EU Replacing US military support in Europe would cost $1T - The costs of like-for-like replacement of U.S. equipment and personnel would add up to approximately $1 trillion over 25 years, the study found.

Replacing US military support in Europe would cost $1T
Politico EU (archive.ph)
By Giovanna Coi
2025-05-15 12:38:20GMT

Europe could survive without United States military support — but it would take a quarter century to replace the Americans and cost as much as $1 trillion, according to a new report.

A study by the International Institute for Strategic Studies published Thursday found that a hypothetical U.S. withdrawal from Europe would leave the continent’s NATO members vulnerable to a Russian threat and faced with “stark choices” on how to fill the immense gaps.

The costs of like-for-like replacement of U.S. equipment and personnel would add up to approximately $1 trillion over 25 years, the study found. That includes one-off procurement costs ranging from $226 billion to $344 billion — depending on the quality of the equipment purchased — and additional expenses associated with military maintenance, personnel and support.

The most expensive line item on the shopping list would be 400 tactical combat aircraft, followed by 20 destroyers and 24 long-range surface-to-air missiles.

The IISS also estimated that in the event of a large-scale military operation to counter a Russian attack, the cost to replace U.S. personnel (estimated at 128,000 troops) would exceed $12 billion.

The assessment does not include other glaring gaps, the cost of which is harder to quantify. These include command and control, coordination, space, intelligence and surveillance, as well as the cost of nuclear weapons.

Europeans would also need to fill certain top jobs, like the position of supreme allied commander in Europe — NATO’s commander on the continent and its second-highest-ranking military position. With the U.S. out of the picture, they would also have to step up diplomatic coordination efforts.

Easier said than done
Filling the gap left by the U.S. in Europe would require a mix of time, long-term political commitment and more ambitious investment.

But even with unlimited political goodwill and the cash to match it, European industry would in the short term lack the capability to meet increased demand, according to the IISS. Arms manufacturers would be faced with supply chain bottlenecks, a shortage of skilled workers, and financing and regulatory constraints.

Most likely, the “buy European” dream touted by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen would not materialize for a while. Even if procurement picks up in the land sector, other sectors like naval and aerospace have seen very little investment. In some areas like rocket artillery or low-observable fighter aircraft, buying local is simply not an option.

Still, despite Europe’s continued dependency on U.S. military suppliers, there are signs of progress.

The institute’s analysis of selected procurement efforts tendered between February 2022 and September 2024 found that 52 percent of their value was awarded to European suppliers, compared to 34 percent for the United States. The “buy European” trend is likely to gain traction, according to the authors of the report.

Europe is also spending more than before to defend itself.

In the wake of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, several NATO countries stepped up their efforts to meet or exceed the alliance’s goal of spending at least 2 percent of gross domestic product on defense.

Donald Trump’s return to the White House was also an unexpected boon to proponents of European defense. The president’s demands that European allies contribute more to NATO — and his suggestion that the U.S. might abandon its defense commitments to the continent — have cast doubt on America’s reliability as an ally. That makes the idea of “genuinely European defense,” as championed by French President Emmanuel Macron, more appealing.

But cash-strapped governments only have so much wiggle room to spend more on defense while keeping their national debts under control.

Moreover, tensions in countries like Spain and Italy, which are struggling with squeezed public finances, suggest public opposition to greater military spending could also be an obstacle if Europe is left on its own.

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https://www.iiss.org/research-paper...ut--the-united-states-costs-and-consequences/ (archive.ph)
https://www.iiss.org/globalassets/m...ited-states_costs-and-consequences_052025.pdf (archive.org)
https://www.iiss.org/globalassets/m...ited-states_costs-and-consequences_052025.pdf (archive.org)
 
They somehow have all the money in the world for supporting endless numbers of new immigrants. If they can do that they can support their own militaries. They did it for hundreds of years before the US got involved so we know they can do it. If they refuse? Thats their problem. The US should pull out entirely and let them all implode trying to dump money into pointless shit

That said why are they even bothering with any more than a bare minimum of a military? The era of large scale wars is essentially over. Especially in europe. Its not like the germans are going to start shit again and nobody else has any reason to. Nor should they be supporting anyone elses wars, thats how we got two world wars and the shitshow that was 19th century europe
 
Seething burger whose non-existent wife wouldn't get any paid maternity leave and who gets 1 week of unpaid vacation time per year
I got 2 months paid paternal leave after the birth of my third child and I am going to take a months long vacation this year. 🤷‍♂️
They somehow have all the money in the world for supporting endless numbers of new immigrants. If they can do that they can support their own militaries. They did it for hundreds of years before the US got involved so we know they can do it. If they refuse? Thats their problem. The US should pull out entirely and let them all implode trying to dump money into pointless shit

That said why are they even bothering with any more than a bare minimum of a military? The era of large scale wars is essentially over. Especially in europe. It’s not like the germans are going to start shit again and nobody else has any reason to. Nor should they be supporting anyone elses wars, thats how we got two world wars and the shitshow that was 19th century europe
I’m sure the neo-Europeans are capable of defending their continent. It’s not like they’re cowards and leeches only in it for easy cash and access to white women.
 
If the Eurofags can swing being the global hegemon, have at it.
Americans are the most disloyal people ever. That is one cultural trait that exists in Americans regardless of race.

USA should fall along with your retarded values that you push on the world. No more globohomo, egalitarian, and delusional racial equaility/unity crap which is a worthless ideal that doesn't do diddly squat.

Some americans actually believe this, which is incredible.
USA became very evil once the race commie 1965 revolution from Jewish radicals (how much blood do these guys have on their hands at this point?) and then tried to export that shit to all of us.

I don't see the west eurasian sub-species surviving in the future without a major paradigm shift. Jews + other southwest asian populations need to fuck off with their radicalism and stop trying to destroy + undermine ppl of European descent as we make up the bulk of the west eurasian sub-specie's population. Once we're gone, west asians are next to fall.
I’m sure the neo-Europeans are capable of defending their continent. It’s not like they’re cowards and leeches only in it for easy cash and access to white women.

They will never be european. West Asians will never be Europeans and vice versa. It's possible for some European/West Asian mixes to be a European of sorts though. All that matters is being part of the european genetic cluster which will translate into a region of Europe that you belong in. For 100% Ashky Jews that's South Italy and parts of Greece.

I'm glad they won't defend it at all and don't integrate. It makes it painfully obvious that their addition just ruins Europe's fragile human ecosystem. Europe isn't the Americas which is just a giant Island that nobody is genetically indigenous to (native americans belong in north east siberia), it gets no simpler than south germany for south germans/german-like people. Northern France/South England for those kinds of people, etc. Regionalism matters as well, and European's xenophobia towards people who are similar to them has a great underlying reason to it: To protect their part of Europe's genetic fabric.

The invasive populations are only in Europe due to a horrific mix of religion, economics, vengeful politics, and ideology. It's entirely artificial. Indo-European migration had a different underlying reason to create most of Europe's genetic fabric. Once gene flow stabilized, we pretty much settled in the region of Europe where we belonged.
 
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It's a useful study but of necessity limited to like for like replacement which is the one thing that would never happen. There are also huge factors completely ignored. The presence of very large numbers of well paid Americans in Europe is a economic benefit in itself. They spend a lot of their money locally. On the other side of the coin NATO and (largely) American control of NATO has provided significant economic benefits to America and especially it's arms industry. There's a reason why the sale of F104s to Europe was called the deal of the century. American kit would still be bought but not to such an extent and commonality with American kit becomes less of an issue if they aren't there.

The more fundamental issue is why does NATO still exist and what is the threat? Sure, the evil Russkies have invaded former soviet states. (And I'm not going to go into the rights and wrongs of that!) What NATO territory (either as at the Cold War or as subsequently expanded) has been under threat? Oh yeah; none. If you really wanted to protect against the red menace rampaging in from the east there's a relatively inexpensive solution which was previously been deployed during the Cold War. Tactical nukes including nuclear landmines along those border regions. The way certain states have been conducting themselves over the last few decades I'm not convinced that reducing them to radioactive wastelands wouldn't be a net positive regardless of the Russians.

From the Britbong perspective I cannot fathom why so much resource has been poured into a pair of carriers that seem to have very little relevance to any Britsh requirement and I doubt could be defended against any serious opponent. It seems to be an exercise in willy waving without realising that three inches ain't something to be proud of.

What should be of real concern is this being used as a justification for EU controlled armed forces, something those fuckers have been wanting for years. When it comes to threats to my liberties and way of life, Ursula von der Leyen and her cabal of globalists scare me far more than nasty bear riding Putin ever did.
 
Its hard for them to accept their diminished role in the world, and having to step aside as, likely the chinks (maybe, who knows, see how that plays out) take over.
Why do foreign faggots presume Americans care about the role of their country in the global stage? I can assure you the majority of us don't give a shit about the world or the faggots that inhabit it, we actually hate most of you and want nothing to do with you.
 
And yet you are always talking about us...
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"Americans talking about Europe in a thread about Europe? Heh, rent-free."
 
the most disloyal people ever
That's really really rich coming from Europeans.
USA should fall along with your retarded values that you push on the world. No more globohomo, egalitarian, and delusional racial equaility/unity crap which is a worthless ideal that doesn't do diddly squat.
All of that shit started in Europe and was imported post WW1. The neo-cons are Trotskyists for fuck's sake.
 
They somehow have all the money in the world for supporting endless numbers of new immigrants. If they can do that they can support their own militaries. They did it for hundreds of years before the US got involved so we know they can do it. If they refuse? Thats their problem. The US should pull out entirely and let them all implode trying to dump money into pointless shit

That said why are they even bothering with any more than a bare minimum of a military? The era of large scale wars is essentially over. Especially in europe. Its not like the germans are going to start shit again and nobody else has any reason to. Nor should they be supporting anyone elses wars, thats how we got two world wars and the shitshow that was 19th century europe
The important difference is that the rapeugees industry is not a merit based one and it's not biased towards employing men. A lot of the rot is basically creating problems so the government could hire bureaucrats and social workers to deal with it.

Also big wars will always happen and it's unlikely that Europe will use nukes, especially if enemies have already occupied cities within the country, which they can use as hostages.
Tactical nukes
I don't think nukes will be used any time soon. The civilian and public image cost is too high.

From the Britbong perspective I cannot fathom why so much resource has been poured into a pair of carriers that seem to have very little relevance to any Britsh requirement and I doubt could be defended against any serious opponent.
It's so your admirals will have slightly less embarrassing ratios of men to vessels.
 
Sound like Euro politicians needed to be out there sucking dick to raise money for a military fucking yesterday, then. And nobody's going to join a volunteer army to protect a bunch of queermos out on the street corner sucking dick for cock.
 
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