Rick and Morty

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Well they had a "Feminist" episode and there is a bit of "subtle" woke shit that creeps into the rest. Beyond that its been pretty okay and typical Roland affair.

Yeah, that was episode 6 that was full of that SJWBS. Even if the rest of the show is OK, being just OK isn't truly enough.
This show needed to be great outta the starting gate to get any traction worth a damn or risk being quickly forgotten, which it will likely be after too long.

Again, any SJWBS themes weighing it down, such as episode 6, only further assures that that's what will unfortunately come to pass, honestly. Even if it was only there to poke fun at it (which it really didn't do a good job of all that much...).

Back on topic, however...
Anti-Jesus jokes haven't been controversial or edgy since like 1998.
Yeah, I dead seriously think they should have went with a satanist joke, instead - it's not like Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss broke new ground in this case, missing that opportunity... Oh, right.

To be fair, those shows only broke new ground for people, simply by aiming to be fluidly well-animated "adult" fare for once, whereas R&M is trying too hard to not come off looking re-tarded, yet again, which it otherwise is now doing, sadly.
 
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Yeah, that was episode 6 that was full of that SJWBS. Even if the rest of the show is OK, being just OK isn't truly enough.
This show needed to be great outta the starting gate to get any traction worth a damn or risk being quickly forgotten, which it will likely be after too long.

Again, any SJWBS themes weighing it down, such as episode 6, only further assures that that's what will unfortunately come to pass, honestly. Even if it was only there to poke fun at it (which it really didn't do a good job of all that much...).
Oh, i agree. It's a show that is pretty much "It was okay, but I am not going to remember it a week from now".
 
Yeah, that was episode 6 that was full of that SJWBS. Even if the rest of the show is OK, being just OK isn't truly enough.
This show needed to be great outta the starting gate to get any traction worth a damn or risk being quickly forgotten, which it will likely be after too long.

Again, any SJWBS themes weighing it down, such as episode 6, only further assures that that's what will unfortunately come to pass, honestly. Even if it was only there to poke fun at it (which it really didn't do a good job of all that much...).

Back on topic, however...

Yeah, I dead seriously think they should have went with a satanist joke, instead - it's not like Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss broke new ground in this case, missing that opportunity... Oh, right.

To be fair, those shows only broke new ground for people, simply by aiming to be fluidly well-animated "adult" fare for once, whereas R&M is trying too hard to not come off looking re-tarded, yet again, which it otherwise is now doing, sadly.

The show feels like it's sinking under the weight of its creator. The early seasons of the show were good, not just because they were deconstructing and poking fun at sci fi tropes, and not because they had a cool and nihilistic edge to them, but because at the center were the characters' relationships, which had been written with a good eye for observation. Rick may have been a cynical, self-destructive demigod, but his relationship with Morty kept him grounded and relatable. The theme of the show was that, even in a cold, uncaring universe that has no place for you, you shouldn't give up on caring for the things/people you care about. But ever since part of Season 3 and the start of Season 4, I feel that's been thrown out the window. I have no idea why the Rick in the latest episodes would give a crap about Morty other than the fact that they're part of a show where he's "supposed" to care about him. That's the formula of the show. Morty himself has gone from a sympathetic everyman trying to make sense of a universe full of madness (and standing by his principles even when it gets hard to do so,) to either a helpless victim or a cynical proto-Rick willing to murder innocent people to preserve his own life. I don't care what happens to this Morty because the universe itself may just be better off with him and his grandfather dead.

Dan Harmon has turned Rick and Morty into a sandbox where he can live out his God Power Fantasies and in true narc fashion, he has to be the smartest/most powerful one in the room. My friend thinks the latest episode was a cry for help, but I just think it was Harmon deciding that he isn't having any fun with the show anymore and that he doesn't want anyone else to have fun or derive any meaning from it either. Hence the meta-humor that renders pretty much everything in the show meaningless.
 
Given that the episode is literally his entire writing process? (No really, that is how Fart Huffing the train bullshit was, it was literally his process)
Reading the fart huffing piece in the link, it applies to just about every story with a conflict and a non-perfect ending. Literally:
1. Status quo, hero is bored.
2. Shit happens.
3. Shit gets resolved at some personal price.
4. New status quo.
Trying to spin it as some revolutionary insight is insane.
 
Reading the fart huffing piece in the link, it applies to just about every story with a conflict and a non-perfect ending. Literally:
1. Status quo, hero is bored.
2. Shit happens.
3. Shit gets resolved at some personal price.
4. New status quo.
Trying to spin it as some revolutionary insight is insane.
Oh it is absolute fart huffing, I was just posting proof that the entire episode has Harmon jerking himself off.
 
I liked the implication that, by having the idea that the machine they were in "dragged" the story out of them, that the Evil Morty plotline has more or less been obliterated. There have long since been rumblings that there was never an endgame for that and the second use of the character was just supposed to be an easter egg that the fanbase got way worked up over. Out of all of their cynical jabs at the fanbase, that stupid Uber Morty and his army of Rick underlings one was one I was happy to see just smacked to the ground.
I mean on the one hand, I'm glad they at least basically said up front that these aren't gonna mean anything down the line, but on the other hand it doesn't really feel right at this point to just completely abandon them just as a "lul fuck you guys" to the fans, especially when we know that they have the ability to write better than that.

The Evil Morty/Bird-Person/Tammy stuff I can buy as being Easter eggs up to a point; when those characters start taking over major locations and huge aspects of the show, and they make sequel episodes and follow ups on these characters that are building up to some conclusion (obviously not to the scale of Uber-evil Morty in the episode, but just a continuation), that's when it stops being a little nod. Like, I really didn't care much when they showed another Morty controlling Evil Rick at the end of that episode. It's cool, it's interesting, but it's whatever. But when you have Evil Morty take over the Citadel in an episode that directly follows up the rebuilding of it after the events of Season 3's opener, now they just wrote in stakes and now you've got people hyped and theorizing. That wasn't the fan's doing, that was your own fault for writing it like that.

People wouldn't be upset about it if they hadn't written themselves into that corner in the first place; if nothing matters, and everything about the show's torn asunder: even them parodying sci-fi tropes by making fun of how people like how they handle sci-fi tropes, then what's left? I don't care about your meta-commentary of the fandom over your plots anymore: if that's the direction you want to go then I just want it to be funny. And if you're not gonna be funny and continue to be pretentious about your own show's existence and wax poetic about the pointlessness of life, then I at least want them to do...something to compensate for that, instead of making it so you keep writing locations and concepts off the map because you were bored and don't care anymore despite 4 seasons worth of buildup (with Rick's story surrounding his past being a thing since the end of Season 1); either be episodic or have a coherent plot that doesn't try to "subvert the audience's expectations", you can't be both.
 
We're up to two episodes with Rick and Morty fucking each other this season. Will we get three?

Yeah, it's kinda scary to think that long fucking ago, Rick & Morty was never, ever, truly this gay and incestuous (as in in your face about it for the wrong reasons to do so.).

I'm sadly being reminded of The Loud House fanbase with this... rather cringy-ass SJW crap in sheep's clothing (which it most definitely is there!), honestly. Not a good thing.
 
So wait, if they weren't going to do any kind of follow up with Tammy, why did they build her up, have her hook up with Birdperson, have both of them as reoccurring characters, and then have her kill him at their wedding and then turn him into a cyborg? I mean...the end game is just "LOL, fuck you"? The fuck kind of storytelling is that?

And the Evil Morty thing is another one. If they had never brought him back after his initial appearance, I'd have been okay with that. But they went to the trouble of having him take over the Citadel of Ricks, and having that big reveal only to do nothing with it? WHAT?!

Yeah, it's kinda scary to think that long fucking ago, Rick & Morty was never, ever, truly this gay and incestuous (as in in your face about it for the wrong reasons to do so.).

I'm sadly being reminded of The Loud House fanbase with this... rather cringy-ass SJW crap in sheep's clothing (which it most definitely is there!), honestly. Not a good thing.

I'm almost afraid to ask. What is The Loud House and what's wrong with their fanbase?
 
So wait, if they weren't going to do any kind of follow up with Tammy, why did they build her up, have her hook up with Birdperson, have both of them as reoccurring characters, and then have her kill him at their wedding and then turn him into a cyborg? I mean...the end game is just "LOL, fuck you"? The fuck kind of storytelling is that?

And the Evil Morty thing is another one. If they had never brought him back after his initial appearance, I'd have been okay with that. But they went to the trouble of having him take over the Citadel of Ricks, and having that big reveal only to do nothing with it? WHAT?!
This is what happens when Dan Harmon doesn't have the people from Starburns Industries to help tard wrangle him, and instead has a bunch of diversity hires helping him create the show under Green Portal Productions.
 
So wait, if they weren't going to do any kind of follow up with Tammy, why did they build her up, have her hook up with Birdperson, have both of them as reoccurring characters, and then have her kill him at their wedding and then turn him into a cyborg? I mean...the end game is just "LOL, fuck you"? The fuck kind of storytelling is that?

And the Evil Morty thing is another one. If they had never brought him back after his initial appearance, I'd have been okay with that. But they went to the trouble of having him take over the Citadel of Ricks, and having that big reveal only to do nothing with it? WHAT?!
SUBVERTED EXPECTATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSS *Huffs some farts*
 
So wait, if they weren't going to do any kind of follow up with Tammy, why did they build her up, have her hook up with Birdperson, have both of them as reoccurring characters, and then have her kill him at their wedding and then turn him into a cyborg? I mean...the end game is just "LOL, fuck you"? The fuck kind of storytelling is that?

And the Evil Morty thing is another one. If they had never brought him back after his initial appearance, I'd have been okay with that. But they went to the trouble of having him take over the Citadel of Ricks, and having that big reveal only to do nothing with it? WHAT?!



I'm almost afraid to ask. What is The Loud House and what's wrong with their fanbase?

1) Because Harmon is a goddamn motherfuckin' HACK, that's WHY. Simple as that.

2) This really ain't the place to be doing this and pardon my autism, otherwise...
To know what you need to know, if you care:





4chan: /tlhg/ - where all the degenerates gather regularly, just like anything else on there.

There's also /delicious/ on Julay.world, where you're guaranteed to get plenty of exposure to incest and child porn of the show...

There's also numerous boorus, such as The Loud Booru, Loud House Booru, Abomination Booru (because why not.), The /co/llection - where they keep similar stuff as delicious.

And hell fucking yes, DeviantArt, Pixiv, Rule34 (Paheal, ESPECIALLY.); even furfag art sites (FurAffinity, InkBunny) have something in the thousands to millions on this series.

Yeah, I'm not some huge-ass fantard for this series, either (it's the most mediocre kids show to come out of the 2010s that one can sit down to to kill time with, if you ask me, personally.).
I'm just passing along what I know about it, places for it, and its godawful fandom/hatedom/whatever, since you asked for it and whatnot; nothing more, nothing less!
 
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Yeah, that was episode 6 that was full of that SJWBS. Even if the rest of the show is OK, being just OK isn't truly enough.
This show needed to be great outta the starting gate to get any traction worth a damn or risk being quickly forgotten, which it will likely be after too long.

Again, any SJWBS themes weighing it down, such as episode 6, only further assures that that's what will unfortunately come to pass, honestly. Even if it was only there to poke fun at it (which it really didn't do a good job of all that much...).

Did you actually watch that episode or did you just tune out as soon as someone said feminism?

The girl alien goes around trying to "break a glass ceiling" and everyone bends over backwards for her, to the point of offering her the starting quarterback position on the football team just because she was a girl, despite the fact that she'd obviously suck at it. She has to invent an organisation specifically to discriminate against her, which immediately turns on her for not being feminist enough. Oh, and the other girl that becomes the first female firefighter only saved the dogs on her first shout and let all the people die, because she's a shitty firefighter that should never have been hired. The whole plot is about how toxic modern feminism and diversity hires are, and the other plot was all about how shitty the domineering wife/cuck husband trope in most TV is.

Seriously, watch it again, it's about as anti-SJW as it gets on mainstream TV and is probably why Fox passed the show off to Hulu.
 
Did you actually watch that episode or did you just tune out as soon as someone said feminism?

The girl alien goes around trying to "break a glass ceiling" and everyone bends over backwards for her, to the point of offering her the starting quarterback position on the football team just because she was a girl, despite the fact that she'd obviously suck at it. She has to invent an organisation specifically to discriminate against her, which immediately turns on her for not being feminist enough. Oh, and the other girl that becomes the first female firefighter only saved the dogs on her first shout and let all the people die, because she's a shitty firefighter that should never have been hired. The whole plot is about how toxic modern feminism and diversity hires are, and the other plot was all about how shitty the domineering wife/cuck husband trope in most TV is.

Seriously, watch it again, it's about as anti-SJW as it gets on mainstream TV and is probably why Fox passed the show off to Hulu.

What show is this?
 
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