Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Chronic Perturbator]

Fast and Furious/DBZ Sperging.
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I swear to fuck this man's pretentious expert approach can give you an aneurism if you take him seriously and forget he's a diabetes-ridden Marioboy.

Spoiler: DBZ spergery about how moviebob is stupid

I am not sure what is his point about DBZ villains is.
Let's see a list of big ones.
Vegeta: was outright evil and abhorrent up until the Buu saga, aka the part of the show at which Toriyama threw in the towel and went 'well fuck I don't wanna do this anymore but they keep on sending shonen protagonists to my house to hold dramatic fights with a lamp post and screech about friendship so I will continue, but the villain will be a pink manchild and everything will be ten times more of a joke'.
Freeza: killed several times and is currently alive because I have no idea why. He's still evil. Absolutely evil, planet-genociding evil, the only thing that's changed is he got a bit more silly since he's now well-aware there are people stronger than him.
The androids: All dead excluding two which were saved exclusively because Krillin thought with his dick and they didn't even get to kill anyone, so it's not like they did anything evil enough to call them evil, anyways. Maybe some minor theft?
Buu: effectively beaten into being nice, reformed through friendship and shit. He's still a pink manchild who hogs all the food, but at least he doesn't blow planets up.

Dragon Ball does have an issue with characters just kinda staying around not doing anything since Toriyama seemingly is incapable of letting them drive off into the sunset to have a happy life or something, but he's clearly not meaning that, since that doesn't concern 0nly villains, and if anything, Dragon Ball's equally guilty of this as it had Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha, the Pilaf gang all end up in the good guys camp. So Bob can't even name the series correctly when talking about something from it.

Also, god, Bob's such a moron. Dragon Ball Z is one of the main staples of the whole shonen genre. It isn't a parody. It's a genuine article seeming like it's taking the piss out of things exclusively because Toriyama can't write serious things for the life of his, is only really good at comedic elements like a little baby hitting a thing really hard and because it is one of the main shonen things. Dragon Ball was more humorous and parodied things, true, but his dumb ass is incapable of getting his hot take accross right, and again, DBZ went for a more serious angle, only eventually getting more humorous because Toriyama got tired.
Back to that 'staple of the genre' thing. The vertical progression of scaling, where things have to be progressively bigger, and stronger, and numbers gotta grow? That's Toriyama's baby, since he wrote the series in such a way, and through that shaped the fans into constantly wanting to see the next big bad, and then the next one, and then the next one.
He's looking at an unironic Shonen and thinking, 'hey I can repurpose my One-Punch Man notes for this and seem smart'.
He's even completely off the mark on the martial arts thing, since Dragon Ball didn't mock it, it embraced it, it was a show about battles where you didn't need to have a bigger number, you needed to be better. Have better techniques and all that. It only started to break in DBZ where the numbers started to matter more than what you did with your pack of talents, even if there were prior incidents of Toriyama just going 'fuck it I'll just have him hit the enemy really, really hard'.

Brightest case of this shift from 'martial arts cool' to 'big numbers cool' is how Tien went from using things like flight, creating clones of himself, several arms and shit into just going fwoosh with one attack that gives him a really, really big number modifier.

TL;DR moviebob stupid

Also, seems like things are not going to be that good in the following months for people who called the smiling MAGA kid and his friends evil racists.

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1091833667041849344
There's a long list of names, check the tweet for a reply chain containing all of them.
Have Bob's tweets on the matter been archived? If he has any self-preservation, he's going to delete them, thinking he'll be noticed and sent a 'bitch, you're gon get sued' letter.

 

[cypocryphy]

Hopefully Bob has seen this.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tom-b...they-like-it-or-not?via=twitter_page?ref=home

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Guy who has shitty fashion critiques on Ben Shapiro’s fashion.

 

[Pokemonquistador]

Fast and Furious/DBZ Sperging.
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Anytime you hear Bob dropping smartypants film school terms like the Cahiers du Cinéma magazine, know that he's only doing it to appear educated. He has no idea what any of that stuff means beyond what a quick skim of Wikipedia will tell him. Case in point: (Skip to 3:23 or whereabouts...)

 

[Sissy Galvez]

Guy who has shitty fashion critiques on Ben Shapiro’s fashion.
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Blobb’s literally a muumuu and cape away from this.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Guy who has shitty fashion critiques on Ben Shapiro’s fashion.
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Do I really have to pull this card again?

 

[Rei is shit]

Anytime you hear Bob dropping smartypants film school terms like the Cahiers du Cinéma magazine, know that he's only doing it to appear educated. He has no idea what any of that stuff means beyond what a quick skim of Wikipedia will tell him. Case in point: (Skip to 3:23 or whereabouts...)

Holy fuck. Cahier du cinema was "controversal" because they had a hard on for hawks and hitchcock and argued that those low popular films had legitimate artistic merit. They championed filmmakers like Fuller who were thought of as making budget schlock. This is basic shit.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Blobb’s literally a muumuu and cape away from this.

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I could honestly see him doing that in public.

 

[Toxinophile]

Do I really have to pull this card again?
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Bob: "It was a Halloween costume years ago! I've lost weight since then! Why are you pathetic 4chan incel trolls all so obsessed with this picture?"

Even with all of these excuses Bob has said, he's gonna look like a bleached manatee no matter what.

 

[LordofCringe7206]

Hopefully Bob has seen this.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/tom-b...they-like-it-or-not?via=twitter_page?ref=home

This is actually an interesting thing in the canon of Bob Chipman. How does he view so many people on the left bashing his city nonstop for allegedly being racist while he portrays it as the not racist utopia of the world?

 

[Judge Dredd]

Fast and Furious/DBZ Sperging.

Also, god, Bob's such a moron. Dragon Ball Z is one of the main staples of the whole shonen genre. It isn't a parody.

Apologies if this comes off as "mad on the internet" but I had this conversation recently with a friend. It's one of the things I agree with Razorfist about. (Razorfist being Bob's nemesis.)

Bob is not only wrong about this, he is the problem with action films these days. Bob is of the opinion that action movies need to be self aware parodies to the point where he even considers non-ironic non-parodies like DBZ and Fast and Furious to be self aware parodies. They have to be self aware because otherwise all the over the top action and cheesy one liners are the dreaded f word. ...fun! And we can't have that. Bob thinks of himself as a highbrow art critic and thus enjoying a cool action scene is off the table. It has to be angsty oscar bait or have a "message" about the environment or gay rights or racism or disabilities or whatever else.

As a result, almost every action film of the last 5-10 years has been either family friendly CGI shit or has more winks and nods than punches and gunshots, their tongue placed in it's cheek and never removed until the credits roll. And because you can't take them seriously you can't get invested like in the classic 80s and 90s action films. They were cheesy and dumb at times, but they were also entertaining.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the only good action films of the last decade or so have been dis-liked, hated, and absolutely despised by "critics" like Moviebob. I'm talking about Hardcore Henry, John Wick, and The Equalizer. I've heard good things about Taken but I've not seen it. Hardcore Henry was burned at the stake for "sexism", The Equalizer and Taken dismissed as "dad movies". And even shows like Punisher, Daredevil, and The Orville are hated for being more popular than the critic approved "woke" alternatives.

And how are those woke alternative? Awful across the board. Nobody likes She-Ra, or Fem Ghostbusters, or Black Panther, or the new Star Wars films. I doubt most kids like them. They are just telling their parents they like them because it makes their woke parents happy.

I've not seen all the Fast and Furious movies, but the ones I have seen I remember. That tank chase over the bridge. The chase where they drag that big safe around. That car chase in London where they are flipping all the cars over. Vin Diesel fighting The Rock in the back of a plane. What are the best scenes in Black Panther or Fem Ghostbusters? No idea, because no one ever mentions the action scenes in those films, just how woke they are.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Bob is currently sperging about football on twitter

 

[cypocryphy]

Guy who has shitty fashion critiques on Ben Shapiro’s fashion.
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Does Bob wear nothing but "retro geek" t-shirts because they come in 3-XL due to people like Bob liking them?

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Apologies if this comes off as "mad on the internet" but I had this conversation recently with a friend. It's one of the things I agree with Razorfist about. (Razorfist being Bob's nemesis.)

Bob is not only wrong about this, he is the problem with action films these days. Bob is of the opinion that action movies need to be self aware parodies to the point where he even considers non-ironic non-parodies like DBZ and Fast and Furious to be self aware parodies. They have to be self aware because otherwise all the over the top action and cheesy one liners are the dreaded f word. ...fun! And we can't have that. Bob thinks of himself as a highbrow art critic and thus enjoying a cool action scene is off the table. It has to be angsty oscar bait or have a "message" about the environment or gay rights or racism or disabilities or whatever else.

As a result, almost every action film of the last 5-10 years has been either family friendly CGI shit or has more winks and nods than punches and gunshots, their tongue placed in it's cheek and never removed until the credits roll. And because you can't take them seriously you can't get invested like in the classic 80s and 90s action films. They were cheesy and dumb at times, but they were also entertaining.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the only good action films of the last decade or so have been dis-liked, hated, and absolutely despised by "critics" like Moviebob. I'm talking about Hardcore Henry, John Wick, and The Equalizer. I've heard good things about Taken but I've not seen it. Hardcore Henry was burned at the stake for "sexism", The Equalizer and Taken dismissed as "dad movies". And even shows like Punisher, Daredevil, and The Orville are hated for being more popular than the critic approved "woke" alternatives.

And how are those woke alternative? Awful across the board. Nobody likes She-Ra, or Fem Ghostbusters, or Black Panther, or the new Star Wars films. I doubt most kids like them. They are just telling their parents they like them because it makes their woke parents happy.

I've not seen all the Fast and Furious movies, but the ones I have seen I remember. That tank chase over the bridge. The chase where they drag that big safe around. That car chase in London where they are flipping all the cars over. Vin Diesel fighting The Rock in the back of a plane. What are the best scenes in Black Panther or Fem Ghostbusters? No idea, because no one ever mentions the action scenes in those films, just how woke they are.

The one thing I remember from Fast and Furious 7 is when the one guy drove straight out of a skyscraper in Dubai, along with the night fight with the aircraft. It might have been years since I saw FnF7 in theaters, but those scenes still stick with me to this day. With 80s and 90s films, the home invasion shootout between our two main leads and Gary Busey's goons in Lethal Weapon was a top notch action scene.

 

[elder god]

You’re a racist if you disagree with me and Russ about Obama’s politics!”

The more I read from these people, the more I’m convinced businesses are retarded for pandering to them, oh what’s that? You kowtow to progressives all the time but say one mean thing about a liberal? Well that means you’re an evil trump supporter! Fucking hell, these people are never satisfied.

Fast and Furious/DBZ Sperging.

Ok, so I actually read the source material for a lot of Dragonball, The Journey to the West, to make a complex point simple, no, the writer for Dragonball wasn’t satarizing the Journey to the West, he was making references to it. Son Goku is a lot like Sun Wukong, complete with goofyness. the redeeming of bad guys is present and bountiful, however, you have to understand, this was a text preaching Buddhism. The reworking of the story might get some things left in the dust, but the idea of an enemy being redeemed by the hero and fighting alongside them is commonplace in anime and this is one source of the trope. Reference isn’t parody, I feel like that needs to be said, just because Dragonball has a lot of lighthearted moments, doesn’t mean it was poking fun at the source material, especially when the source material also has many light hearted moments. Getting things this wrong with the internet at your fingertips is inexcusable. I know most people aren’t going to read the Journey to the West, but not reading it isn’t an excuse to get things this wrong.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Apologies if this comes off as "mad on the internet" but I had this conversation recently with a friend. It's one of the things I agree with Razorfist about. (Razorfist being Bob's nemesis.)

Bob is not only wrong about this, he is the problem with action films these days. Bob is of the opinion that action movies need to be self aware parodies to the point where he even considers non-ironic non-parodies like DBZ and Fast and Furious to be self aware parodies. They have to be self aware because otherwise all the over the top action and cheesy one liners are the dreaded f word. ...fun! And we can't have that. Bob thinks of himself as a highbrow art critic and thus enjoying a cool action scene is off the table. It has to be angsty oscar bait or have a "message" about the environment or gay rights or racism or disabilities or whatever else.

As a result, almost every action film of the last 5-10 years has been either family friendly CGI shit or has more winks and nods than punches and gunshots, their tongue placed in it's cheek and never removed until the credits roll. And because you can't take them seriously you can't get invested like in the classic 80s and 90s action films. They were cheesy and dumb at times, but they were also entertaining.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the only good action films of the last decade or so have been dis-liked, hated, and absolutely despised by "critics" like Moviebob. I'm talking about Hardcore Henry, John Wick, and The Equalizer. I've heard good things about Taken but I've not seen it. Hardcore Henry was burned at the stake for "sexism", The Equalizer and Taken dismissed as "dad movies". And even shows like Punisher, Daredevil, and The Orville are hated for being more popular than the critic approved "woke" alternatives.

And how are those woke alternative? Awful across the board. Nobody likes She-Ra, or Fem Ghostbusters, or Black Panther, or the new Star Wars films. I doubt most kids like them. They are just telling their parents they like them because it makes their woke parents happy.

I've not seen all the Fast and Furious movies, but the ones I have seen I remember. That tank chase over the bridge. The chase where they drag that big safe around. That car chase in London where they are flipping all the cars over. Vin Diesel fighting The Rock in the back of a plane. What are the best scenes in Black Panther or Fem Ghostbusters? No idea, because no one ever mentions the action scenes in those films, just how woke they are.

There will always be room for self-aware stuff like Judd Apptow films and movies with the likes of Deadpool, thought he problem is that every movie has to now follow the same formula in order to succeed in the critic sphere lest they get roasted in critic ratings. I will say it is thanks to the likes of jackasses like Bob Chipman, Lindsey Ellis, Harry Brewer, and many more that show me how utterly broken film criticism is at the moment with folks more focused on felating their own ego and using the pulpit to yell their own ideas, rather than actually give a fair criticism of a movie whether good or bad. They also seem to be hypocrites where they will simplistically dismiss any film that a certain group they don't like loves as not as good, or mediocre while going to great lengths to defend "their" films as perfect, ie, Ghostbusters 2016, The Last Jedi, Ocean's 8.

 

[Pokemonquistador]

The more I read from these people, the more I’m convinced businesses are exceptional for pandering to them, oh what’s that? You kowtow to progressives all the time but say one mean thing about a liberal? Well that means you’re an evil trump supporter! Fucking hell, these people are never satisfied.



Ok, so I actually read the source material for a lot of Dragonball, The Journey to the West, to make a complex point simple, no, the writer for Dragonball wasn’t satarizing the Journey to the West, he was making references to it. Son Goku is a lot like Sun Wukong, complete with goofyness. the redeeming of bad guys is present and bountiful, however, you have to understand, this was a text preaching Buddhism. The reworking of the story might get some things left in the dust, but the idea of an enemy being redeemed by the hero and fighting alongside them is commonplace in anime and this is one source of the trope. Reference isn’t parody, I feel like that needs to be said, just because Dragonball has a lot of lighthearted moments, doesn’t mean it was poking fun at the source material, especially when the source material also has many light hearted moments. Getting things this wrong with the internet at your fingertips is inexcusable. I know most people aren’t going to read the Journey to the West, but not reading it isn’t an excuse to get things this wrong.

Hell, Bob could watch Overly Sarcastic Media's video summary of the book and see just how much influence JOTW has had on anime. It's about as goofy and moralistic as any Shounen series being shown on Japanese TV today:

I think Bob's watched too many episodes of "The Critic" and figured that the main character (which is a satirical portrayal of a big city, stuck up his own ass critic,) was actually the way a real life movie critic was supposed to act.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Apologies if this comes off as "mad on the internet" but I had this conversation recently with a friend. It's one of the things I agree with Razorfist about. (Razorfist being Bob's nemesis.)

Bob is not only wrong about this, he is the problem with action films these days. Bob is of the opinion that action movies need to be self aware parodies to the point where he even considers non-ironic non-parodies like DBZ and Fast and Furious to be self aware parodies. They have to be self aware because otherwise all the over the top action and cheesy one liners are the dreaded f word. ...fun! And we can't have that. Bob thinks of himself as a highbrow art critic and thus enjoying a cool action scene is off the table. It has to be angsty oscar bait or have a "message" about the environment or gay rights or racism or disabilities or whatever else.

As a result, almost every action film of the last 5-10 years has been either family friendly CGI shit or has more winks and nods than punches and gunshots, their tongue placed in it's cheek and never removed until the credits roll. And because you can't take them seriously you can't get invested like in the classic 80s and 90s action films. They were cheesy and dumb at times, but they were also entertaining.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the only good action films of the last decade or so have been dis-liked, hated, and absolutely despised by "critics" like Moviebob. I'm talking about Hardcore Henry, John Wick, and The Equalizer. I've heard good things about Taken but I've not seen it. Hardcore Henry was burned at the stake for "sexism", The Equalizer and Taken dismissed as "dad movies". And even shows like Punisher, Daredevil, and The Orville are hated for being more popular than the critic approved "woke" alternatives.

And how are those woke alternative? Awful across the board. Nobody likes She-Ra, or Fem Ghostbusters, or Black Panther, or the new Star Wars films. I doubt most kids like them. They are just telling their parents they like them because it makes their woke parents happy.

I've not seen all the Fast and Furious movies, but the ones I have seen I remember. That tank chase over the bridge. The chase where they drag that big safe around. That car chase in London where they are flipping all the cars over. Vin Diesel fighting The Rock in the back of a plane. What are the best scenes in Black Panther or Fem Ghostbusters? No idea, because no one ever mentions the action scenes in those films, just how woke they are.

I was a little hesitant on Equalizer, mostly because I liked the original TV series. Then again, you could film Denzel Washington reading out of a phone book and make a decent bit of cash on it.

John Wick, on the other hand, set a pretty damned good high mark for 'how to action movie'. Hardcore Henry wasn't bad but the first-person perspective put some folks off.

I remember Bob sperging out in rage at the Expendables, though, and never did understand that. I believe his phrase was 'cynical cash grab'. Well, yeah, no shit Bob -- but it was also a great love letter to those old 80's action flicks we don't get nowadays.

 

[Brother Wind]

I swear to fuck this man's pretentious expert approach can give you an aneurism if you take him seriously and forget he's a diabetes-ridden Marioboy.

Spoiler: DBZ spergery about how moviebob is stupid

I am not sure what is his point about DBZ villains is.
Let's see a list of big ones.
Vegeta: was outright evil and abhorrent up until the Buu saga, aka the part of the show at which Toriyama threw in the towel and went 'well fuck I don't wanna do this anymore but they keep on sending shonen protagonists to my house to hold dramatic fights with a lamp post and screech about friendship so I will continue, but the villain will be a pink manchild and everything will be ten times more of a joke'.
Freeza: killed several times and is currently alive because I have no idea why. He's still evil. Absolutely evil, planet-genociding evil, the only thing that's changed is he got a bit more silly since he's now well-aware there are people stronger than him.
The androids: All dead excluding two which were saved exclusively because Krillin thought with his dick and they didn't even get to kill anyone, so it's not like they did anything evil enough to call them evil, anyways. Maybe some minor theft?
Buu: effectively beaten into being nice, reformed through friendship and shit. He's still a pink manchild who hogs all the food, but at least he doesn't blow planets up.

Dragon Ball does have an issue with characters just kinda staying around not doing anything since Toriyama seemingly is incapable of letting them drive off into the sunset to have a happy life or something, but he's clearly not meaning that, since that doesn't concern 0nly villains, and if anything, Dragon Ball's equally guilty of this as it had Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha, the Pilaf gang all end up in the good guys camp. So Bob can't even name the series correctly when talking about something from it.

Also, god, Bob's such a moron. Dragon Ball Z is one of the main staples of the whole shonen genre. It isn't a parody. It's a genuine article seeming like it's taking the piss out of things exclusively because Toriyama can't write serious things for the life of his, is only really good at comedic elements like a little baby hitting a thing really hard and because it is one of the main shonen things. Dragon Ball was more humorous and parodied things, true, but his dumb ass is incapable of getting his hot take accross right, and again, DBZ went for a more serious angle, only eventually getting more humorous because Toriyama got tired.
Back to that 'staple of the genre' thing. The vertical progression of scaling, where things have to be progressively bigger, and stronger, and numbers gotta grow? That's Toriyama's baby, since he wrote the series in such a way, and through that shaped the fans into constantly wanting to see the next big bad, and then the next one, and then the next one.
He's looking at an unironic Shonen and thinking, 'hey I can repurpose my One-Punch Man notes for this and seem smart'.
He's even completely off the mark on the martial arts thing, since Dragon Ball didn't mock it, it embraced it, it was a show about battles where you didn't need to have a bigger number, you needed to be better. Have better techniques and all that. It only started to break in DBZ where the numbers started to matter more than what you did with your pack of talents, even if there were prior incidents of Toriyama just going 'fuck it I'll just have him hit the enemy really, really hard'.

Brightest case of this shift from 'martial arts cool' to 'big numbers cool' is how Tien went from using things like flight, creating clones of himself, several arms and shit into just going fwoosh with one attack that gives him a really, really big number modifier.

TL;DR moviebob stupid

Also, seems like things are not going to be that good in the following months for people who called the smiling MAGA kid and his friends evil racists.
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https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1091833667041849344
There's a long list of names, check the tweet for a reply chain containing all of them.
Have Bob's tweets on the matter been archived? If he has any self-preservation, he's going to delete them, thinking he'll be noticed and sent a 'bitch, you're gon get sued' letter.

Pardon the 'tism, but Toriyama never made a DBZ. Just Dragon Ball. And its really just why that happens constantly. We need the old villian to show how tough the new one is. Tien fought Goku to basically a tie. So we need him to see how tough Piccolo is. Piccolo gets ruined by Raditz. Vegeta wets his pants at Frieza and we need Majin Buu to be completely outclassed by Evil Buu.

The more I read from these people, the more I’m convinced businesses are exceptional for pandering to them, oh what’s that? You kowtow to progressives all the time but say one mean thing about a liberal? Well that means you’re an evil trump supporter! Fucking hell, these people are never satisfied.



Ok, so I actually read the source material for a lot of Dragonball, The Journey to the West, to make a complex point simple, no, the writer for Dragonball wasn’t satarizing the Journey to the West, he was making references to it. Son Goku is a lot like Sun Wukong, complete with goofyness. the redeeming of bad guys is present and bountiful, however, you have to understand, this was a text preaching Buddhism. The reworking of the story might get some things left in the dust, but the idea of an enemy being redeemed by the hero and fighting alongside them is commonplace in anime and this is one source of the trope. Reference isn’t parody, I feel like that needs to be said, just because Dragonball has a lot of lighthearted moments, doesn’t mean it was poking fun at the source material, especially when the source material also has many light hearted moments. Getting things this wrong with the internet at your fingertips is inexcusable. I know most people aren’t going to read the Journey to the West, but not reading it isn’t an excuse to get things this wrong.

Yeah Toriyama is kind of a hack, but at least he has reasons for these things. Vegeta gets a family. Tien realizes he was lied to. Buu is my favorite in that he just gets to have a friend. And even the repetitive transforming villians all have different means of doing so. After Frieza they even try to stop the transformations. Its not high literature. Its a soap opera, but a compelling one. You can even say that its, really that good

 

[Red Hood]

I could see Bob getting impeached real easily.

Impeached, for an incident involving a hooker dressed as Peach and several trays of Peach Cobbler.