Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster

Ponchik said:
lol the retro bubble's a massive clusterfuck and 6th gen stuff has been ludicrously expensive for years now, but it's actually discouraging to see wiis being marked up so much on ebay - i assumed they were so fucking ubiquitous in retirement homes and attics that they wouldn't go up in price that much

wiis are still fairly popular for homebrew so that might be a cause. the disc drive on mine was already wheezing and dying years ago so i haven't bothered
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I bought a wii that had everything except the AV cable for 20 dollars at a garage sale 2 months ago. Guy who sold it to me said it just sat under his TV for years.
 
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Ponchik said:
lol the retro bubble's a massive clusterfuck and 6th gen stuff has been ludicrously expensive for years now, but it's actually discouraging to see wiis being marked up so much on ebay - i assumed they were so fucking ubiquitous in retirement homes and attics that they wouldn't go up in price that much

wiis are still fairly popular for homebrew so that might be a cause. the disc drive on mine was already wheezing and dying years ago so i haven't bothered
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My personal rule of thumb on older games is that they start to really seriously go up in price when the people who grew up with them reach college age, and the Wii came out in 2006 so everyone who had one as a child is likely looking for their long lost games and hidden gems they missed. So I spent a number of years for a while trying to buy up whatever Wii games I'd think I'd ever want to play while the gettin' was good. I still managed to miss a number of them on my list due to:
  • never actually seeing them on shelves (Gunblade N.Y./L.A. Machineguns, Castle of Shikigami 3, Baroque)
  • prices never dropping (Pandora's Tower, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Metroid Prime Trilogy)
  • or just flat-out forgetting to look for them whenever I go out (Trauma Team, Monster Hunter Tri, Geometry Wars)
But I did get a lot of the games I wanted, some of them fairly rare ones, like No More Heroes 2 and Rhythm Heaven Fever. Of course, Wii bargain hunting also benefited greatly from the downfall of retail, so I grabbed a number of games from K-Mart and Sears while they were dying on some serious deep discounts. @Marissa Moira, I'll bet you did too.

But yeah, Wiis are pretty good for homebrew too but frankly the homebrew scene on them is all but dead, like there's an N64 emulator but it's been stagnant for ages now and isn't good for much more than playing Mario 64 (and you should just play the official Virtual Console version instead), and some of the more offbeat systems with emulators are fucky as hell, like some of them only work with wired Gamecube controllers and are unstable as all hell, which is really annoying when you start one and your Wii remote completely shuts off and you have to get up and hard shutdown your Wii. But if you have a classic controller and just wanna play NES, SNES, and Game Boy games, then you're good to go.

(i also bought Bully on Wii and was really excited about getting a good deal only to later find out that it's the worst version of the game, built from an earlier build than any other version and it's one of those games that shoehorned in motion controls where they weren't needed, with no option to use a classic controller)

edit: I also just now found out this exists and I want it:
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A Humble Ewok said:
I bought a wii that had everything except the AV cable for 20 dollars at a garage sale 2 months ago. Guy who sold it to me said it just sat under his TV for years.
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Pissmaster said:
My personal rule of thumb on older games is that they start to really seriously go up in price when the people who grew up with them reach college age, and the Wii came out in 2006 so everyone who had one as a child is likely looking for their long lost games and hidden gems they missed. So I spent a number of years for a while trying to buy up whatever Wii games I'd think I'd ever want to play while the gettin' was good. I still managed to miss a number of them on my list due to:
  • never actually seeing them on shelves (Gunblade N.Y./L.A. Machineguns, Castle of Shikigami 3, Baroque)
  • prices never dropping (Pandora's Tower, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Metroid Prime Trilogy)
  • or just flat-out forgetting to look for them whenever I go out (Trauma Team, Monster Hunter Tri, Geometry Wars)
But I did get a lot of the games I wanted, some of them fairly rare ones, like No More Heroes 2 and Rhythm Heaven Fever. Of course, Wii bargain hunting also benefited greatly from the downfall of retail, so I grabbed a number of games from K-Mart and Sears while they were dying on some serious deep discounts. @Marissa Moira, I'll bet you did too.

But yeah, Wiis are pretty good for homebrew too but frankly the homebrew scene on them is all but dead, like there's an N64 emulator but it's been stagnant for ages now and isn't good for much more than playing Mario 64 (and you should just play the official Virtual Console version instead), and some of the more offbeat systems with emulators are fucky as hell, like some of them only work with wired Gamecube controllers and are unstable as all hell, which is really annoying when you start one and your Wii remote completely shuts off and you have to get up and hard shutdown your Wii. But if you have a classic controller and just wanna play NES, SNES, and Game Boy games, then you're good to go.

(i also bought Bully on Wii and was really excited about getting a good deal only to later find out that it's the worst version of the game, built from an earlier build than any other version and it's one of those games that shoehorned in motion controls where they weren't needed, with no option to use a classic controller)

edit: I also just now found out this exists and I want it:
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i always saw 7th gen/late 2000s shit as the point of no return to begin with, and even as a kid i was annoyed by ninty's dogmatic obsession with forcing waggleshit into every motherfucking first party wii game (compare this tiny ass list to the 1500+ games released for the damn thing), so i was never super attached to the wii in the first place and ~10 years ago i mostly used it for playing licensed gamecube shovelware

granted it still has a place in my black rotten heart and there are a fair number of wii games i'd like to go back and play before the apocalypse, except dolphin Just Works™ and there are a gorillion options for emulating pre-6th gen games so wii homebrew is really just a novelty now - the only legit reason i can come up with for using a real wii in [current year] is if you absolutely need to play gc stuff physically since gamecube shit is so fucking expensive.. unless you're the kind of person who needs to play everything "legit" on real hardware with nonpirated games, in which case i hope the bank isn't foreclosing on your house rn

i'm mostly just concerned that the 7th gen as a whole is gradually being recognized as "retro" (just look at the /vr/ catalog ffs) with prices going up accordingly.. sooner or later i'll spot some skeevy parasite on ebay charging $500 for an OLD SCHOOL xbox one with a kinect and by then i think my brain will have fully melted into jello
 
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Pissmaster said:
My personal rule of thumb on older games is that they start to really seriously go up in price when the people who grew up with them reach college age, and the Wii came out in 2006 so everyone who had one as a child is likely looking for their long lost games and hidden gems they missed. So I spent a number of years for a while trying to buy up whatever Wii games I'd think I'd ever want to play while the gettin' was good. I still managed to miss a number of them on my list due to:
  • never actually seeing them on shelves (Gunblade N.Y./L.A. Machineguns, Castle of Shikigami 3, Baroque)
  • prices never dropping (Pandora's Tower, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Metroid Prime Trilogy)
  • or just flat-out forgetting to look for them whenever I go out (Trauma Team, Monster Hunter Tri, Geometry Wars)
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Same thing towards the end of the PS2, I picked up so much stuff for nothing. On eBay I see a used Gregory Horror Show listed at 1194 SEK($136) and I picked that one up new for 49 SEK($5.60). Rule of Rose I got as part of a "buy 3 pay for 2" deal and it was really bizarre that they even had it, it was used so someone had traded it in. That piece of shit Siren for five bucks and so many other things that are considered rare today. Clock Tower 3 is not that rare but it made me pick up Haunting Ground. Hm, what's that, it sold for $375 on Ebay two days ago, $377 three days ago and so on. Both used. I don't even think I opened my copy because I had a billion games and not much free time.

I'm not at all bitter that I lost every PS2 game I owned.
 
FuckedUp said:
Let me rant about Analogue:

Biggest kikes ever. FPGA allows you to replicate circuitry on-the-fly, right? So why in god's name do they have to sell each system they're replicating separately instead of just having a single box with cartridge adapters?
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I'm pretty sure at least some of their systems can be "unlocked" to emulate any kind of hardware you want. You still have to play the ROMs off an SD card though.

My issue with Analogue is that they handed the first run of the Pocket entirely over to scalpers.
 
FuckedUp said:
Let me rant about Analogue:

Biggest kikes ever. FPGA allows you to replicate circuitry on-the-fly, right? So why in god's name do they have to sell each system they're replicating separately instead of just having a single box with cartridge adapters? Like holy fuck. If they made that hypthetical system where you just plugged in a cartridge adapter and selected the appropriate core, I'd buy one in a heartbeat, but there's no way I'm buying their current stuff.

Imagine making an FPGA handheld with an insanely high resolution and only using it to emulate old portable consoles despite the FPGA being more than powerful enough for things like SNES and Genesis. FFS.
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Same reason they gave a job to phil fish to design the intro to one of their consoles. (The ULTIMATE pity job)
They're fucking retarded.
 
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Kosher Dill said:
I'm pretty sure at least some of their systems can be "unlocked" to emulate any kind of hardware you want. You still have to play the ROMs off an SD card though.

My issue with Analogue is that they handed the first run of the Pocket entirely over to scalpers.
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NT Mini? Yeah, but it's limited to 8-bit pre-Genesis consoles, and it costed $500 when it was even available because a game console needs aluminum casing for some reason.
 
I'm surprised that the tales of Series hasn't gotten higher in price.

Outside of gamecube Symphonia you can buy everything from 20-30 bucks.
 
Pissmaster said:
edit: I also just now found out this exists and I want it:
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Ivy the Kiwi? is solid, but the DSi Ware version is more playable with the touchscreen. It's kinda a puzzle-platformer ish game where the art style reminds me of Yoshi's Island.

As for people or companies I don't care for in the retro scene, TerraOnion of MegaSD fame is my list. They're the only game in town for Sega CD emulation on real hardware, but the flashcart is locked behind DRM that requires registering your cart for keyed firmware, making them hard to resell and the second they get a Cease and Desist your $300 flashcart is a brick unless you've backed up your files. Here's a review of it.

At least Analogue has the excuse that they want to support various hardware pieces and they don't actively block the modded firmware that can just load ROMs. Not that they could anyway considering it's written by the guy who wrote the stock firmware. They also seemed to learn from their NES clone and cut costs by cutting the analogue AV hardware.
 
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I've spent at least several dozen hours playing PS2 on the OSSC and have no idea why everyone has such a hateboner for bob deinterlacing. It's literally how it was intended to be viewed. Nobody whined when CRTs did effectively the same thing and even I'm old enough to clearly remember playing video games and watching TV shows on a standard-def CRT.
 
So what upkeep is needed to keep a retro console like the Xbox 360 in working order?
 
Marissa Moira said:
So what upkeep is needed to keep a retro console like the Xbox 360 in working order?
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Just keep it on a wide open shelf, like, at all times. The later Xbox 360 revisions and the slim do not have the same ventilation issues that the hourglass design preconditioned it to. Though this is common sense for any console of that generation, methinks.


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