Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Mola Ram]

I don't think they're alcoholics, but I do think they have a drinking problem. The problem where they'll drink any overpriced murky hopwater and think that the shitty flavor is desirable because it came from an artisanal microbrewery

Bob harbors such animosity for the mayonnaise ghouls because his whole family seems to be the most stereotypical Boston flavor of ghoul imaginable.

 

[Flexo]

Protips on woodchopping (video):

As someone with some woodworking equipment on my dad's side, the idea of Bob doing firewood splitting "for hours" is hilarious. I'm sure he's basing it on Tony & Steve's efforts in Avengers 2.

And his attempts to be "knowledgeable" just make me want to laugh and sperg at the same time. (What? Live/wet wood? How do you think pruning works?)

Even Fauci is hedging on whether it came from a lab, and not just in the NY Post and on Fox. I guess simping for China is a tough habit to give up.

Like @Sexy Senior Citizen said, there's signs Fauci funded the lab this came from.

Now scroll up and reread the blather at the start of the Bob post about how many died to covid. About "the culture war."

If they blame Trump and conservatives for hundreds of thousands of deaths, what are they going to do to Fauci if he actually funded it? The guy might actually get lynched in the streets with the fervor they built up.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Bob must've had alcohol in his blood surrogate. Definitely a gamma that thinks he's to be an alpha.

Bernard Marx was, despite everything, an actual intellectual who could think for himself.

Once again, there is no way Hillary could possibly have done a better job than Trump because there was no way she would have closed the borders (free trade and Mexican gardeners, baby!) or even considered bailing out small businesses (the Invisible Hand will solve everything!).

would have kept the economy open in ways that would have made DeSantis look like the worst sort of Branch Covidian, and the same wokists that called upon Trump to shut down every business there was would have cheered it on because Our Lady of Neoliberalism was doing it.

This is a war in the same way the Muslim conquest of Spain was a war. What they don't realise is that our Battle of Tours is fast approaching.

I can't identify the sex of this person who matters; my hunch is genuine girl, albeit woked to the bone:

I'd assume that's an actual woman because of her chin. Troons tend to have very prominent chins in my experience and the same isn't true of Ethel.

 

[Captain Marvelous]

Disney is the perpetual butt-virgin; they are always gay for the first time ever:

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Bob makes a really good point here.

 

[Adamska]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Bob makes a really good point here.

It's more telling that even slow in the minds like Bob, who never read anything more complex than the cliff notes of Atlas Shrugged, can tell this is gimmicky bullshit.

You can't keep trying a Year Zero on what's already been, doubly so if you already tried a Year Zero to justify things already.

But don't worry; the mentally ill alcoholic with a low IQ will defend it anyway since Disney's success is his success.

 

[MirrorNoir]

On the topic of lesbianism and Bob, is the movie Carol that good as he claims it is, even if it’s for obvious reasons?

It's moderately decent, though the whole selling point for Carol is that the book it's based on (Price of Salt) was one of the very first mainstream LGB novels with a happy ending (the cliche "bury your gays" being a side effect of censorship issues of the era where publishers demand that gay-centric literature either had to end with the gay character dead or going heterosexual at the end).

It's directed by Todd Haynes, who's career found second life writing/directing period melodramas set in the 1940s and 1950s and updating the existential women's melodrama genre of that period.

I watched it on TCM a month ago, when they bought the rights to it to air as part of their 31 Days of Oscars marathon.

It's well made but kind of blah due to the fact that it plays the source material straight and Haynes (with these sorts of films) plays things safe creatively. It, like say Maurice (the Merchant Ivory film with Hugh Grant) are notable mainly as a curiosity in how they portray being gay in past times while playing up the melodrama of being closeted and the consequences of being outed.

 

[Woe-B-Gon (TM)]

My God, it's literally called "For the Greater Glory of Science". I liked the apocalyptic evangelicals more when they kept to street corner preaching.

Also: About half of all baby deaths at the time (at least as I recall, if I'm wrong someone smack me) happened within the first couple weeks of life. You don't generally vaccinate newborns, you bloody Science-worshipping dolts. Even today your priesthood at the vaccine-friendly CDC doesn't push for anything but Hepatitis B before the end of the first month.

(Edited to add: )

Even Fauci is hedging on whether it came from a lab, and not just in the NY Post and on Fox. I guess simping for China is a tough habit to give up.

And I just heard tell that Vox is quietly editing old articles to make its "Lab leak is a conspiracy theory!" statements more equivocating.

 

[MirrorNoir]

One of the biggest examples of this practice I can think of isn't even out yet, and that's Taskmaster. Comic version is a skull-faced hooded cape-wearing archer/knight character, a rather unique and iconic look. Movie version? Replace the skull mask with generic tacticool goggles and a low-key skull jaw, ditch the cape and rarely have him wear the hood, and swap out the spandex for an armored bodysuit (which is in some comic depictions to be fair, so eh). It's still unique enough compared to anything else in the MCU, I guess, but it loses a lot of what made the original design special.

Movie Taskmaster is actually a bizarre hybrid of two different Taskmasters: the original Perez version which is a god-awful white/black cut and past version of Red Skull and Doctor Doom visually, and the 00s UDON redesign, which was done when Marvel tried to market Taskmaster as an anti-hero when Deadpool briefly got embargoed from usage/replaced with Agent X.

The Perez version of the costume only works if you treat him like the Yakuza guy who stands around in the background in the Simpsons episode where Marge buys a pretzel franchise. He's basically Joey Wheeler from Yugi-Oh meets Phantom Limb from Venture Brothers, a loudmouth Brooklynite who in spite of his powers, lazily just trains henchmen on the Red Skull's dime and basically is middle management. Hence the MCU version largely borrowing from the UDON revamp with elements of the Perez version tossed in.

 

[Oats12345]

As someone with some woodworking equipment on my dad's side, the idea of Bob doing firewood splitting "for hours" is hilarious. I'm sure he's basing it on Tony & Steve's efforts in Avengers 2.

And his attempts to be "knowledgeable" just make me want to laugh and sperg at the same time. (What? Live/wet wood? How do you think pruning works?)

Like @Sexy Senior Citizen said, there's signs Fauci funded the lab this came from.

Now scroll up and reread the blather at the start of the Bob post about how many died to covid. About "the culture war."

If they blame Trump and conservatives for hundreds of thousands of deaths, what are they going to do to Fauci if he actually funded it? The guy might actually get lynched in the streets with the fervor they built up.

I agree. Its insane when it was revealed that Fauci funded it. I remmber as the lockdowns went on. I started to find Fauci suspense and turns out I had the right to be.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

My God, it's literally called "For the Greater Glory of Science". I liked the apocalyptic evangelicals more when they kept to street corner preaching.

Also: About half of all baby deaths at the time (at least as I recall, if I'm wrong someone smack me) happened within the first couple weeks of life. You don't generally vaccinate newborns, you bloody Science-worshipping dolts. Even today your priesthood at the vaccine-friendly CDC doesn't push for anything but Hepatitis B before the end of the first month.

To say nothing about the diseases we vaccine against, like polio, are far more crippling or life-threatening than the 'rona. It really astounds me how Massachusetts is home to inbred bumpkins like Bob and Chris despite hosting places MIT, Havard, and Boston Dynamics. Granted, Havard and its Ivy League brethren are more notorious for being degree factories for spoiled aristocratic children, but still...

 

[MirrorNoir]

Well, a big difference between Watchmen and the MCU is that Watchmen is a single twelve-issue standalone miniseries with a clearly delineated beginning and ending point (ignoring the unnecessary prequels and the Doomsday Clock sequel). It doesn't hurt that it's also one of the highest-acclaimed and best-selling graphic novels of all time, so it's been reprinted constantly since its initial release, and it's thus very easy to get your hands on a copy.

Meanwhile, Marvel's comics universe, much like DC's, is a sprawling clusterfuck of individual comic series that have been going back decades, interspersed with team-ups, crossovers, and universal resets. There's really no easy point to jump in because you will inevitably be missing some sort of context for the events that you're reading about, a problem that the MCU itself is now finding itself in. And if you actually go back to find that context, you could easily lose yourself trying to trace the storyline for a single character across multiple comics, to say nothing of the overall plot of major events that are only explained fully through a bunch of miniseries and one-shots that tie in to the "main" comic.

Marvel Comics could have taken this as a business opportunity and leveraged the popularity of the MCU into promoting their side of the business. I think they have done some MCU tie-in comics, but those weren't marketed all that well to my knowledge, and they may or may not have been canonical at all. Still, they could have leaned into that more heavily and marketed a comics universe that was all new without decades of baggage, or at the very least created some "best-of" compilations for new heroes prior to their debut movies' release. Instead, Disney just let them keep doing whatever the fuck they wanted, so they wasted a chance to revitalize their failing business and continued to push out poorly drawn, poorly written, woke trash. They're nothing more than an IP farm at this point (and DC Comics isn't much better either).

Kind of getting off topic here (really hard not to in Bob's thread, to be perfectly honest), so I'll wrap it up here by saying that with the issues like I described above, it's absolutely no surprise that manga continues to drastically outperform Western comics. I mean, shit, the Demon Slayer movie is breaking box office records left and right, even coming close to beating (and maybe surpassing) Disney's latest animated schlock job domestically. That says a lot to me.

Marvel in general has issues with regards to evergreen titles, in part because of what constitutes "evergreen" by the fans and editorial are 100% radically different to the point of tone deafness when Marvel deems something "evergreen". This is furthered by Ike Pearlmann being a notorious skinflint who refuses to allow Marvel to keep a decent size backstock of trades and hardcovers and demanding they do one printing of every new trade, regardless of it's new or back catalog material and making it next to impossible for Marvel to do reprints of existing trades that sell out immediately, resulting in a LOT of books either falling out of print within days/weeks and never get reprinted or taking YEARS to get a new printing, often in heavily modified form.

Furthermore, iconic runs are rarely collected in full. The freaking Claremont X-Men run was only collected (granted with some major omissions) in the Essential format, which was in black and white. John Byrne's Fantastic Four run is only available in omnibus format at the moment (the original trades long out of print) and even then, only the first of the two omnibus is currently in print. Spider-Man meanwhile is notorious for having key runs/stories out of print and in the case of the Avengers, a huge chunk of their most iconic stories are either OOP on a regular basis or only available in expensive hardcovers/omnibuses which also routinely fall out of print quickly.

Ironically, Marvel made a point to keep Infinity Gauntlet (their sole real "evergreen" book) in print during the climax of the Infinity Saga. But in general, there is no "Marvel Evergreen Canon" like there is DC. At best you have a couple of event stories and even then, their availability depends on the whims of TPTB on what stories stay in print consistently (and in what format).

 

[The tired cat]

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1396889411523072005
Well, I'm sure fatso isn't gonna be happy...also how much you need to suck that CW thinks you need to be changed.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I think some of it is the "seeing the seams" problem. I'd hate to say "because realism" but, let's just take Daredevil here. Just one part of his costume.
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Now seriously, how would you, as a costume maker, get a boot like the one on the right in the first place? The closest thing we have to them nowadays is cowboy boots - which you don't want to run around a city doing acrobatics in believe me. Plus they will not "hug" the leg like that or be skin tight. (they usually have handles on them to make it so you can pull them up) So well... the closest things you're going to get to the boot, is a lace up like on the right. (or maybe a kind with a zipper in the back? in either case I doubt the zipper is drawn in the comic)

Remember the most comic-book accurate costume we got of Batman was from Adam West's TV show. And you can watch several other superhero serials from back in the day to see what it was like when they really tried to make the costumes accurate (since simple tights could be done a shoestring budget). Some things are just going to be a consequence of tweaking things for reality. i.e. If Spiderman were to have a one piece outfit that allows him to do a split with his legs, then there's going to be a bulge in the crotch area where the extra fabric is to allow it.

We can also start posting videos of cosplayers who will provide in detail what the problem with every page-perfect costume is.


I'm sure we'll then learn that there were all kinds of unseen benefits to having women do the job. Like the warmth, heartbeat, and surrounding sounds helped reduce the chance the kid develops autism or something.


Not to mention that if DC ever stops printing it, the rights revert back to Moore so they've kept it in the loop ever since.


Yes they had a whole line of them.

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Some even had movie images on the cover to encourage you to get them.

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Canonicity is probably about as canon as the SW comics at this point.

IIRC there was a conscious decision not to do tie-in comics or even comic adaptations of the movies, due to a combination of rivalry between the comic and movie division (egged on by Bendis annoying the fuck out of the movie people in hopes of getting his backlog of rejected non-cape screenplays made into movies to the point that it led to them kicking Bendis and the rest of the comic people to the curb production-wise) and the comic side figuring that it was best to not do explicit tie-ins after the clusterfuck that was the Bayverse Transformers movie comics, which were constantly in a state of retcon due to the comic writers having their stories invalidated by each subsequent Bay movie.

 

[Flexo]

IIRC there was a conscious decision not to do tie-in comics or even comic adaptations of the movies, due to a combination of rivalry between the comic and movie division (egged on by Bendis annoying the fuck out of the movie people in hopes of getting his backlog of rejected non-cape screenplays made into movies to the point that it led to them kicking Bendis and the rest of the comic people to the curb production-wise) and the comic side figuring that it was best to not do explicit tie-ins after the clusterfuck that was the Bayverse Transformers movie comics, which were constantly in a state of retcon due to the comic writers having their stories invalidated by each subsequent Bay movie.

Per the wiki these comics were released in congruent with the films.

Then...
"Marvel changed its approach to film tie-in material in 2012, retroactively dividing the tie-in comics into those that exist within the MCU continuity, and those that are merely inspired by the films and television series."

Maybe that's what you're thinking of?

 

[MirrorNoir]

I suspect that Chris would be the kind of beer drinker that would be happily drinking turpentine by the end of a party. I suspect his taste buds long ago went to shit and he just vanity posts his hipster beers for asspats to impress his friends/followers, but at the end of the day he's just going to drink 'em like he doesn't even care what they taste like, like a good alcoholic.

When they talk about stuff making people cry in their beer, they probably had Chris Chippa in mind. He has misfortunes so instead of comfort eating, he comfort drinks and literally probably cries in his beer as his situation 'drives him to drink'.

I don't think so. Chris reeks of the brand-centric drinker who will only drink fancy or expensive beer/liquor, because it makes him feel sophisticated and urbane to drink fancy craft beer instead of buying cheap beer in a store that is normally drunk by trailer park and homeless "trash".

A proper alcoholic by this point would have switched to cheap liquor or cheap beer and probably buying it in 30 packs. The same way oxycotin addicts switch to heroin once their access to oxy gets cut off and they still need their fix.

Would not be shocked if Chris only drinks to look "cool" and secretly hates having to blow money on it because of his own warped views of "drinking fancy beer/liquor=urban sophisticate!".

 

[Bolo]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Bob makes a really good point here.

Too bad that isn't Robert's own point of view, he is merely borrowing it from the TV/Hollywood "safe left" take. There is a new current going that now it is okay of making fun of progressive subjects, if the the point is to make fun of the cynical fashion big media/entertainment conglomerates use minorities and LGBTQs shit for superficial pandering platitudes.

SNL just made a sketch about that... not really a sketch really, more like a quick dig at the middle of a song, but the trend is, it is okay to point that out, even if it smells of cheap lampshade bullshit.

So now Robert is just following the "right side of history", It is another one of Robert's curious traits, for all the opinions and hot takes he has, if you pay attention, most of his positions are what can be called "safe left", a broad and non committing stance of agreement of all progressive issues, mening that democrats yay, republican boo, and you are pro everything except guns and religion.

In short "safe left" is all the opinions you see hollywood stars spew so they don't lose their jobs.

And that is what Robert follows. His more extreme opinions only come in this weird self-service "rationalization" of the workings of the world, you know, the Thinkers VS belivers superior future crap. That shit is a 100% Robert, and is because there is nothing Robert loves more than to fancy himself as the evolved thinker of the future, and the main reason why he just can't help himself on twitter.

Otherwise? You could say Robert is quite the basic bitch in terms of politics, if you watch Jimmy Kimmel or check out AOC's instagram, you would know what Robert has to say about pretty much any subject.

 

[Bolo]

Sorry bout the double post.

IIRC there was a conscious decision not to do tie-in comics or even comic adaptations of the movies, due to a combination of rivalry between the comic and movie division (egged on by Bendis annoying the fuck out of the movie people in hopes of getting his backlog of rejected non-cape screenplays made into movies to the point that it led to them kicking Bendis and the rest of the comic people to the curb production-wise) and the comic side figuring that it was best to not do explicit tie-ins after the clusterfuck that was the Bayverse Transformers movie comics, which were constantly in a state of retcon due to the comic writers having their stories invalidated by each subsequent Bay movie.

I think another reason why Marvel never tried to tie their comics to movies is that they sorta tried to do that before, with Spiderman back when the Reimi movies were coming out and they gave Peter organic web shooters like in the movie.

Obviously everybody hated that, not to mention that the storyline that introduced the organic shooters was kinda wack, with the whole Ezekiel and the Spider-totem nonsese, which is a real shame, because I really liked the straczynski/Romita run otherwise... till, you know, the one more day shit, but seems like Straczynski was forced to do it, and whatever, at this point who cares.

But they sorta tried to get Spiderman to be closer to the movies, only to get back to the mechanical webshooters after, Brand new day? (I'm lazy, and i already googled how to spell "Straczynski").

After that I think they gave up having any movie continuity into their stuff. What marvel comics does get from from the MCU are the new personalities for their characters and the dialogue, that JUST DOESN'T WORK with a charismatic actor isn't delivering it, and that is why Current Marvel comics is populated solely by jagoffs.

 

[Caustic Gelatin]

I just watched it hoping that it would make sense of this
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and was of course disappointed. The video is just some woman strutting down the stairs, doing a twirl at the bottom and tittering all sexy like. I don't even think this chick is in the movie, and I'm so dead inside of capeshit that I don't even care to find out, which makes it even more nonsensical. Hell, it's actually fitting because the trailer itself doesn't even make sense.

Spoiler: spergy complaining not relevant to the discussion

I am so sick of this constant use of old songs starting off as the original song then getting mutilated into a sad piano version or a cacophony of orchestral or dubstep bullshit. I swear there was a trailer from less than 5 years ago that used Skeeter Davis's End of the World in a far more appropriate way than this movie. Why is this melodramatic song about a teenage break up given this full, hopeful and optimistic orchestral remix for a movie that's seems to be focus on building up? Not once in the entire trailer is there even a HINT of a threat. I guess this is the future we all chose when we didn't pan and bully The Avengers 2 enough...

At one point the trailer shows The Eternals(tm) magic-ing some water and corn out of their ass in a barren wasteland for the puny humans. A female voice over has this to say over that segment
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*There is the possibility that the woman says "We have watched and guided." but even if that's the case it still doesn't make a lick of sense due to the "we have never interfered" part. The whole monologue is breathy and spaced out so exact punctuation and sentence structure is difficult to parse out.

So what fucking is it lady? Did you interfere or not? Oh shit, I'm sorry. You said you didn't guide them. That's my mistake. Clearly I'm not evolved enough to be able to fathom how you can help someone progress to the point where they can accomplish wonder without giving them any guidance or interfering. And woe unto you who dare balk and call out the faults in the wonderous gifts bestowed upon us by the Mouse for ye will be met with this drivel.
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This account that Bob retweeted, I don't know anything about them but I'm guessing they're a tranny because it's a safe assumption at this point, has done nothing but squeed about MCU garbage buy using shitty canned reaction videos from something called Reaction Videos, or clapped back at people point out things that they didn't like or don't make sense, not even to him, with "don't care don't care". The caricature is so on the nose that my mind struggles with processing it as anything other than parody. There's not a shred of intellect to be found. It gets thrown around a lot these past few years but it does feel like we're on the cusp of entering Idiocracy.

I know these are dumb sci-fi films that are just excuses for bad costumes and flashy CG effects but man am I sick of the trope that ancient man were too stupid to wipe their own ass without some aliens beaming down from outer space in order to teach them how. For fuck's sake agriculture has been advancing for the entirety of human history and every culture has come up with all sorts of ways to develop new tools, crops, and techniques in order to better cultivate plants and animals. Just kinda salts my rice when people shit on the ingenuity past man as they use all the science and technology you take advantage of today.
I can only assume that people like Bob like this trope because they view science like a tech tree in a video game. As long as you pump in enough science juice and money then you get betterer science! Those aliens are better than us because they unlocked way more of the science tech tree!

Oh man, those humans haven't even developed the technology to float a foot off the ground with shiny CGI effects! How embarrassing!

 

[MirrorNoir]

Sorry bout the double post.



I think another reason why Marvel never tried to tie their comics to movies is that they sorta tried to do that before, with Spiderman back when the Reimi movies were coming out and they gave Peter organic web shooters like in the movie.

Obviously everybody hated that, not to mention that the storyline that introduced the organic shooters was kinda wack, with the whole Ezekiel and the Spider-totem nonsese, which is a real shame, because I really liked the straczynski/Romita run otherwise... till, you know, the one more day shit, but seems like Straczynski was forced to do it, and whatever, at this point who cares.

But they sorta tried to get Spiderman to be closer to the movies, only to get back to the mechanical webshooters after, Brand new day? (I'm lazy, and i already googled how to spell "Straczynski").

After that I think they gave up having any movie continuity into their stuff. What marvel comics does get from from the MCU are the new personalities for their characters and the dialogue, that JUST DOESN'T WORK with a charismatic actor isn't delivering it, and that is why Current Marvel comics is populated solely by jagoffs.

Actually the organic webshooters came during Avengers Disassembled (in a story that had NOTHING to do with that shit sandwich story but was slapped with the logo for a cheap sales boost). Also, it was Paul Jenkins who wrote the story in question, not JMS, though the story had links to the infamous "magic spider bite" plotline JMS kept shilling in the main book, much to the horror of fans.

And reaction to the move to organic webbing was met with blah than actual hate, due to the way that Marvel underplayed the change with how they did it. IE tossing it into Paul Jenkin's book which by that point was a zombie cash grab book where nothing important happened and where Jenkins was forced to do any and all movie tie-in stories that Marvel was mandating so that JMS could do whatever he want with zero movie synergy stuff interrupting his work, especially since outside a Doc Octopus and Green Goblin via flashback story, JMS was largely disdainful of Peter's rogue gallery and barely touched them/used them in favor of his totem OCs, Loki, Doctor Doom, Dr Strange villains, and more OCs galore.

 

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Even Fauci is hedging on whether it came from a lab, and not just in the NY Post and on Fox. I guess simping for China is a tough habit to give up.

Is this whats gonna make the adoring press finally turn on Fauci?

It was gonna happen eventually.