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RE4 still holds up, I replay it every year or so, so I'm skeptical about remaking it. That said, seeing RE2 remake Leon in RE4 remake might bring back that giddy excitement everyone felt seeing how he changed in 4, which is a plus. They could also use a 4 remake to massively expand on Luis Sera and Krauser, because they were pretty underbaked in the original. RE4 takes place over some very distinct areas, though, and it's very long, so I hope they're putting in the time and effort with the assets and making sure to cut only what makes sense for a remake (mine cart section, maybe that weird fire room) and otherwise adding new sections to keep it fresh and around the same length.

As for RE8, I like that Ethan is returning. He was decently charismatic for a "normal" protagonist and had some great one liners. If they expand his characterization and introduce some fun mechanics/scenes with his regeneration powers, I'm on board. God knows we need some new blood to become mainstays so that Capcom doesn't constantly go back to Chris and Leon.
 
Didn't Krauser and Leon both have the same spec-ops knives out when they fought, or am I misremembering? Either way there's past history there I would love to see explored, given their interactions.
 
Snekposter said:
Didn't Krauser and Leon both have the same spec-ops knives out when they fought, or am I misremembering? Either way there's past history there I would love to see explored, given their interactions.
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I think they did, but this is actually explained in one of the light gun games. Darkside Chronicles I think? Krauser and Leon used to be colleagues and responded to a biohazard outbreak in South America
 
Oh, I figured they had to have been part of the same spec-ops outfit given the interactions, and I was agreeing with the above poster that seeing that get expanded on would have been great.
 
The handsome tard said:
I actually hope we dont learn anything new about him, you know why? Simple, I think that the fact he isnt explained and, all things considered, is possibly supernatural (he is literally everywhere with access to everything) is one of the things that I think add to RE 4's charm. The Supernatural is almost never a thing in RE, its usually always explained as hallucinations and viruses, whatever, so a healthy touch of the unknown was nice for that game. I would have loved if they kept him for future entries and still didnt bother to explain much if anything at all. The fact we dont know is one of the reasons why he is such a fascinating merchant, because all things considered, he shouldnt even exist at all.
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I agree I hope they just play him up as more supernatural if they ever remake it. Like have Luis ask leon if he ever heared some folk tale of amagical merchant. Or Have a hidden coveration where Salazar mention to guards or something that they need to find how that merchant keeps sneaking into the castle.





Burned Man said:
All I want is a post credit epilogue scene of him in a boat sailing away from the island showing he survived because this time Leon didn't forget to tell him everything was gonna blow up. Also his boat is filled to bursting with treasure and guns.
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Or a post credit scene where It cuts to the merchant a year later running across someone else from the RE cast opening his coat and saying. " I've got something that might intrest ya. Hehehehe."

Oh Shit I'm Sorry said:
You mean him and his 50 twins? You kill one and they'll never spawn in that area again though all the others remain completely unchanged so I've always ascribed to the idea that there's a whole horde of them. Plus that'd require him to run ahead of Leon to the next area every time (while simultaneously being able to get back in time if Leon decides to backtrack). The more merchants there are running around, the merrier.
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Maybe thats what his Las Plagas is. He clearly infected,and must have control over it,so what if he just has some form of ungodly regeneration from a Dominant Plaga strain. Wouldn't be too outlandous given the game. And him being around everywhere easy given the super human ablities Dominat grant a person, he just running ahead of leon. If anything this man has his goal stright he could take over the world, but chooses to make money with his powers. :story:
 
Snekposter said:
Didn't Krauser and Leon both have the same spec-ops knives out when they fought, or am I misremembering? Either way there's past history there I would love to see explored, given their interactions.
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Different blades. Krauser's was bigger and his handle was curved at the top because spinning is a good trick.

And then of course he takes massive damage from getting knifed in his boss fight because the game is pure kino. Chris can punch boulders to smithereens but I'm pretty sure no one other than Leon was capable of knifing a Tyrant to death.
 
I wonder if they'll cut or condense certain sections of 4. The mine cart and fossil dig area are kinda redundant and fillerish in the grand scheme of things. Also, I really want them to keep that great creepy village vibe from the start of the game. Once you start pushing into the house/castle things start to get a little campy.

Also, I wonder if they will try and combine the castle and island together. It was always really weird to me that the game builds up to you getting to the castle and slowly rising up to the top floor, only to pull NOPE gotta go to this island we haven't referenced in the game till this point.
 
If there's anything I would fix about the original RE4, it would be the pacing of the island. The island was always my least favorite section because the game feels like it's running on fumes at that point. There are still some excellent parts mind you, like the truck chase, the fights with Krauser, and blowing shit up with Mike, and even the weaker parts of RE4 blow most games out of the water. It's just you can really tell the game has already peaked and the island just feels like the game is stretching itself a little thin.

If a remake were to happen, I hope the island might get some fine-tuning so it doesn't feel like the game is wearing itself out right at the finish line.
 
Dom Cruise said:
I'm very disappointed to hear RE3 remake has some flaws, but it's been 16 years since I played the original so I don't even remember it too well.

Tell me, with all the talk of cut areas, do you still at least go to the hospital?

As for a RE4 remake I'm ok with that for two reasons, one is that a big part of what made RE4 so intense at the time was how stunning the graphics looked but those graphics have aged pretty poorly which takes a lot of the excitement away, I'd love to see those environments rendered with the modern engine.

And secondly I'm not as crazy about RE4 as most people are, I like it a lot but I do think there's room for improvement and expansion, but I don't want them to stray too far from the original tone, I want Leon to still crack some one liners and I want Ashley still in a skirt and sporting "ballistics"

With Capcom going as far as to remake 4 though I think all of the remakes should be considered a new continuity and they should ignore 5 and 6 completely, 7 can be "grandfathered in" but 4 remake should springboard into 8 and 8 should make it clear that 5 and 6 never happened, maybe they could even bring back Wesker?
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Im concerned their leon will be plank of wood Leon from the CG movies and RE 6...

Honestly they cant just retcon 5 and 6 from existance (as much as I really dislike 6). Especially bringing Wesker back just like that. Assuming we go along with that, are we to assume nothing happened between 2004/5 (when RE 4 takes place I think) and 2017 (when RE7 takes place)? Does that mean the Revelation games would be retconned out too?
See? It just wouldnt work.

Duncan Hills Coffee said:
If there's anything I would fix about the original RE4, it would be the pacing of the island. The island was always my least favorite section because the game feels like it's running on fumes at that point. There are still some excellent parts mind you, like the truck chase, the fights with Krauser, and blowing shit up with Mike, and even the weaker parts of RE4 blow most games out of the water. It's just you can really tell the game has already peaked and the island just feels like the game is stretching itself a little thin.

If a remake were to happen, I hope the island might get some fine-tuning so it doesn't feel like the game is wearing itself out right at the finish line.
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I think thats called "Xen Syndrome" its based on the moment when the game reaches the third arc, its endgame, and for some reason the player just feels burned out because the game isnt in the point of throwing new things, only increasing the difficulty almost always in an unnatural and unfair way (like, now you gotta fight this boss as a mini-boss while stronger enemies fight you as mooks). The term came the first Half Life game, where players felt when you reach Xen the game just feels like its dragging and its design gets borderline unfair just to get some cheap deaths out of you with the purpose of padding out the gameplay in the final act of the game. The reason it usually happens is because the devs kind of threw everything in the first two acts and now have kind of ran out of new stuff to throw at you, so might as well get tedious and unfair to give the illusion of challenge and longer playtime.
 
Paul Haddad the guy who voiced Leon in OG RE2 died apparently, only know this cause of /v/. Here's a video with him and some Resident Evil fansite interviewing him while somebody played through 2, I didn't watch all of it but there was some neat stuff he talks about.
 
ProfDongs said:
Paul Haddad the guy who voiced Leon in OG RE2 died apparently, only know this cause of /v/. Here's a video with him and some Resident Evil fansite interviewing him while somebody played through 2, I didn't watch all of it but there was some neat stuff he talks about.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xzIoNulzrbg
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You mean to tell me that this world doesnt just has a global wide lockdown, screwing millions of innocents of their jobs and livehoods and that not only the voice of Soldier from TF2 (Rick May) died to the virus that caused this said pandemic but Paul Haddad died too?

This year is this close to taking the title of worst year ever from 2016...
 
Duncan Hills Coffee said:
If there's anything I would fix about the original RE4, it would be the pacing of the island. The island was always my least favorite section because the game feels like it's running on fumes at that point. There are still some excellent parts mind you, like the truck chase, the fights with Krauser, and blowing shit up with Mike, and even the weaker parts of RE4 blow most games out of the water. It's just you can really tell the game has already peaked and the island just feels like the game is stretching itself a little thin.

If a remake were to happen, I hope the island might get some fine-tuning so it doesn't feel like the game is wearing itself out right at the finish line.
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That's funny, I've always enjoyed the island. Where I always start getting burned out is the second half of the castle. So many sections in that chapter seem to exist just to waste your time. At least the island is back to back setpiece.

The handsome tard said:
You mean to tell me that this world doesnt just has a global wide lockdown, screwing millions of innocents of their jobs and livehoods and that not only the voice of Soldier from TF2 (Rick May) died to the virus that caused this said pandemic but Paul Haddad died too?

This year is this close to taking the title of worst year ever from 2016...
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He died of throat cancer, I think.
 
Oh Shit I'm Sorry said:
Different blades. Krauser's was bigger and his handle was curved at the top because spinning is a good trick.

And then of course he takes massive damage from getting knifed in his boss fight because the game is pure kino. Chris can punch boulders to smithereens but I'm pretty sure no one other than Leon was capable of knifing a Tyrant to death.
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That Tyrant in RE: Damnation was lucky it was taken out by that A-10 Warthog before Leon had any chance to use his knife.
 
Oh Shit I'm Sorry said:
You mean him and his 50 twins? You kill one and they'll never spawn in that area again though all the others remain completely unchanged so I've always ascribed to the idea that there's a whole horde of them. Plus that'd require him to run ahead of Leon to the next area every time (while simultaneously being able to get back in time if Leon decides to backtrack). The more merchants there are running around, the merrier.
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It also explains why he has multiple houses. I always took it that the Merchant knows the land better then Leon and also the villagers aren't hostile to him so he makes better time not having to shoot and kick his way around.

I do want the remake to make his death permenant on every difficulty in the remake just to fuck with people that like to shoot him.
 
You know, keeping with the logic I brought about the Capcom just kind of ignoring that the recurring characters are growing too old, are we suppose to believe that none of them have families too?
We know Chris and Claire are orphans, fair enough, its just them.
But we never get any news on the Kennedys and Valentines, only the Burtons.

Are we suppose to assume Leon has no brothers, sisters, cousins, uncles, aunts, and parents? At all? Its literally just him in the entire world? And given how Leon was pretty young when RE 2 happens, its not like you can say that his parents are dead or something. Would they be okay with their son being basically blackmailed by the US goverment into being their agent for the sake of his and Sherry's safety?

Same goes for the Valentines, does Jill is an only child? Even tho, wouldnt any of her family get concerned or even take issue with her getting involved with the BSAA?

I dont know man, once you begin to think about it, it opens a can of worms

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Leon: I already told you, dad, Im not a crazed gun man, Im an agent....Well the difference being that one is a job and the other is mental sickness!

Leon: Dad-dad-Put-Put mama on the phone...
 
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The handsome tard said:
You know, keeping with the logic I brought about the Capcom just kind of ignoring that the recurring characters are growing too old, are we suppose to believe that none of them have families too?
We know Chris and Claire are orphans, fair enough, its just them.
But we never get any news on the Kennedys and Valentines, only the Burtons.

Are we suppose to assume Leon has no brothers, sisters, cousins, uncles, aunts, and parents? At all? Its literally just him in the entire world? And given how Leon was pretty young when RE 2 happens, its not like you can say that his parents are dead or something. Would they be okay with their son being basically blackmailed by the US goverment into being their agent for the sake of his and Sherry's safety?

Same goes for the Valentines, does Jill is an only child? Even tho, wouldnt any of her family get concerned or even take issue with her getting involved with the BSAA?

I dont know man, once you begin to think about it, it opens a can of worms
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Well we do know that Jill's father was French and her mother was a Nikkei (a member of the Japanese diaspora), but other than that, that's about it. There are no indications she has any siblings and we don't know the current status of her parents. But your right in that we know almost nothing about the personal lives of these characters. This many games in, and their personal histories are basically a blur to us. What do they do when they aren't fighting zombies? What are their hobbies? How do they honestly feel about their neverending battle against the forces of bioterror? We just don't know. The last animated movie tried to give Chris's squad some humanity by revealing they like talking about Breaking Bad of all things and having Chris needling them on it, acting like someone who, you know, has interpersonal relationships, but that's not enough.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Well we do know that Jill's father was French and her mother was a Nikkei (a member of the Japanese diaspora), but other than that, that's about it. There are no indications she has any siblings and we don't know the current status of her parents. But your right in that we know almost nothing about the personal lives of these characters. This many games in, and their personal histories are basically a blur to us. What do they do when they aren't fighting zombies? What are their hobbies? How do they honestly feel about their neverending battle against the forces of bioterror? We just don't know. The last animated movie tried to give Chris's squad some humanity by revealing they like talking about Breaking Bad of all things and having Chris needling them on it, acting like someone who, you know, has interpersonal relationships, but that's not enough.
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I think there is this disconnection with the recurring RE protagonists. They feel like super heroes at this point, the kind that are never seen out of the costume and doing human things like playing games, watching movies, paying their taxes or anything of the sorts. It sort of dehumanizes them and makes you realize these people dont "exist" outside of when the brand needs them. They dont have a home to return to, with people they care about to welcome them back. Its kind of sad actually.


I think the only sadder thing is the fact Leon is still attracted to Ada when honestly, if something were to happen between the two, it would have already. Ada may have some slight interest in Leon but I really think its not the same Leon has for her, or at least not anymore. Ada was able to move on from their RE 2 crush, Leon seems oddly still obssessed...like, dude, she is a spy, her job is to cause this reaction in guys like you. Besides like we said, Leon and Ada are getting old, especially Ada, if Leon has this fantasy of them kissing, marrying and having a family, he should probably start rethinking it and maybe given Claire a call before both of their fertile periods end (Chris would approve of that no doubt).
 
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