Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster

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Google Groups has a whole heaping archive of usenet posts from the old days and you can find vintage console wars sperging in droves
There's tons of that shit and it's hilarious. People were calling nintendo all games for fags and pedophiles when the 64 was brand new. There's some old one I remember talking about ocarina of time and it's almost exactly the same shit Chad Warden was saying 10 years later about Twilight Princess. Saying Link was a little homo bitch who gets no pussy lmao
 
There's a non-zero chance that Link crawled up a great fairy's vagina at some point in the Hyrulean mythos.
In middle school I had a Zelda book in class once and I remember a kid asking me to look at it and while he flipped through it he was pondering the nature of something along those lines out loud. that same dude years later heard me and another guy in high school talking about Akira or something and he was like you guys like old anime? Yall should come over to my house I got tons of crazy shit.

and so we did one Saturday and we were into like ultra gory goofy 80s shit and expected a bunch of tapes like that but homeboy had a huge collection of like slice of life anime for girls. my friend and I were just stoned in his basement while he showed us the first couple episodes of a bunch of stuff like that. we thought we were going to see mechs or demons ripping people apart with nonsensical plot lines and instead we got to watch a 16 year old boy gush about shows about high school girls having crushes.

he probably had a future in game development.
 
What Game Gear games would you guys recommend? I might as well ask which emulator as well.

More importantly though, what hand me down ports are worth bothering with? I know Sonic games are all unique, and Shinobi is a very different game on Game Gear, being more of a Megaman esc game where you tackle levels in any order to rescue ninjas and gain them as playable characters with unique powers. I heard Streets of Rage 2 has unique content not in the Mega Drive version, but I don't know. Megaman is supposedly a mash up of two NES games as well.

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GCN version with HD texture pack definitely
I thought the GC version was heavily censored? Is it fine with original textures?

The memory card bus is a lot slower than the IDE hard drive interface or using a network attached storage option.
Maybe it's fast enough for disc drive games?

For me the real appeal is being able to softmod without doing all this nonsense of messing with boot disks and USB drives all the time, or going through the trouble of a hardware mod.
 
What Game Gear games would you guys recommend?
Game Gear was a boondoggle. And you wouldn’t believe how short these Game Gear games are.

Triple Trouble, Sonic Chaos, and Tails’ Adventure are a curiosity, but the fans have already cranked out 16 bit versions.

I did find it mildly interesting that the Jurassic Park Game Gear game ends with the park being a huge success. Really?
 
For me the real appeal is being able to softmod without doing all this nonsense of messing with boot disks and USB drives all the time, or going through the trouble of a hardware mod.
I just run all of my games with OPL off a big hdd on my old phatty ps2. I don't want to swap discs, and it works just fine. I haven't even ejected the drive tray in years, I think. My discs can collect dust, redump has me covered. I needed to borrow a codebreaker, years ago, to install FMCB. Never needed a boot disk after that. OPL has run everything I've thrown at it from the hdd, and before that HDLoader did decently for me. FMCB/FHDB and OPL have gotten pretty good.

Of course, I've mostly just played ROtTK, Dynasty Warriors, and Tiger Wood PGA Tour 2008 in the last decade. I have made it a point to replay some other games. I ran through Rogue Galaxy and Star Ocean again a couple years ago. And I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Mercenaries.

I need to start dicking around with popstarter or something for some proper PSX nostalgia. I wouldn't mind running through a few Metal Gear games, again. I do wish the 16bit emulator selection for PS2 were better. I don't need byuumode spergy accuracy to fire up Toejam & Earl, just make it playable. PicoDrive is passable, if a bit rough for SEGA systems, but I've had more misses than hits with SNES emulation.
 
What Game Gear games would you guys recommend?
There's some good Disney Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck games. As a kid I liked the Power Rangers games and Tails Adventure. Shinobi and the Shining games are good. For emulating I'd check out some of the fan translations there's a coca cola game and some good rpgs with them. If a game gear game has a master system conversion available play that instead they're always better and easier to play because of the added screen space. makes the sonic games loads better. there's a Road Runner and Coyote game I had as a kid you should avoid at all costs it's a piece of shit.
Did he want to see the prepubescent elf kid get pussy, or…?
well in half of ocarina and in twilight princess link is a grown man. the sentiment was less that though and more he spends the whole game chasing the pussy, but for nothing.
I need to start dicking around with popstarter or something for some proper PSX nostalgia
as a fellow OPL user Popstarter barely works I've fucked with it on and off for 10+ years and it isn't worth it. OPL has a few problem games that don't really work but Popstarter is more so it has a few lucky games that do work. Just use emulation or buy a cheap ps1 instead.
 
What Game Gear games would you guys recommend? I might as well ask which emulator as well.
I choose DEGA, only because it has this feature called "Enhanced PSG" which IMO makes the music sound better at times instead of the standard chiptune. Only thing is that it only distorts ONE main channel and the bass channel rather than all the instruments.

Here's an example using SOR2 Stage 1
Original:

Enhanced PSG:
 
I need to start dicking around with popstarter or something for some proper PSX nostalgia. I wouldn't mind running through a few Metal Gear games, again. I do wish the 16bit emulator selection for PS2 were better. I don't need byuumode spergy accuracy to fire up Toejam & Earl, just make it playable. PicoDrive is passable, if a bit rough for SEGA systems, but I've had more misses than hits with SNES emulation.
as a fellow OPL user Popstarter barely works I've fucked with it on and off for 10+ years and it isn't worth it. OPL has a few problem games that don't really work but Popstarter is more so it has a few lucky games that do work. Just use emulation or buy a cheap ps1 instead.
If you REALLY want to play PSX games on your PS2, you could try using MechaPWN assuming your console is the right version. This basically allows you to run burned PSX CDs on your PS2. Personally I would rather use Duckstation as I like all of the bells and whistles that come with that emulator (RetroAchievements being the major one nowadays along with CRT filters).
 
If you REALLY want to play PSX games on your PS2, you could try using MechaPWN assuming your console is the right version. This basically allows you to run burned PSX CDs on your PS2. Personally I would rather use Duckstation as I like all of the bells and whistles that come with that emulator (RetroAchievements being the major one nowadays along with CRT filters).
I ended up getting sick of POP and just shoving an xStation in my childhood ps1 after dicking around emulating for awhile. If I'm not using my old tv in my spare room (giant ass 350 pound son of a bitch mitsubishi 40 something inch crt) I just use Duckstation myself. it's just really not worth fucking around with the options on a ps2. at the mechapwn point you could just burn them for your ps1 and disc swap.
 
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What Game Gear games would you guys recommend? I might as well ask which emulator as well.
I found out yesterday that there's a japan-only Popeye beach volleyball game made by the developers of River City Ransom/Kunio, you should check that out for the novelty. I use PicoDrive, it's newer than Genesis Plus GX and it's pretty good
 
What Game Gear games would you guys recommend?
I'll preface this by saying I think this platform kinda sucks.

The 3 Madou Monogatari games are cool and have translations, plus MM Doki Doki Vacation is kinda neat.

Similarly translated Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible is best played on GG and translated, and there's a translation for Phantasy Star Gaiden.

You probably know about the Shining Force Gaiden games, the first 2 of which are playable in Shining Force CD. But the 3rd game "Shining Force Gaiden: Final Conflict" is only playable on GG.

The ports of Dynamite Headdy, Gunstar Heroes, and Ristar are neat too.

Comes up a lot if you go looking for games but Coca-Cola Kid is well made for what it is:

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Maybe it's fast enough for disc drive games?
As I understand it the MC bus is still slower than DVD loading. Which can a problem ranging from annoying (slow load times, FMV skipping) to game breaking (timing issue when loading).

For me the real appeal is being able to softmod without doing all this nonsense of messing with boot disks and USB drives all the time, or going through the trouble of a hardware mod.
It does not do anything special in that regard. For PS2 you could use FreeMcBoot for like almost 20 years now to softmod and there's no boot disks needed.

If you REALLY want to play PSX games on your PS2, you could try using MechaPWN assuming your console is the right version. This basically allows you to run burned PSX CDs on your PS2.
This is absolutely the way to do PS1 games on a PS2. MechaPwn is great.
Personally I would rather use Duckstation as I like all of the bells and whistles that come with that emulator (RetroAchievements being the major one nowadays along with CRT filters).
Personally I really like using a real CRT for PS1 games, so if I'm not using a real disc I tend to use a PSPgo attached to a CRT with real 240p output, compatibility is near perfect after years of people researching how to improve the PSP pops and there are a lot of pre-made eboots out there. It's a costly setup to get going these days but there are some very neat PSP consolizer / docking solutions which are scaling up in production and may be a better solution in the end: https://www.retromodworks.com/


It solves a major problem the PSPgo has of only supporting PS3 controllers.
 
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Thanks for the (somewhat disheartening) education on PSX on PS2 emulation, guys. Probably easier to dig out my old PSX, if it still works, and maybe go ahead and order a chip. Then again, my storage unit is 80 miles away, so I might just run epsxe or retro arch on my media box for a while.
 
More importantly though, what hand me down ports are worth bothering with? I know Sonic games are all unique, and Shinobi is a very different game on Game Gear, being more of a Megaman esc game where you tackle levels in any order to rescue ninjas and gain them as playable characters with unique powers. I heard Streets of Rage 2 has unique content not in the Mega Drive version, but I don't know. Megaman is supposedly a mash up of two NES games as well.
Both of the Shinobi games are good. Alien Syndrome is like an asset flip of the original arcade game that plays very differently. I found that out for myself because these kinds of port differences are weirdly uncharted territory. I want to say there's not much on the platform, but I haven't examined every single port, so who knows. I *think* the Ninja Gaiden game and Golden Axe rpg might not be straight SMS ports.
 
As I understand it the MC bus is still slower than DVD loading. Which can a problem ranging from annoying (slow load times, FMV skipping) to game breaking (timing issue when loading).
yeah it's better than USB but still way slower than using a disc or hard drive. it wouldn't effect most games but using a hard drive or burned discs is still the way to go. the memory card method now isn't any easier than shoving a drive in the back of a FAT ps2 it's the same thing but slower.
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yeah it's better than USB but still way slower than using a disc or hard drive. it wouldn't effect most games but using a hard drive or burned discs is still the way to go. the memory card method now isn't any easier than shoving a drive in the back of a FAT ps2 it's the same thing but slower.
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I was looking at MX4SIO & MMCE the last time I was on psxplace and ps2home, when I last updated OPL & stuff earlier this year. Its cool that they can do it, but I'm sticking with a hdd. I should get a SATA adapter for it so I can throw a bigger drive in. I need to look into that, soon. That IDE drive is getting old...
 
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I was looking at MX4SIO & MMCE the last time I was on psxplace and ps2home, when I last updated OPL & stuff earlier this year. Its cool that they can do it, but I'm sticking with a hdd. I should get a SATA adapter for it so I can throw a bigger drive in. I need to look into that, soon. That IDE drive is getting old...
I went all in and upgraded when OPL builds for exfat came out and I have I think an 8tb shoved in mine in a SATA adapter. I had an IDE one in there for years. I wanted the full US library plus room for fan translations because they're starting to trickle out and every now and then I'll find out about a PAL only release I want to check out. I got and checked out MX4ISO when it came out, and it was cool but not really something I needed so I just gave it to my friend because it was only like $20 and if you're not like me who wants everything just there already, it's nice to just load with what you're going to play when you're going to play it. especially now that 1tb sd cards are like $100 that would set you for a long time for a low price of entry. the MMCE is even better for that type of thing. I'm just one of those guys who wants to load it once and every time I hear about something, I already have it and just turn it on. every like 2 years I'll look up translations and hacks that have come out for a system and add what I want that have come out but besides that, I never have to mess with any of it again.
 
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I'm just one of those guys who wants to load it once
God, I know that feel. That is why I was kind of hopeful about popstarter. I have some 4 and 6TB sata drives laying around doing nothing, If I could load up a PSX library as easily as the PS2 library and just have it work...
I can throw an older RTX2070 into my media box and emulate, but I'd need to order a new power supply. I think I still have couple of old R7 370s, too. But I always had more issues with AMD cards and emulation.

I just need to finish working on my house so I can order myself some toys. I just dropped a few hundred on a new water softener. Balancing need and want, always a bitch.
 
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