated there is definitely no God, it is just his opinion that it is so unlikely that he acts intellectually superior to those who choose to believe in a Creator. The fact he doesn't definitively state that is because even he knows how foolish that would be.

There are really two fundamental issues in atheism, and one is existential and the other epistemological. One is whether there is a God or not, and some people stake out a strong position on that issue. The other issue is whether the existence or nonexistence of God is even knowable. My personal opinion is a strong no. I don't know and you don't either.

But hey, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
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That always reminds me of my father's opinion and stance. See he's both a man of faith and science. For instance he believes that science is merely explaining what God did. Honestly my father is the reason I never knew about the whole science vs religion debate until high school or at least thought about it. Since growing up he always seem to believe in both surprisingly well.
 
The Empirical Bogey said:
Ephraim and Erika did nothing wrong. Trust me I've played TSS thoroughly. Coomers ruin everything. (Unless you had another game in mind)
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Bit late, but they're referring to FE4, where it's a central plot point that everyone spergs about even though it's the villains doing it. Long story short, doomsday cult convinces a guy to commit incest to birth the anti-christ. It's ambiguous whether the guy knew or not, but he ends up being a villain anyway.
 
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I’m pretty sure that is not how international police customs works.
 
Rusty Metal Skull Gun said:
Like @Foghorns at a Funeral says, it's not really atheism, it's "fuck you Dad" nihilism.

/r/atheism is such a depressing place. I've just been reading their article arguing that Jesus didn't exist (https://old.reddit.com/r/atheism/wiki/historicaljesus), which no serious scholar believes. And it's all such sophist nonsense - like trannies, they have intelligence without the wisdom to go with it. There's no mention of Occam's Razor, i.e. the odds are that St. Paul didn't just invent Jesus, or the fact that there's continuity with the early Church and the modern Church. It's all pseudo-intellectual.


It's been a while, but IIRC they didn't really want the "probably", but thought they had to put it in to appease the Advertising Standards Agency.
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A lot of the desperate attempts to to prove the foundations of Christianity wrong, all end up a word salad of buzzwords, speculation and a lot of for lack of a better word bigotry.
It always devolves in to stupid level gotchas about sowing seeds, hating the fig tree and mixed threads. A lot of that stems from the absolute spastic belief that you must do as the bible says word for word. Hitchens and the other retards pioneered those lines of augments by adapting the rules for radicals rule 4. Make the enemy live up to their own rules. No Christian church on the planet says anything about following rules about mixing 2 types of threads in clothing.
 
Foghorns at a Funeral said:
A lot of the desperate attempts to to prove the foundations of Christianity wrong, all end up a word salad of buzzwords, speculation and a lot of for lack of a better word bigotry.
It always devolves in to stupid level gotchas about sowing seeds, hating the fig tree and mixed threads. A lot of that stems from the absolute spastic belief that you must do as the bible says word for word. Hitchens and the other retards pioneered those lines of augments by adapting the rules for radicals rule 4. Make the enemy live up to their own rules. No Christian church on the planet says anything about following rules about mixing 2 types of threads in clothing.
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That's because it's part of the old Law, which has been superseded. That argument would only work on people who don't know their theology... which might well have been what he was going for.
 
Foghorns at a Funeral said:
A lot of the desperate attempts to to prove the foundations of Christianity wrong, all end up a word salad of buzzwords, speculation and a lot of for lack of a better word bigotry.
It always devolves in to stupid level gotchas about sowing seeds, hating the fig tree and mixed threads. A lot of that stems from the absolute spastic belief that you must do as the bible says word for word. Hitchens and the other retards pioneered those lines of augments by adapting the rules for radicals rule 4. Make the enemy live up to their own rules. No Christian church on the planet says anything about following rules about mixing 2 types of threads in clothing.
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Atheist's arguments always depend on them making up "their own rules as truth" and basing every argument on that rule, which also made them guilty of circular arguments.
Hitchen's fans has always shown off what is dubbed Hitchen's Razor, where he says "Anything that is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".
But it in itself it's a moronic statement, because all you need is reply back "then what is your evidence for this assertion?" and they immediately fumbles and try to deflect the rebuttal. The thing about euphorics is one must always keep in mind, they are not there to find out the truth, they are there to feel intellectually superior by having the "atheist" status.
 
Rusty Metal Skull Gun said:
That's because it's part of the old Law, which has been superseded. That argument would only work on people who don't know their theology... which might well have been what he was going for.
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Also you notice how most Bible bashing from Reddit atheists comes in the form of attacking passages condemning dietary restrictions in Leviticus and condemnations of homosexuality in the same book, even though the dietary restrictions are superseded in Acts 10. Either that or making fun of Genesis for talking about how God created the world in seven days. Like I have yet to see an atheist whine about a Bible book like Habakkuk or Jude. A lot of Reddit atheism is just parroting what everyone else on the sub is saying, and they really don't do any intensive research into the subject, and I mean like being patient enough to read beyond the first five books of the Old Testament or actually looking at Hebrew-Greek Bible reference works like Strong's or Thayer's.

Most Reddit atheists don't know theology PERIOD. They think a book originally written in ancient Hebrew and first century Greek is going to have the same thing (in languages where definitions can get up to six different things per word) translated in 1600s English, with a lot less definitions for a given word. Why do you think they want to cite Old Testament (Jewish) laws to attack New Testament (Christian) people? These people are FAR less intelligent than they think they are. They're mentally stuck at fourteen years old, if most of them aren't already.
 
Oats12345 said:
That always reminds me of my father's opinion and stance. See he's both a man of faith and science. For instance he believes that science is merely explaining what God did. Honestly my father is the reason I never knew about the whole science vs religion debate until high school or at least thought about it. Since growing up he always seem to believe in both surprisingly well.
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This is why it's a hoot to ask them whether they believe the Catholic priest Fr. Lemaître's theory about the origin of the universe.

And when they furiously respond, ask them why they don't believe in the Big Bang.
 
Abyssal Bulwark said:
Also you notice how most Bible bashing from Reddit atheists comes in the form of attacking passages condemning dietary restrictions in Leviticus and condemnations of homosexuality in the same book, even though the dietary restrictions are superseded in Acts 10. Either that or making fun of Genesis for talking about how God created the world in seven days. Like I have yet to see an atheist whine about a Bible book like Habakkuk or Jude. A lot of Reddit atheism is just parroting what everyone else on the sub is saying, and they really don't do any intensive research into the subject, and I mean like being patient enough to read beyond the first five books of the Old Testament or actually looking at Hebrew-Greek Bible reference works like Strong's or Thayer's.

Most Reddit atheists don't know theology PERIOD. They think a book originally written in ancient Hebrew and first century Greek is going to have the same thing (in languages where definitions can get up to six different things per word) translated in 1600s English, with a lot less definitions for a given word. Why do you think they want to cite Old Testament (Jewish) laws to attack New Testament (Christian) people? These people are FAR less intelligent than they think they are. They're mentally stuck at fourteen years old, if most of them aren't already.
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I seem to remember that Dawkins wrote The God Delusion deliberately without doing any research into Christian theology, which is obviously a retarded thing to do. It's like they're proud of their ignorance.
 
Abyssal Bulwark said:
they really don't do any intensive research into the subject, and I mean like being patient enough to read beyond the first five books of the Old Testament or actually looking at Hebrew-Greek Bible reference works like Strong's or Thayer's.
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Right, because if a person spends months carefully piecing through texts looking for inconsistencies, the other side is totally going to admit that the person is correct and religion will be forever vanquished.
They aren't just going to come up with even more excuses for why nothing in the bible applies unless it's convenient, and if only you weren't LAZY you'd go away and read even more dry bullshit by random dudes that this time will prove how laughably wrong you are and how right I am.

And then if they have the dedication to, well the translation isn't right. Now you have to go learn hebrew so you can read it in the original text. It's endless opaqueness and runaround, because the truth is that people believe because they want to believe, which is where we started to begin with.

Really the primary thing that's ridiculous about these kinds of euphoric athiests is that they bother to argue about something that exists beyond physical logic, and isn't even worth disproving even if they could, because they're immature, insecure, and egotistical.
If Christian religious beliefs help a person to grow and make their life better than that's great, whatever framework provides a sense of structure and meaning. And if it does help them, it would be incredibly cruel to dispel them of their beliefs even if you could. Let them believe.

That said faith is also about not needing to prove the doubters wrong, and when the bible thumpers try to do the same thing as the euphorics by demanding how absolutely, obviously correct their beliefs are and anyone who disagrees is ignorant, it's exactly as clownish.
Ultimately if someone's really secure in their positions, religious or secular, they shouldn't feel that compelled to need to prove them to other people. If nothing else they'll do that through living out their beliefs in their daily life.
 
There's a "hobby drama" sub that I keep bookmarked because you occasionally get a good writeup. They have a weekly discussion thread that is hell - this week I actually scrolled through and discovered that someone invoked the Farms (webcomic artist?). A ton of posts were deleted and everyone in the thread is acting like they saw a ghost. Capture.PNG

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AnOminous said:
How would anyone know there is no God? It's not like the origin of the universe is actually even determined definitively. I don't think there's even sufficiently conclusive information to state it as a probability. And even Dawkins never outright stated there is definitely no God, it is just his opinion that it is so unlikely that he acts intellectually superior to those who choose to believe in a Creator. The fact he doesn't definitively state that is because even he knows how foolish that would be.

There are really two fundamental issues in atheism, and one is existential and the other epistemological. One is whether there is a God or not, and some people stake out a strong position on that issue. The other issue is whether the existence or nonexistence of God is even knowable. My personal opinion is a strong no. I don't know and you don't either.

But hey, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
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Yes but they raised money on the basis that they were going to launch a massive advertising campaign saying there was no God, and stick it to all the bigoted Christians (Islam wasn't mentioned for some reason). Then once they had the cash they chickened, and without actually having to be told by the Advertising Standards Authority (despite what the crazy woman running the campaign implied ) preemptively changed the wording to 'probably'.
 
KingFrampt said:
Not even an uncommon take, which is hilarious

Check out this video from Boy Boy (featuring famous YouTuber I Did A Thing) where they lick the boots of the North Korean government

https://youtube.com/watch?v=86q5FM-qHTw
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In a country of 300 million, there’s going to be some deaths of people in police custody. You hardly need a PHD in sociology to grasp this.

Some of them may even be because of overzealous policing, as rare as that is.

But you really need to be as mouthbreathing retard to believe that American police is worse than cops in an average third world country.

Nevermind a communist police state where you can go to a labor camp for years just because a cop is looking for a bribe and chose you.
 
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