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Something that makes me slightly worried about the ending.
So, with Rose as the apparent new protagonist of RE9, I’m pretty worried we’re gonna stray away from survival horror again. The last RE game with a child who was born from a previous character with supernatural powers was Jake from RE6, and even though I liked 6 more than most people, you can’t deny it has the most action schlock out of any of the games. In RE8, playing as Chris was basically call of duty so imagine playing COD but with super Eveline powers.
I just have a bad feeling that RE9 will be the real soft reboot and it will start to feel like a whole different game again.

This is all just speculation though, and we probably won’t know until the next 5 or 6 years. And who knows, maybe we won’t play as Rose, maybe she’ll be a side character or even a villain. 🤷‍♂️
 
SauceRyuKen said:
TL;DR: My guy, the Duke is MUCH more than just a fat dude. Yeah, he likes food. That's how he got so fat. He's heroic, reliable, Ethan's truest and most steadfast ally, outclassing even Chris, and taking away just that "HE'S FAT AND NOT ATTRACTIVE REEEEE" is the most surface level judgment you could possibly make. You're the one who fails to look deeper than the flab. Fat people can have a lot more to their identity than "They look fat and therefore weird". Well, unless they're Amberlynn Reid.
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I think that's where these fatass faggots are stumbling. Because the Duke is so much more than his weight. He's compassionate, helpful, and interesting. I haven't talked to a single person whose played the game who doesn't love the Duke at the end, because his personality is stronger than that. He's a respite in areas - a godsend when you need him for supplies - and he never embodies anything negative or detrimental to the player's journey. Even when Ethan swears and threatens him, he laughs. He'll pull out a cigar or a book, smile, and read. And happily cooks you recipes that are comforting and buffs to Ethan's health, speed, or defense. And he mysteriously can fetch items you've left behind - a merchant at heart despite his weight (and logic). The Duke is an ally in a region filled with monsters.

What do these lardasses have to offer? A non-binary artist: Aka. Too fat to see their genitals so they identify as a slovenly mass. They look upon the Duke and only see a mocking reflection of themselves, which in turn makes them bitter because they don't embody any of his strengths. Instead of looking to how the Duke can cook, they get angry because he loves food. Instead of appreciating that he offers the player a safe place of sanctuary, they're mad when they want a rest (because they are too retarded to kill the lycans) they need to look upon a better version of themselves. They're angry they see his gunt - Well, isn't that accurate? Actual representation? But the Duke doesn't care, where they want him to, because they want a mouthpiece, not a positive portrayal.

The Duke is what they will never be because they're obsessed only with themselves and how unfair it is that they're too lazy to change or measure up. They need to be victims. They have to be. And it's a pity they even get a voice to say it online when all they're really good at is choking on chicken bones and breaking elevators.
 
Revo said:
Yeah, I also forgot about Heissenberg. I think everyone from this could agree about the fact that both Heissenberg and Donna are better than tall lady vampire.

I know how does Donna look, you don't have to remind to everyone here about this. I mean everyone can easily find this image of Donna.
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Heissenberg is a better character than Lady Dimitrescu simply for telling some people to "SHUT THE FUCK UP" along with the fact he had some cool magnetic powers and a great boss fight. Shame we couldn't fight his human form where he'd use both his powers and his hammer but that wouldn't work well considering the place it'd be in was his factory and you'd fucked harder than any in-game cutscene of a lycan getting a jump on you. And on a personal note, it's just the fact he'll always look like the Dude thanks to the facial hair and glasses.

Rose Winters said:
Fat people: *EXIST*
Game journalists:

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That's just it: Duke is a fatshaming trope because he EATS.
Notice they are the ones calling him disgusting when the gamers mostly love him. Do these faggots want representation or not?

Edit: "Nonbinary Erotic Artist"
Why am I reading this
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"Leftovers" when he says "here's your share." For all one could sperg about Duke being a caricature, he's literally the most helpful person you got all the way to the end. He literally defied the trope of "fat bastard" and anyone thinking he'd betray the player. Even for his gut, he's yet to really elicit any digust from people that are either like this one author whose sperging about the Duke being a "tired trope" or from people who automatically go "REEEE FATTIES REEEEE."

SauceRyuKen said:
-Groan- Leave it to those people to find something to REEE at where there's absolutely nothing to REEE at. Fuck me. Here we go:

First: Another merchant in RE? Yes, please. He's loaded, he pays you money so you can make your weapons into killing machines and he will even cook you meals, for free, if you just put in the legwork hunting animals for him. I don't know if this fat erotic artist guy cooks, but cooking for someone is special, and it's great for bonding. Gustavo Fring chose to cook dinner for Walter. Granted, it backfired a little bit, but Gustavo Fring is rarely wrong, come on.

I'm not really a big fan of hunting myself, even in videogames, but when it comes down to brass tacks, it's a bunch of 1s and 0s standing in your way. Just kill your suspension of disbelief and you're good. And this is coming from a dude who would massacre entire cities and gangs of bounty hunters in Red Dead 2 but always, always, ALWAYS spare the hounds.

Second: I don't fucking understand how you're looking at the Duke to think he's just good for a cheap laugh. Ethan, a man significantly younger, fitter, and given superpowers because he ate a moldy slice of gouda once is having just the HARDEST time surviving this rough environment, at least if you picked Hardcore, and meanwhile the Duke is walking around like he's at a random starbucks. Pretty much unopposed. The zombies and lycans either don't give a fuck about him (Doubtful since they eat people) or, more likely, he eats them for breakfast. As opposed to The Merchant in 4 who was just more or less implied to be infected with a dominant plaga like Saddler and therefore safe amongst Ganados, the basic enemies have no reason to ignore the Duke at all. Vampire Mommy literally thinks so highly of him as a merchant that she doesn't turn him into weenie rolls when he starts blatantly playing both sides with Ethan, who has just killed her daughters and stolen most of her shit to sell to the Duke, who will in turn arm Ethan even harder and make him even more of a threat. Again, just to reiterate: Lady Dimitrescu doesn't think killing A LITERAL TRAITOR, IN THE PROCESS OF BETRAYING HER RIGHT NOW, IN HER LITERAL BACK YARD, is a wise move. What even IS the Duke? Is he just a cunning merchant or is he some sort of super monster? Or just that good in a fight, in all his chubby Humpty-Dumpty-like shape? None of the other lords seem to come after him either... No amount of good business would be worth not killing the man arming a dude out to murder you. It's more than likely than the Duke is actually really scary. Hell, if you throw Pipe Bombs at him all you'll make him do is cough. He's a lot more mysterious and less straightforward than the Merchant ever was. You can pretty much think anything you want about him. (And what this dude chooses to think is HE FAT N UGGO REE, because of course.)

Third: Without just spoiling the living crap out of the ending, although I think most of us know already, the Duke is... Really, really smart. Almost precogniscent. And the implications are that it's just a hunch he's got and chooses to act on against logic. Even Chris admits that he should have explained the plan to Ethan, and his soldiers get on his case about it. The Duke never failed Ethan. He was loyal, reliable, and an invaluable ally to the very end of the story. I'll just say this: The Duke is so instrumental in the end, without him things would have more likely than not ended in a lot more casualties and a chopped up Rosemary quickly snorted by Mother Miranda before Chris could get in there and Boulder Punch her to mush.

TL;DR: My guy, the Duke is MUCH more than just a fat dude. Yeah, he likes food. That's how he got so fat. He's heroic, reliable, Ethan's truest and most steadfast ally, outclassing even Chris, and taking away just that "HE'S FAT AND NOT ATTRACTIVE REEEEE" is the most surface level judgment you could possibly make. You're the one who fails to look deeper than the flab. Fat people can have a lot more to their identity than "They look fat and therefore weird". Well, unless they're Amberlynn Reid.

Leave it to this crowd to see a cool fat guy in Japanese media and REEE about it. Where's my complain post about how Bob from Tekken is not sufficiently cool/handsome/ambiguously gendered for a fat guy?
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The only arguments they got for Duke being here for a cheap laugh is his appearance and whatever happens in the rooms you meet him at. Outside of "to be hungry is to be alive" I saw one animation of his where he looked like he could fall but even then I didn't feel much of laughs out of it as someone that uses this site with no regrets or shame. These thoughts could be excused back when the game was in development since we didn't know the Duke's role in the game outside of "he sells you supplies" and the guessing could of left us wondering if he'd have any story importance and if he could betray you at some point. Now that we have the game out and people are able to see the Duke in all the cutscenes and notes he' s seen and mentioned in, the whole "he's a terrible stereotype and a tired cliche" has no ground in this beyond being part of someone's own rant that reduces the Duke to being nothing more than a complaint. Far as all the fat characters I seen in fiction goes, the Duke and Bob are pretty much one of the best I can remember that aren't used as comedic devices compared to other fat guys like Peter Griffin.
 
c-no said:
Heissenberg is a better character than Lady Dimitrescu simply for telling some people to "SHUT THE FUCK UP" along with the fact he had some cool magnetic powers and a great boss fight. Shame we couldn't fight his human form where he'd use both his powers and his hammer but that wouldn't work well considering the place it'd be in was his factory and you'd fucked harder than any in-game cutscene of a lycan getting a jump on you. And on a personal note, it's just the fact he'll always look like the Dude thanks to the facial hair and glasses.


"Leftovers" when he says "here's your share." For all one could sperg about Duke being a caricature, he's literally the most helpful person you got all the way to the end. He literally defied the trope of "fat bastard" and anyone thinking he'd betray the player. Even for his gut, he's yet to really elicit any digust from people that are either like this one author whose sperging about the Duke being a "tired trope" or from people who automatically go "REEEE FATTIES REEEEE."


The only arguments they got for Duke being here for a cheap laugh is his appearance and whatever happens in the rooms you meet him at. Outside of "to be hungry is to be alive" I saw one animation of his where he looked like he could fall but even then I didn't feel much of laughs out of it as someone that uses this site with no regrets or shame. These thoughts could be excused back when the game was in development since we didn't know the Duke's role in the game outside of "he sells you supplies" and the guessing could of left us wondering if he'd have any story importance and if he could betray you at some point. Now that we have the game out and people are able to see the Duke in all the cutscenes and notes he' s seen and mentioned in, the whole "he's a terrible stereotype and a tired cliche" has no ground in this beyond being part of someone's own rant that reduces the Duke to being nothing more than a complaint. Far as all the fat characters I seen in fiction goes, the Duke and Bob are pretty much one of the best I can remember that aren't used as comedic devices compared to other fat guys like Peter Griffin.
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And the people that write this crap probably don’t realize that he actually serves a very important purpose beyond the fat jokes. Think about how the story in this game is, how dour it is, how it starts and ends, how every single supporting character but Chris and Duke are merced immediately, and Ethan constantly getting dismembered. People would have checked out halfway through if there wasn’t a friendly, patently absurd face giving it some levity.
 
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If all you see when you look at the Duke is a fat guy and/or an offensive stereotype then you're a fucking moron. He's not the butt of any jokes, he doesn't constantly go off about food, he isn't presented in a repulsive manner. He's incredibly helpful and generous, and has an air of intrigue about him. Of course SJWs will get triggered by him because what else is new.
 
This game only took me two days to finish. Even with my roaming around looking for shiny. Doll section is up there with the Asylum level in Thief Deadly Shadows.

Duke is best boy, by the way.
 
Fuck the factory level in mercenaries, way too much shit to remember and some of the spawns in it seem so ass backward. Right around where the sisters spawn are where I end up fumbling and dropping the combo.

Mad Village is a pretty great level though. I hope we can get a pack of arena style levels like 4, like a level for the flooded area since there is no level for it. Then one for a castle, factory and village area. Probably wishful thinking though.
 
There is something special about the Duke. In your last ride in the carriage, the rug says 'Dieu Defend le Droit.'
And he isn't fat. He is a GIANT. Seriously, a fat dude could try to become that tall, but in all honesty whatever calories that you end up consuming will just go right to your gunt.
 
I think it just shows that if notorious hate and bullying forum Kiwi Farms enjoys a character that could rival Amberlynn in weight, the character is clearly a positive and welcome entity that shows personality is stronger than looks. Even if we only see him in this game, the Duke is a pleasure to have as an ally.

:semperfidelis:

I'm also being very optimistic, but I hope Resident Evil does very well and puts some western developers to shame for their shitty handling of games nowdays. While the story isn't exactly impressive or unique, Ethan's drive to save his daughter is heartwarming and heroic . He's clearly a straight, white male, who encounters only other white characters in Romania (as it should be), with cutscenes that are an appropriate length - and you can skip - with plenty of action, small rewarding sidequests, and interesting villains that don't overstay their welcome.

I hope the next entry will follow in the same vein and not fuck it up, but we'll see. For now, this is probably the one game I'd purchase at full price this year. Good on you, Capcom.
 
Saul Goodman Fan said:
Something that makes me slightly worried about the ending.
So, with Rose as the apparent new protagonist of RE9, I’m pretty worried we’re gonna stray away from survival horror again. The last RE game with a child who was born from a previous character with supernatural powers was Jake from RE6, and even though I liked 6 more than most people, you can’t deny it has the most action schlock out of any of the games. In RE8, playing as Chris was basically call of duty so imagine playing COD but with super Eveline powers.
I just have a bad feeling that RE9 will be the real soft reboot and it will start to feel like a whole different game again.

This is all just speculation though, and we probably won’t know until the next 5 or 6 years. And who knows, maybe we won’t play as Rose, maybe she’ll be a side character or even a villain. 🤷‍♂️
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You forgot Sherry with her regeneration powers.
 
I'm watching Markiplier play trough this game and I have to say Ethan is a fucking tank he just raises his arms and can block sword swings, and watching some other video where a guy is using a fly swatter to slap Lady D's ass Ethan can block several of her claw strikes by just raising his arm.
 
RE8 doesn’t sit well with me. Maybe it’s because I’m too much of a lorefag and we’ve long since left what good writing RE had to offer, but the whole “lol it’s all mold, also Spencer was inspired by this” reveal felt super cheap and uninventive.

Imagine if they really ran with the concept, and we had moldy werewolves and spore vampires instead of just regular Lycans and fly vampires. I think enemy variety is a huge step up from 7, but in terms of story it’s a massive step down. I’d even say 6 had a better story. That’s just how bad I think 8’s plot is. But, that’s probably just me; and if I did have to choose between gameplay and story, I’d pick gameplay every time.

Really RE needs to completely leave Umbrella and the Mold behind. Those stories are done. It’s time for a new big bad company that isn’t destroyed in a single game.
 
HumanHive said:
Really RE needs to completely leave Umbrella and the Mold behind. Those stories are done. It’s time for a new big bad company that isn’t destroyed in a single game.
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The big bad will more than likely change depending on whatever the next big science meme is. In the 90's people became more aware of DNA and stuff due to the popularity of Jurassic park so the T-Virus rewrote DNA and made people zombies.

Mold is really no different than the black goo from Prometheus it could basically also be nanomachines since it has the ability to recreate any structure it chooses. They just call it Mold because that's what it resembles, but you have a bazillion plausible ass pulls on what direction they could go in.
 
Marissa Moira said:
The big bad will more than likely change depending on whatever the next big science meme is. In the 90's people became more aware of DNA and stuff due to the popularity of Jurassic park so the T-Virus rewrote DNA and made people zombies.

Mold is really no different than the black goo from Prometheus it could basically also be nanomachines since it has the ability to recreate any structure it chooses. They just call it Mold because that's what it resembles, but you have a bazillion plausible ass pulls on what direction they could go in.
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its 'BIOHAZARD' so i imagine it really is just freaky deaky mold
 
Marissa Moira said:
The big bad will more than likely change depending on whatever the next big science meme is. In the 90's people became more aware of DNA and stuff due to the popularity of Jurassic park so the T-Virus rewrote DNA and made people zombies.

Mold is really no different than the black goo from Prometheus it could basically also be nanomachines since it has the ability to recreate any structure it chooses. They just call it Mold because that's what it resembles, but you have a bazillion plausible ass pulls on what direction they could go in.
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If they do go nano machines route, Chris better fight a cyborg leon on top of a metal gear.

THE RED FIELD BLOODLINE SON.
 
Revo said:
I still don't understand why sjws and other groups of people like them don't like duke, one of the characters who is helping ethan to survive against monsters from the village. I would be glad to see a big guy like Duke helping me through my journey.
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Solidarity. As SJWs are themselves village monsters, it's only natural they dislike any character who acts against the interests of village monsters.

Saul Goodman Fan said:
Something that makes me slightly worried about the ending.
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That's almost certainly what will happen. VII was a soft remake of I. VIII is a soft remake of IV. Assuming video games even still exist in the next several years, the logical next step is to soft remake V and VI. The end credits say something like "the father's story is now over", implying that the daughter's story is coming next, and Rose is clearly being established as the new Jake/Ashley, only with an extra helping of Super Awesome Powers because She Is The Chosen One. So we'll basically have Resident Evil V: Call of Duty Edition, only this time, instead of everyone's favorite gorillaneck bodybuilder and a based PoC girl with the best ass in REvil history, we're going to be stuck playing as an angry, angsty, barely-illegal TLOU Ellie with Jedi powers and daddy issues.

I'd be salty about the way things are heading, but so long as Capcom keeps REmaking old titles (I'd love to see a REmake of Zero and a ReREmake of I using the new engine, for example) and doing spinoffs (maybe with enough spinoffs, nuREvil will find its Mandalorian?), then they can drive the main series off a cliff to their heart's content.
 
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