Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[RockVolnutt]

I have no reservations in calling Bob a racist. His racism is not outright hatred espoused by white supremacists--no, no, no. He operates on the racism of lowered expectations where he sees people with a higher melanin count as "exotic" and need the protection of "enlightened" individuals such as himself. Someone like Sowell is complete antithetical to Bob's worldview where African-Americans, Latinos, and other minorities need the (predominantly white) government and programs like affirmative action to thrive rather than their own merit. I recall him sending out a tweet where he claimed that Kamala Khan's status a minority was essentially a "character defect," which goes to show what he thinks of them. At some level whether conscious or not, he can never see them as equals.

His argument if I remember right was minority characters are designed to connect with minority readers as self-inserts therefore we can assume they have a background in "oppression". Because of this you don't have to make personal struggles because it can be assume the "hero" has everyone giving them a hard time too like Kamala possibly gets Goobergrape insults online despite no mentions of that in the comic. Meanwhile Peter Parker could be assumed to already be accepted because he's white, that's why you need to add him being a poor nerdy kid who had to grow up into a more responsible adult or have negative personality traits like Peter sometimes being a bit arrogant or being concentrated anxiety.

I agree it sounds pretty fucked and I'd like to add that seeing capeshit characters as self-insert wish-fulfillment is pretty :autism:. They're their own entities and not the reader no matter how much you wish to beat up people IRL as the Avengers or become diabetic Norman Osborn.

 

[Gordon Cole]

New video:

His Amazing Spider-Man 2 hate really was the dry run for his Batman v. Superman hate.

The joke is that Teddy is a lonely slob who watches Law & Order. At least he can laugh at his failings.

 

[RockVolnutt]

So was I right and he completely rewrote Rey's character from what was established in the movies? Bob's cartoon accent is not something I want to sit through.

 

[Florence]

He's still sperging about Penny Arcade.
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And then security was called in.
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“Hey, kid, wanna meet Mario?”

 

[Gordon Cole]

No dipshit, people hated Disco because it was an oversaturated genre.

Also, really? Fucking Disco's representative of the superior future?

 

[RockVolnutt]

He's made the disco comparison before by saying people hated disco because black people liked it.....or some dumb shit like that. Also the Wiemar Republic was awesome to Bob instead of a hellhole with mother/daughter prostitutes selling each other as a pair and shit covered kids running around or the terrifying hyperinflation. They totally weren't incompetent to the point that a dictatorship formed, nope, the Germans didn't give it a chance.

 

[Hiragana]

Wait, I'm confused. Where is Black Panther supposed to be from?

The highly isolationist techno-state of Wakanda, that has its own wall to keep other africans out. Said before, but it bears repeating.

I do hope they keep that aspect in, find it a great source of conflict and a great potential for character development by exploring the consequences along with being unintentionally topical in particularly for American society but other nations also have their walls. The amount of salt that would flow would be a pleasant side benefit as well.

“Hey, kid, wanna meet Mario?”

Let me show you my 1-Up Mushroom.

 

[RockVolnutt]

The highly isolationist techno-state of Wakanda, that has its own wall to keep other africans out. Said before, but it bears repeating.

I do hope they keep that aspect in, find it a great source of conflict and a great potential for character development by exploring the consequences along with being unintentionally topical in particularly for American society but other nations also have their walls. The amount of salt that would flow would be a pleasant side benefit as well.

I'm not suggesting doing it out of spite because that's awful writing but I know Bob and some others would lose their shit if you showed positive aspects to it. For example, a super advance society like that would fall apart if they opened their doors as people raid them and how their sci-fi stuff is pretty dangerous in the hands of people who have no idea what they're doing. Yes, Wakanda is dickish for holding out on cures for many diseases but that's not usually what people beg them for. The best they can reasonably do is help these...developing nations reach a comparable level on their own. That's the justification in the comics when they aren't being braindead about "OMG AFRICA!" or trying to do some commentary on black people that doesn't work as well as they think.

"Why doesn't Wakanda take over everything and start the Superior Future!?" Bob cries.

 

[MidUSA]

Also the Wiemar Republic was awesome to Bob instead of a hellhole with mother/daughter prostitutes selling each other as a pair and shit covered kids running around or the terrifying hyperinflation. They totally weren't incompetent to the point that a dictatorship formed, nope, the Germans didn't give it a chance.

fftopic:/ To be fair, a lot of the issues plaguing Weimar Republic Germany; including the hyperinflation, the rise of pro-dictatorship factions (had it not been the national socialists taking over, it'd likely have been the communists eventually) can be attributed to Germany getting fucked over by the Versailles treaty. Exorbitant war reparations sure didn't help the economy, and severely limiting their army allowed the para-military wings of the NSDAP and the Communists to run amok without the state having the means to assert control. \fftopic:

 

[Mola Ram]

DEAR GOD HOW RACIST

Also I will never not grind my teeth at his overuse of quotation marks. He's like a Gramma writing a persnickety letter to the editor about how scandalously dressed the "teen-agers" are down at the shopping "mall."

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

You know, CinemaSins(that Youtube channel Bob shit-talks for being “funair” and “wrong”, ect) made two Everything Wrong With videos for BvS(one for the regular version, and a follow-up for the Ultimate Edition), and they managed to keep the grand total just a bit over a half-hour. Even took sins away when the Ultimate Editors fixed plot holes and errors the theatrical version had.

And yet somehow CinemaSins is suppose to be “beneath” Bob’s level.

 

[Pokemonquistador]

I'm not suggesting doing it out of spite because that's awful writing but I know Bob and some others would lose their shit if you showed positive aspects to it. For example, a super advance society like that would fall apart if they opened their doors as people raid them and how their sci-fi stuff is pretty dangerous in the hands of people who have no idea what they're doing. Yes, Wakanda is dickish for holding out on cures for many diseases but that's not usually what people beg them for. The best they can reasonably do is help these...developing nations reach a comparable level on their own. That's the justification in the comics when they aren't being braindead about "OMG AFRICA!" or trying to do some commentary on black people that doesn't work as well as they think.

"Why doesn't Wakanda take over everything and start the Superior Future!?" Bob cries.

What do you wanna bet Bob saw "Coming to America" as a kid and thought that was how Africans really lived? (BTW, "Coming to America" got serious flack in the day for portraying an African country as Black Disneyland, even though it was a black wish fulfillment fantasy made by Eddie Murphy that portrayed blacks rather positively.) Personally, the idea of Wakanda always struck me as a white male nerd wish fulfillment fantasy - specifically, a way for white male nerds to alleviate the guilt of white male oppression by creating a tribe of Magical Negroes who are way, WAY smarter than the smartest white dudes. Now, I could be wrong, but I get the feeling if you were to give anyone other than an autistic white male nerd a choice between being king of a country with advanced technology and super smart scientists, and being king of a country where you have naked females cleaning your nether regions on a daily basis (as seen in "Coming to America,") then most guys are going to choose the latter.

I'm not surprised Bob likes both the Weimar Republic and Disco. Both are a product of some of the most degenerate eras of the 20th Century and we all know how much Bob looooves his degeneracy. (I seriously hope Bob doesn't begin skeeving on his niece. Even if he doesn't, I can imagine him acting like some kind of creepy cheerleader, introducing her to feminism and intersectionality and coaching her how to sound like one of those woke 5 year olds that liberal parents are always quoting on the Twitters. Poor kid.)

 

[A Random]

Marvel Entertainment had gotten Studios to leave after being sick of their shit.

Okay, I admit I'm out of the loop [about as much as Bob, though my excuse is not having access to this media], but can you explain this to me? It's not so much that I don't believe it, but rather that I'm not aware of what shit Marvel Studios was pulling that made Entertainment want them to fuck off.

 

[Mola Ram]

Okay, I admit I'm out of the loop [about as much as Bob, though my excuse is not having access to this media], but can you explain this to me? It's not so much that I don't believe it, but rather that I'm not aware of what shit Marvel Studios was pulling that made Entertainment want them to fuck off.

In a nutshell, they spent the last three years or so turning their comics into left wing SJW cringefests, getting rid of the classic stable of characters in favor of a rainbow of minorities, queers, and transgenders. They intentionally uglified most of their female characters to avoid the dreaded male gaze, made jawdroppingly stupid moves like replacing Tony Stark with a 15 year old black girl, and had their female Thor spouting feminist dogma. Sales went into the toilet. On top of that, there are a bunch of unqualified but woke assistant editors running riot over the place, their artists and writers are endlessly getting into bitchfights on Twitter with irritated fans, and if you dare to criticize them some of them will dox you and even plan violence against you. Finally late last year their SJW Editor in Chief was sacked in favor of a guy who seems to be a little more concerned with actually making decent comics.

Check out the Comicsgate thread on Community Watch; it'll get you up to speed.

 

[RockVolnutt]

Okay, I admit I'm out of the loop [about as much as Bob, though my excuse is not having access to this media], but can you explain this to me? It's not so much that I don't believe it, but rather that I'm not aware of what shit Marvel Studios was pulling that made Entertainment want them to fuck off.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/marvel-shake-up-film-chief-819205 Other way around, Studios got tired of autistic screeching when they were the ones actually bringing in the money. Disney listened to their favorite son and told Entertainment to fuck off. Flew under everyone's radar because they get excited seeing a Marvel logo.

 

[A Watchful Ghost]

You know, CinemaSins(that Youtube channel Bob shit-talks for being “funair” and “wrong”, ect) made two Everything Wrong With videos for BvS(one for the regular version, and a follow-up for the Ultimate Edition), and they managed to keep the grand total just a bit over a half-hour. Even took sins away when the Ultimate Editors fixed plot holes and errors the theatrical version had.

And yet somehow CinemaSins is suppose to be “beneath” Bob’s level.

I never understood why everyone twisted their panties when Cinemasins did a video on any film. They are harmless nitpicks about a film with the occasional criticism from time to time. Yet Bob gets salty since they get all the attention, and he gets jackshit. His hatred is nothing more than pure jealousy. If we were to rank them, then Bob would be "Beneath" CinemaSins in terms of give a fuckery.

Why? Because once again. Nobody gives a shit about what a Marvel branded Whore has to say.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Okay, I admit I'm out of the loop [about as much as Bob, though my excuse is not having access to this media], but can you explain this to me? It's not so much that I don't believe it, but rather that I'm not aware of what shit Marvel Studios was pulling that made Entertainment want them to fuck off.

To add to what @Mola Ram and @RockVolnutt said, it happened because of a falling out between Kevin Feige and Ike Perlmutter. Perlmutter is infamous for two reasons: he is incredibly cheap and he is a vindictive cunt who never lets go of a grudge. If memory serves, Feige went to the Disney brass to spin Marvel Studios off because Perlmutter did not want RDJ in Civil War because he was too expensive despite Iron Man being an integral character in the original comic. On top of that, Perlmutter had a burning hatred of 20th Century Fox because they jealously clung to the film rights to X-Men and Fantastic Four prior the acquisition. He dictated that the Inhumans effectively supplant the X-Men with no new mutants introduced because they would not have the film rights to those characters. Similarly, Marvel cancelled Fantastic Four prior to Secret Wars with Reed Richards, Sue, and their children out exploring the multiverse. All because Marvel did not have the rights at the time.

That is why we got the horrid Inhumans mini-series. Note that there was an Inhumans film on the MCU slate before Marvel Entertainment/Marvel Studios split. I am guessing that Inhumans was Perlmutter's passion project that Feige wanted nothing to do with.

As to Perlmutter's involvement in the three years of darkness at Marvel Comics, I chalk it up to negligence. The primary reason why I think he let the lunatics run the asylum is because the company was making money for Alonso's early reign as editor-in-chief. Plus, clueless assistant editors like Heather Antos and the Tumblr-grade artists probably work for peanuts compared to the likes of Olivier Copiel (who is now working with Mark Millar and did some covers for DC) and Steve McNiven. It was probably after the retailer revolt and the damaged profitability of their books that prompted Perlmutter and his band of idiots to can Axel Alonso.

 

[Gordon Cole]

He'd still be doing more than you.

Yet the "diabetic pedophile" look is so better?

He's made jokes about the new Maze Runner movie exploiting the lead actor almost dying for promotion.

Yeah, we're the assholes.

I can't wait till that doesn't happen.

 

[Rekkington]

In a nutshell, they spent the last three years or so turning their comics into left wing SJW cringefests, getting rid of the classic stable of characters in favor of a rainbow of minorities, queers, and transgenders. They intentionally uglified most of their female characters to avoid the dreaded male gaze, made jawdroppingly stupid moves like replacing Tony Stark with a 15 year old black girl, and had their female Thor spouting feminist dogma. Sales went into the toilet. On top of that, there are a bunch of unqualified but woke assistant editors running riot over the place, their artists and writers are endlessly getting into bitchfights on Twitter with irritated fans, and if you dare to criticize them some of them will dox you and even plan violence against you. Finally late last year their SJW Editor in Chief was sacked in favor of a guy who seems to be a little more concerned with actually making decent comics.

Check out the Comicsgate thread on Community Watch; it'll get you up to speed.

I think it's also important to just point out just how sharply the quality dropped, and I'm talking about the visuals. If you look at a lot of these comics they look like absolute shit. I'm not a comic expert but lurk /co/ enough to know some of the history and it's about what you would expect: SJWs and feminists, while cheap, produce terrible work and can't get anything done on time. Hellcat is a great example of this and the rumors are the lead dumbass girl just didn't finish scripts, most likely cause she was out getting part of her head shaved and collecting gay friends like Pokemon. Hellcat aside you can see it everywhere; urban millennial goofballs work for peanuts but you get what you pay for.

So yeah, the comics look awful and unfinished because of these very same people. It's just a shit product all around.

 

[The Valeyard]

I can't wait till that doesn't happen.
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Remember how Valkyrie was going to be bisexual in Thor: Ragnarok, and the scene which confirmed it ended up on the cutting room floor? The same thing is going to happen here, if a scene was even written and shot.