reddit General

[Glowing In The Streets]

Announced today, zoom call is at 9 AM PST on a fucking Wednesday

Imagine hurriedly texting everyone seeing if anybody would pick up your shift 'cause you gotta go to the internet reddit roundtable.

>implying jannies have a job
dog walker has no shifts

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Does Reddit not allow VPN usage?

Technically yes, but like their stance on TOR good luck getting your account actually working because it'll shadowban you from the get go so you can't post in subreddits to gain karma to prove you're an actual user, so by the time you figure it out you've wasted time on reddit already so either have to appeal to an admin or just delete your account.

Which means if you're in need of a niche tech support issue and the software's forums have closed down because reddit is cheaper, good luck creating an account and getting an answer this year.

 

[bremer]

Many of the powermod-led subs do not appear to be participating yet, so time will see if they can get enough subs blacked out to cause a problem. Regardless of who wins, we win.

The powermods are reddit plants, they won't join the protest. Niche gaming communities and overly specific image subs (like /r/heckinpupparinos or something) blacking out won't do shit, so we're going to be entertained come July 1st.

 

[Staffy]

I don't know if announcing that the blackout will be only 48 hours will make a difference to try and force a backpedaling from reddit. Is like telling that you're gonna stand for an hour in a fast-food restaurant to force a change in the menu.

Absolutely retarded protest, if you ask me.

This protest can't get any more Reddit. It has unwarranted delusions and stupidity written all over it and it shows they can't get enough of their gay website.

 

[Sperglord666]

Context: a holocaust survior is doing an AMA and is responding to someone asking if they see parallels in the modern world.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/13ygskg/i_am_holocaust_survivor_ben_lesser_i_am_a_94_year/jmmy1l7/?context=3

https://archive.is/OnOmm

I personally encourage trannies to shout insanity like this as loudly as possible. It shows normal people just how insane they are. This is a person who survived an extermination camp where they likely watched friends and family being led to the gas chamber and this crazy fuck thinks they are on the same level because they can't use the bathroom they want or show off his lady dick to a bunch of preschoolers.

This protest can't get any more Reddit. It has unwarranted delusions and stupidity written all over it and it shows they can't get enough of their gay website.

It can work if they actually get the big subreddit like news and videos, which would limit the amount of content on the reddit front page. I've kind of wondered if Reddit would resort to a "take over" were admins would override the moderators on those largers subreddits and have some of their employees act as paid moderators.

Here's a cope article from Arthur Chu refering to the last big subreddit revolt that was blamed for Ellen Pao leaving. https://archive.is/tlqVj

 

[BelUwUga]

I don't think the jannies understand that the third-party apps were largely parasitic, even though they're admittedly much better than the official reddit webshit app. They show their own ads, charge subscription fees, collect user data, and prevent reddit from effectively spying on users operating outside their app's trackers, and all for a small API fee. It must have been a decent grift, outdoing reddit soyware is pretty much trivial in every way, especially ux. I use redditisfun and I haven't noticed a change in years, it's basically free money while reddit does all the actual work.

I somewhat disagree and would frame it as mutualistic. In the early days of Reddit the first-party offering was not ideal. This could be near-completely remedied on desktop with RES. There was no first-party phone app so you had to use third-party. These third party applications would have cost a small fortune to implement in-house. Beyond the improvements themselves, it brought in a lot of free development support they could count on.

Going first-party would have been a monumental undertaking to do right. But if they actually seriously undertook these efforts they would be much better off. The launch of "new" reddit and the phone app literally couldn't have possibly been worse. They would have at least acted ethically as a business making this move.

Instead they poached a handful of devs, bought a phone app, and tried to create parallel innovation to get from what first-party reddit was to how most current users experienced it. Since they wouldn't nut up and tell third-parties to fuck off, they also had to play coy and could not directly copy some of the best solutions. Even if they could they lacked the internal depth to implement them correctly. They also had to publicly promise they wouldn't do what they're trying to indirectly do now.

Now they've been locked in to maintaining and integrating two systems for years now. Basic functionality in new reddit is largely aspirational. As a result they've been unable to bring much new to the table. What they do manage to bring survives less than a year as a rule. Even when they do function, they act more as agitation that Reddit will bring new dumb shit out while leaving known issues unacknowledged.

The API fee was low but the first-party support, or even competency, was non-existent. It was fair to the parties involved and a scrappier, younger Reddit really leaned on these people for survival. People were enthusiastic users of these third parties because they worked. They're going to remember why they went away. They won't tolerate the myriad issues still-present in Reddit's offerings that third parties had long since resolved.
TL;DR- they're trying to pick and choose the benefits from centralized and cooperative development, while carrying none of the drawbacks. This has fairly consistently worked out to Reddit's detriment.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

The powermods are reddit plants, they won't join the protest. Niche gaming communities and overly specific image subs (like /r/heckinpupparinos or something) blacking out won't do shit, so we're going to be entertained come July 1st.

This is a really good point. Also, the majority of the powermods mod the huge default subs as well. I'm pretty sure ones like pics, technology and twox have all announced plans to go dark. DrewiePedo, Tardfinn and Merari01 all have mod privileges for these ones and many others.

It wouldn't surprise me if these psychopathic abusers are working behind the scenes to tank the "Blackout" as they all have access to reddit's servers given to them by the company. Disruption on Reddit would hinder their child grooming.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I love how redditors love to say that redditors who use old.reddit are the most important power users who provide the most important content to the website and claim biased sources that back up this circular logic. That without them, the 15+ year old accounts that have provided just as little value as any other account, reddit would collapse overnight.

I'm sure there's a study by redditors that prove that they're the smartest, most tolerant and most good looking community across all social media websites.

It's the smugness I hate the most about reddit, the sheer idea that they're an enlightened group that's above the underclass who browse facebook and tiktok or act like the website is ethically more heccin wholesome than 4chan or here. The same website that is filled with monkey dancing ragebait and incredibly fucked up subreddits like rapekink2, daughtertraining, the billions of incest related subreddits and many more that are all one "are you 18" click away from some fucking bluey subreddit for kids.. The same website that promoted the_fappening, watchpeopledie, all the beastiality subs, extreme pornography etc.

And for all that, I hope that the admins grow a backbone and purge the absolute living shit out of these shitheads. Delete the old accounts that believe that they're the heart of soul of reddit so need to be respected, remove and delete the accounts of mods who are lashing out as if voluntarily moderating a website demands monetary compensation, tell third party app makers to fuck off etc.

 

[NoReturn]

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Bigtime jannies are apparently getting this message advertising a talk with spez, sodypop, and a panel of mods (presumably powermods favored by the admins). Will spez bend the knee or crack the whip and tell the autists to shut up or be replaced?
Also it's at 9AM Pacific time. They know the gigajannies don't have jobs, lmao.

Bets on how long until the Zoom link leaks?

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

And for all that, I hope that the admins grow a backbone and purge the absolute living shit out of these shitheads. Delete the old accounts that believe that they're the heart of soul of reddit so need to be respected, remove and delete the accounts of mods who are lashing out as if voluntarily moderating a website demands monetary compensation, tell third party app makers to fuck off etc.

Where the fuck do you guys keep getting this, that the admins are held hostage by the mods? I was in the thick of it until it became literally impossible to post on reddit without getting banned--the admins are directly responsible and those mods are there because the admins not only want them there, they either put them there or would have if they weren't already. The reddit administrators are not silly dupes, they are absolutely the worst sort of activist scumbags you can imagine. Go insult a moderator of 2XChromosomes and see what happens. You'll not get sub-banned, you'll get site-banned. Moderators don't have that power. Only the admins do. After 2012 and Ellen Pao they decided to interfere very heavily, and put out new rules for admins to not post at all under their admin accounts. Trust me, the admins were NOT happy that Trump shit was hitting the front page in 2012 when they were all politically against him and they felt he was bad for their business. The reddit admins actually made a big post on the site about immigration stuff because it made it harder for them to hire Indians from H1B1 since reddit didn't want to spend the money on Americans.

Aimee Challenor got hired because she was friendly with some people at reddit. You think that was just all a mix up or oopsie moment? Challenor got the foot in the door by knowing the right people. And if someone like Challenor is connected to the reddit admins, well, just dwell on that for a moment.

 

[Drama Fan]

Technically yes, but like their stance on TOR good luck getting your account actually working because it'll shadowban you from the get go so you can't post in subreddits to gain karma to prove you're an actual user, so by the time you figure it out you've wasted time on reddit already so either have to appeal to an admin or just delete your account.

Which means if you're in need of a niche tech support issue and the software's forums have closed down because reddit is cheaper, good luck creating an account and getting an answer this year.

Might depend on on the VPN. I've made 4 new accounts recently for purposes. Hadn't had any trouble getting a little karma on them or getting shadow-banned. I use Nord. If you're getting instantly caught, it's probably due to browser fingerprinting, cookies, or some other form of tracking.
I'd try it on a fresh browser, if you really want to make a new account.

 

[Retink Retunk]

Technically yes, but like their stance on TOR good luck getting your account actually working because it'll shadowban you from the get go so you can't post in subreddits to gain karma to prove you're an actual user, so by the time you figure it out you've wasted time on reddit already so either have to appeal to an admin or just delete your account.

Which means if you're in need of a niche tech support issue and the software's forums have closed down because reddit is cheaper, good luck creating an account and getting an answer this year.

That explains it.

Haven't been on Reddit in ages so went there after seeing the latest bullshit and tried to comment with a new account. Went back without being logged in and the comment showed as deleted. Why not just state the account is banned like other sites do instead of doing the retarded thing where you can post but it won't show up? It wasn't even anything offensive or aggressive.

 

[Margo Martindale]

Stumbled upon a reddit alternative literally called plebbit and with an NPC wojak as the mascot, kek

The interesting part though, is it is apparently fully peer to peer, making it decentralized using light protocol over IPFS/IPNS/libp2p. Apparently its all being funded by a single guy who is paying some full times devs out of his savings to help make it.

https://plebbit-test.netlify.app/#/

Right now it seems to be mostly shitposting, but it will be interesting to see how it develops. Also its open source

 

[Corpun]

Three posts in a row on r/NoStupidQuestions about tits.

I swear to God redditors are so fucking coombrained it's not even funny. At lest it's better than those blatantly fake sexual fetish stories you see getting posted everywhere.

 

[AnOminous]

TL;DR- they're trying to pick and choose the benefits from centralized and cooperative development, while carrying none of the drawbacks. This has fairly consistently worked out to Reddit's detriment.

That really sounds similar to the events that led digg into a terminal death spiral, except where digg actively fucked up their own interface in a misguided attempt to monetize (resulting in them having nothing to monetize as everyone left), third parties actively put effort into fixing the fucked-up soyware of reddit so people could actually use it, and in return reddit is basically saying fuck you and re-breaking it.

 

[grapeshark77]

The Save3rdPartyApps sub is fun to check in on - I actually agree with them but because it's Reddit they're annoying. The biggest issue is that they aren't employees negotiating a contract, they're just unpaid jannies. The posts act like they're union members striking and have leverage.

Also nobody can agree on the actual protest - some are doing 2 days, some are doing "indefinitely", and others are starting with 2 as a threat, like this drama guy below. No coordination whatsoever.



https://archive.ph/wip/Q6XbO

 

[std::string]

The Save3rdPartyApps sub is fun to check in on - I actually agree with them but because it's Reddit they're annoying. The biggest issue is that they aren't employees negotiating a contract, they're just unpaid jannies. The posts act like they're union members striking and have leverage.

Reddit knows the jannies have nothing else going on in their lives and the mod rod is their only source of fulfillment.

So just like every other blackout they've tried this will be entirely ignored by the admins.

 

[Drama Fan]

Oh big suprise! Reddit astroturfing activity in non-english subs to artifically increase activity stats! Say it ain't so
An /r/France user is claiming reddit admins are trying to prop up non-english versions of popular subs by using machine translated versions of posts made on their English-version subreddits. Notes this seems to be happening in both French and German subreddits. Maybe some people that aren't monolingual can confirm if this is real.
Post (archive)
ycombinator thread. Lots of speculation that this, much like the API nonsense is due to IPO preparations; investors want to see activity and profits increased.
DeepL translation of the thread (sorry, the formatting gets a bit fucked from translation)

Reddit's auto-astrosurfing (again) in non-English-speaking communities
Originally, this was a comment elsewhere, but I think it's worth sharing with as many people as possible because right now, Reddit is collecting Reddit moments.

TL;PL: title, but without typeface

Disclaimer: everyone's a bot.

Back in January, I pointed out to the right and to the left, notably on r/FrMods in this topic, that many communities were being invaded by publications that were machine translations of old English topics. But in the absence of any reaction or explanation, I'd left it at the assumption that it was simple karma cultivation for future astroturfing campaigns for political, marketing or trolling purposes. I didn't really look any further, and nobody seemed to care, even though it regularly bordered on the absurd to see people seriously answering bots' questions. I myself fell into the trap more than once on r/litterature or r/ecriture. I even saw a topic on r/ELI5fr where someone used ChatGPT to answer the bot's question in the first degree. But the modos just let it happen, like here, here or here, except when it was really blatant, like in this case, this one or this one.

I'm convinced that these bots have contributed to artificially increasing the visibility of these communities, both locally and for newcomers, to the detriment of others that are more rigorous about their content. They have also contributed to the decline in activity of these communities, since the creation of a publication is not limited to a question or a paragraph that serves as content. Sheepishly, we go where there seems to be people and activity. Hard to compete with r/ on steroids.

But that was just a theory I hadn't delved into. I'd simply unsubscribed from these bots' breeding grounds and tried to forget that part of Reddit I don't like at all, where everything is repeated in a loop for a short-memory, all-consuming mass.

And then I came across this publication on r/de.
In a nutshell, an admin contacted some of r/de's most active redditos to inform them of the creation of German-speaking communities equivalent to big r/ like r/TooAfraidToAsk r/offmychest or r/tipofmytongue. It didn't take long for someone to notice that the publications of these and other older communities were bad translations of originally English content. Promoted by a fucking admin. Members of r/de investigated and discovered that these accounts are sometimes the only ones active there, and reply to each other in broken German.

I was intrigued by the fact that not only publications, but also comments were being inflated, so I went to take a look at the growth in the number of members of certain French-speaking communities. It's worse than anything else, and so pathetically

the manipulation is blatant.
In April 2022, you can see the r/place effect in the abnormally high jump in the number of new members. Then there's the absurdity of a whole month of dizzying, constant progress in 5 karma-farming communities. The previous month also saw artificial growth in r/bonjour, the community publicly managed by French-speaking admins. Over the same period of time, it's the same progression, then a slow decline because this page has become a pseudo French r/all, but editorialized and without much interest. And this artificial crowding-in of members comes at the expense of the activity of smaller communities that require more than asking a question, or more than a paragraph.

All this to say that the exorbitant pricing of API access, with the consequent end of third-party apps, but also the probable loss of certain moderation tools, is part of the same logic with a view to increasing the site's profitability and its publicly desired IPO as early as December 2021. Reddit wants to do everything it can to please advertisers, even if it means becoming a shell at the expense of the people who are supposed to run the site.

Added: I don't know why the last part disappeared, I've put it back.

I wish the OP of the france thread would have linked to some examples to make a much better case, but I really would have 0 surprise if this were true. That said, it could also be karma farmers for all we know, aging up accounts for advertising in those languages. It's hard to definitively tie it to anyone.

 

[Smar Mijou]

LMAO, the fact that these unemployed basement-dwellers think that they have any actual leverage anymore is downright laughable. pReddit is a locked-down, thoroughly controlled website, and has been working towards a stock IPO for... *checks sundial* going on 7+years now. If the power jannies think for even a minute that a little protest by taking the subs dark for a few days would hurt an IPO, they'd finally drop all pretense of "user control" and boot the offending mods and open the subreddits back up. They've done it before, and can and will do it again. Also, LMAO at trying to equate being a pReddit janny with Habitat For Humanity. Like, who the fuck do these people think they are? Or how out of touch and delusional are they that they see banning people over "hate speech" such as "men and women are different" or Normies refusing to "Suck the Girldique" literally and figuratively, as on par with actually building a home for disadvantaged people?! I doubt that the average pReddit janny could hang a section of drywall, let alone frame a house and string up roof trusses for a day.

Don't mind me, just posting this for no reasons.
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Also, anyone else remember after that one reddit AMA person got fired? I seem to recall something happening after.

That was Victoria, one of the few at the time actually paid Reddit employees. She coordinated most of the "Ask Me Anything" events and was unceremoniously fired and as far as I know, the true details about it have never came to light. IMO that was one of the earlier signs of pReddit's downfall, but the backlash at least had a part in getting that Chink Ellen Pao fired, so that was a plus.

Kinda creepy how "official" Reddit has completely unpersoned him.

I wouldn't go that far. They've essentially put him in the "Jesus position", meaning that whenever they have some sort of agenda to push, they'll invoke his name and somehow twist words he said to fit their meaning. I've seen posts from delusional pRedditors asserting everything from "he was an elite hacker who was killed by the government" to others insisting that he was gay or trans, even though he was known to have a girlfriend when he unalived himself. Truthfully, even though he was a spergy little Jew, I agreed with much of what he stood for when it came to open access and railing against the increasing corporatization and consolidation of the internet. He even saw the writing on the wall and left pReddit years earlier due to their obsessive march towards monetization.

I truly, truly cannot adequately express just how much contempt I have for every single reddit janny. Jannies are not giving their time and skills to a charity. Jannies are not building homes for people. This is a worthy endeavour, deserving genuine respect. You are cleaning up the virtual shit-stained bathrooms of the Internet in your own time for the sole benefit of an enormous corporation and YOU DO IT FOR FREE.

I agree. Part of the reason why I left pReddit years back was due to the faggot jannies (before the Current Thing was the troon agenda) taking over and ruining a subreddit that I was a part of. A person who goes above and beyond to keep things on-topic and cleaning up and removing irrelevant and/or useless bullshit is a moderator. Basement dwellers who throw their weight around and edit/delete posts or ban people because their fee-fees got hurt are just tranny-jannies with an authority complex.

 

[AnOminous]

Also nobody can agree on the actual protest - some are doing 2 days, some are doing "indefinitely", and others are starting with 2 as a threat, like this drama guy below. No coordination whatsoever.

If they somehow made it about troons being hindered in molesting children, reddit would probably cave in.