Resident Evil - Virgin Vampire Wine Mom vs Chad Magnetic Lebowski

[Judge Holden]

I thought a bit about Resident evil 8 and think it would be awesome if they go back to the 60s when Umbrella was founded. It would be awesome too see how the monsters looked back then. Even the good ol' typewriters could be used again. The main characters could be a detective and/ or a scientist hired by umbrella and they slowly unravel the horrible truth about the company.

I think that's what Resident Evil is missing. I wish they would show us how it all began.

But that's wishful thinking.

Yeah, and speakin of wishful thinking...
https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/ajix9p/resident_evil_tv_series_in_works_at_netflix/

While I am convinced given the production company is the same that shat out the movies that this is gonna suck, if we are really...really fucking lucky we will finally get the planned Arkay series that had a pilot prologue leaked a while back...

Supposedly the series was gonna be a prequel to RE1 in which the Racoon City police investigated fucked up murders and incidents which steadily built up to the STARS team being sent to the city, all while the outbreak in RE2 slowly ramped up in the background.

Honestly given how turgid and shit the Walking Dead turned out, I would really appreciate some non apocalyptic/pure horror driven zombie series like this one was planned to be.

Also just as a tangental side-note, it does amuse me to no end that out of all the zombie media shit out there, fucking Resident Evil probably was the most on the money with how an actual zombie "apocalypse" would go down, with a handful of settlements being wiped out in initial outbreaks before every government and health/military body on the planet realised "oh shit there are fucking zombies. we probably should do something about this or things will get nasty" and quickly started implementing simple yet effective countermeasures.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Fucking Resident Evil probably was the most on the money with how an actual zombie "apocalypse" would go down, with a handful of cities being wiped out in initial outbreaks before every government and health/military body on the planet realised "oh shit there are fucking zombies.

True. But Resident evil is much more than just Zombies - it's about the horros of biological warfare. A Zombie only RE would be really boring. There are infected plants, animals, parasites, mutated insane people who injected themselves with viruses and of course all the bioorganic weapons.

It has potential for a series. But of course it fell into the wrong hands. So it will be turned into crappy action schlock worse than RE 6.

 

[Deus Ex Macarena]

Elliot in Outbreak wasn't the moustache or fat one, he was this dude, who was playable if you unlocked him from Outbreak's in-game unlock store:

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I'm not referring to the one from Outbreak, but the operation reporter from the original RE2. One's called Elliott (The cop who died on Main Street) and the other's called Elliot (Who's half the man he was). I normally spell it with two Ts but there's a difference, so apologies for the confusion.

This is the RE2 Original Elliot Edwards, the one who cause the helicopter to crash in the B scenario, according to the Wiki.

Though in the remake they never explain why the helicopter crashed, it just did.

Spoiler

I get autistic over the little things in Resident Evil

 

[Ali della Fenice]

I thought a bit about Resident evil 8 and think it would be awesome if they go back to the 60s when Umbrella was founded. It would be awesome too see how the monsters looked back then. Even the good ol' typewriters could be used again. The main characters could be a detective and/ or a scientist hired by umbrella and they slowly unravel the horrible truth about the company.

I think that's what Resident Evil is missing. I wish they would show us how it all began.

But that's wishful thinking.

Thats what re0 is for.
The creatures in the game are pretty much the first specimens created with the virus.
Even though it is not always clear which virus (the monkeys are most likely progenitor) they are a result of.
You even get to see the first ever created tyrant.

 

[Judge Holden]

True. But Resident evil is much more than just Zombies - it's about the horros of biological warfare. A Zombie only RE would be really boring. There are infected plants, animals, parasites, mutated insane people who injected themselves with viruses and of course all the bioorganic weapons.

Indeed. If it was just zombies odds are Raccoon City would have just lost a couple blocks before the cops and gun nuts realised "oh ok, so headshots and fire then!" and started putting them down en-masse.

It has potential for a series. But of course it fell into the wrong hands. So it will be turned crappy action schlock worse than RE 6.

As much as I like Resident Evil Four, it did really fuck the series over in the long run with the de-emphasis of horror and the increased ease of just slaughtering your way through whole armies. Really wish they stuck to the original setting/theme in the castle that the OG trailers had. Trying to turn the series into action with mild horror aesthetic was a terrible fucking idea and I am really glad they have been reversing this for the past few games.

As for the series I just hope the producers pull a "eh fuck it, lets do something new and see if it works" and allow a halfway talented writer turn it into something different from all the other zombie shittery out there.

 

[Pumpkin Girl IRL]

Indeed. If it was just zombies odds are Raccoon City would have just lost a couple blocks before the cops and gun nuts realised "oh ok, so headshots and fire then!" and started putting them down en-masse.

Funnily enough, this remake has - to me at least - gotten across just how fucking relentless zombies should be. Nothing short of the brain being turned to complete mush keeps them down permanently; it isn't common to take half a skull off with a shotgun blast only for the victim to keep coming, or hit the deck and reanimate again when your back is turned.

This isn't just down to game mechanics either. A lot of zombie models display a ton of damage on their bodies and are still trucking forward. Despite what TV Tropes will tell you, watching a few zombie movies and acting on headshots isn't enough in this RE verse. :V

 

[Keystone]

I'm not referring to the one from Outbreak, but the operation reporter from the original RE2. One's called Elliott (The cop who died on Main Street) and the other's called Elliot (Who's half the man he was). I normally spell it with two Ts but there's a difference, so apologies for the confusion.

This is the RE2 Original Elliot Edwards, the one who cause the helicopter to crash in the B scenario, according to the Wiki.

Though in the remake they never explain why the helicopter crashed, it just did.

Spoiler

I get autistic over the little things in Resident Evil

Maybe they did a retcon and made it the helicopter Nemesis shoots down.

 

[c-no]

Indeed. If it was just zombies odds are Raccoon City would have just lost a couple blocks before the cops and gun nuts realised "oh ok, so headshots and fire then!" and started putting them down en-masse.





As much as I like Resident Evil Four, it did really fuck the series over in the long run with the de-emphasis of horror and the increased ease of just slaughtering your way through whole armies. Really wish they stuck to the original setting/theme in the castle that the OG trailers had. Trying to turn the series into action with mild horror aesthetic was a terrible fucking idea and I am really glad they have been reversing this for the past few games.

As for the series I just hope the producers pull a "eh fuck it, lets do something new and see if it works" and allow a halfway talented writer turn it into something different from all the other zombie shittery out there.

Getting the t-virus into the water supply instead of fluoride could explain the city getting over run to throw the police off course. Plus, it would explain why Brad says the police were never trained to handle such a situation. Also cannot forget that some of the zombies can mutate later on into a licker, especially since one of the outbreak games had you deal with a zombie that was mutating into one.

Maybe they did a retcon and made it the helicopter Nemesis shoots down.

Either that or the helicopter pilot was attacked by an infected civilian but the latter would require a better explanation since you never see anything from the helicopter besides a dead pilot that later gets burned to ash and nothing else within the crashed helicopter.

 

[Deus Ex Macarena]

Maybe they did a retcon and made it the helicopter Nemesis shoots down.

No I don't think so, we never heard an explosion before the crash nor was there any indication on the helicopter that it had been struck by a rocket. Plus the Nemesis would be somewhere near the St. Michael Clock Tower during the events of RE2 which is on the other side of the city. Plus his rocket launcher is destroyed after he shoots down the UBCS chopper.

My only guess is that he was infected and passed out while approaching the precinct.

 

[c-no]

No I don't think so, we never heard an explosion before the crash nor was there any indication on the helicopter that it had been struck by a rocket. Plus the Nemesis would be somewhere near the St. Michael Clock Tower during the events of RE2 which is on the other side of the city. Plus his rocket launcher is destroyed after he shoots down the UBCS chopper.

My only guess is that he was infected and passed out while approaching the precinct.

The infected idea could hold more weight. Consider the truck driver from the intro. Aside from getting bit in the shoulder, the guy passed out, crashed his truck, and left an explosive inferno. It wouldn't be far off that the pilot got attacked, still tried to go back to see if he could rescue anyone, and pass out mid-flight right onto the precinct.

 

[Deus Ex Macarena]

The infected idea could hold more weight. Consider the truck driver from the intro. Aside from getting bit in the shoulder, the guy passed out, crashed his truck, and left an explosive inferno. It wouldn't be far off that the pilot got attacked, still tried to go back to see if he could rescue anyone, and pass out mid-flight right onto the precinct.

It's probably the best explanation considering how fast he was going when he hit the precinct. The only thing though is that we don't see his zombified corpse walking around afterwards, it may be that the fire killed him but there are other zombies on fire in that area that survive for a while on fire. I would say blunt force trauma but he was wearing a helmet.

All that aside I'm hoping we do get some explanation later on in some DLC to cover some of the plot holes in the story. The biggest one right now is how Elliot was able to figure out the secret tunnel and the combinations to the three statues. There's nowhere in the basement that this information was present, so either someone told him or there's a secret area he managed to get to which held this information.

It would be pretty cool to witness the outbreak from the eyes of someone already there in the thick of it and for once give us a look at bloody David Ford. They gave us a lot more backstory to him being a bit deranged and wanting revenge on Irons, even having Elliot name drop him, but never showed what he looks like.

 

[Pumpkin Girl IRL]

I understand there's a free "ghost survivors" DLC coming which is a quasi-battle mode, starring minor characters like that.

 

[c-no]

It's probably the best explanation considering how fast he was going when he hit the precinct. The only thing though is that we don't see his zombified corpse walking around afterwards, it may be that the fire killed him but there are other zombies on fire in that area that survive for a while on fire.

All that aside I'm hoping we do get some explanation later on in some DLC to cover some of the plot holes in the story. The biggest one right now is how Elliot was able to figure out the secret tunnel and the combinations to the three statues. There's nowhere in the basement that this information was present, so either someone told him or there's a secret area he managed to get to which held this information.

It would be pretty cool to witness the outbreak from the eyes of someone already there in the thick of it and for once give us a look at bloody David Ford. They gave us a lot more backstory to him being a bit deranged and wanting revenge on Irons, even having Elliot name drop him, but never showed what he looks like.

It could be possible that he may of stumbled onto something Irons had but that would get him killed off by Irons somehow unless he simpy came across the notebook. An Outbreak remake or DLC would be fitting to play as someone already in the thick of the zombie apocalypse in Raccoon City and playing as Ford would be a good candidate.

 

[Judge Holden]

I understand there's a free "ghost survivors" DLC coming which is a quasi-battle mode, starring minor characters like that.

What like Sherry Birkin and Barry's kids?

 

[Deus Ex Macarena]

It could be possible that he may of stumbled onto something Irons had but that would get him killed off by Irons somehow unless he simpy came across the notebook. An Outbreak remake or DLC would be fitting to play as someone already in the thick of the zombie apocalypse in Raccoon City and playing as Ford would be a good candidate.

I'm starting to think they might be developing a new Outbreak game for modern systems, they've been hiding references to it since RE7 and with RE2 full of them it sounds like the Outbreak series has been noticed.

Also I found one in the title opening on A scenarion during the credits. They have a shot of an underground train station that looks somewhat like South Raccoon Street Station from the Underbelly scenario, the only time an underground station has been seen in Raccoon City.

 

[ProfDongs]

Played through Leon A, B and Claire A so far on hardcore and I've really enjoyed the game. I don't mind the zombies not going down in one head shot because it encourages more strategic uses of bullets early on to get stuns and staggers more than clearing out room to room like the original 2&3. Nowhere other than 2 with Chief Irons saying a shot to the head or decapitation will kill zombies so that doesn't seem like a huge retcon anyway, I think anyway could be wrong. Some of the boss fights are a little weak because it really just turns into running circles in this square environment and waiting for attacks. Also I read somewhere that depending on the difficulty the bosses health is based off of the amount of ammo you bring into a fight to act as a resource drain basically, really hope that isn't the case. The games got some jank but it was wait the worth.


Edit: All of the Ghost Survivors were announced for Feb 15. You'll play scenarios as Mayor Warrens daughter, Kendo, and some USS member. The classic skins will also be available at that time for Claire and Leon.

 

[Jaimas]

What like Sherry Birkin and Barry's kids?

Presumably the STARs members around at the time, possibly the Outbreak cast, Marvin, maybe Elliot.

 

[Judge Holden]

Presumably the STARs members around at the time, possibly the Outbreak cast, Marvin, maybe Elliot.

*Sighs*
I was making a play on words there.

Ya know "minor" characters, as in characters who are "minors"...

 

[Ali della Fenice]

Indeed. If it was just zombies odds are Raccoon City would have just lost a couple blocks before the cops and gun nuts realised "oh ok, so headshots and fire then!" and started putting them down en-masse.

You say this but, you can clearly see in re3's intro that the only reason the cops get owned is because they hadnt picked up on that. It is just not part of their training to deal with that kind of thing and also a bit of dumb videogame logic mixed in, where a whole precint of cops cant do shit, while the protagonist manages to succeed all on her own.

 

[Pumpkin Girl IRL]

So hey, anyone struggling to avoid Mr X:

Heavy footsteps - he's a room or two away. He doesn't know where you are.

Footsteps and clinking - he's in the room with you, but you haven't been spotted.

Dubstep - hes seen you oh shit motherfuck

Gunfire and picking up key items makes him beeline straight towards you regardless of where he is. Zombies growling loudly, and sprinting will draw him to your room if he's nearby, and directly towards you if already in the same room.