Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

[Bolo]

I don't have much faith that Snyder will create a film that functions on that level thematically, beyond Arthur posing with Excalibur and being revered by the rest of the cast. And in this era of #MeTooism, all of the earthiness and non-PC passion that made Boorman's movie memorable will be stripped out and the cast will act and think just like 21st Century Progressives.

Funny you say that, because the last two major theatrical movies about king Arthur pretty much ignore the "Elephant in the room" about the Camelot legends, that is the afair between Lancelot and Guinevere, who did that aware and willingly of their betrayal, that was the starting point for the fall of Camelot's dream.

The 2004 Clive Owen King Arthur doesn't even try to get close to the legends, on that movie Arthur is a Roman officier that joins the Britains afetr he finds out his mother is one of them. And Guinevere is just another generic warrior lady that we have seen so many times before.

The 2017 Guy Ritchie King Arthur doesn't even have Guinevere and Lancelot. Ritchie pretty much took the characters from Snatch and Two Smoking Barrels and put them in a medieval fantasy. Arthur grew up in a whore-house as "one of the blokes, eh!". Also, by the end of that movie Excalibur turns into the thunder cats sword or some shit and Arthur does animu fight. It was fun.

So I wonder if Zack Snyder, or his producers, will even bother with some of the most difficult parts of the Arthurian legends, but Lancelot's and Guinevere betrayal is important for the drama, because it puts Arthur in the most difficult position possible for him, he is the king and he must uphold justice no matter what (in this case, death to both of them), but as a man he doesn't want to see his beloved and best friend die, but the crown is on his head, and he made the rules as well. This is much MUCH more dificult to Arthur than to fight a invading army, or Morgana or whatever.

And That's because when Thomas Mallory was compiling these legends, he must have been aware that the drama of this love triangle is the the key component for it's climax and what would deliver these characters into legends.

But nah, Sir Thomas Mallory should have been aware that his depiction of Guinevere would have been deemed "problematic" over 600 hundreds years later on twitter, and now he is a shitlord nazi trying to slut shame Guinevere, yikes...

#cancelThomasMallory

 

[Patrick X Tomlinson]

Your fat, retarded, genocidal cousin....from BAWSTAAAHN

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

The worst thing you have to deal with today is China's form of capitalism mixed in with communism.

And Blob's got a massive boner for China.

So I guess what he was trying to say from the get-go was that it wouldn't matter to him if he were drone striking a Nazi that killed some rando or a different Nazi that killed someone he knew, he'd be mashing the trigger like no tomorrow.

So he basically wants extrajudicial murder?

Bob's being such a shitweasel with this.

He's also implying that Poland is Literally Hitler for er... being vaguely traditionalist.

Robert, here, is proudly agitating for an endless global war in the name of anti-fascism without defining fascism, a position arguably even less clear than the War on Terror. He obviously thinks of war as cost-free and perhaps even profitable rather than a destruction of resources and lives. His totalitarian warmongering fetish would be dangerous if it wasn't for how insignificant he is in every way except his caloric intake.

He honestly makes Dubya look like a pacifist.

It's one thing I never really got about the pro-war crowd. I blame schools, since in History class they only talk about casualties but not the ridiculous cost of rebuilding after the war, not to mention the manpower and equipment before and during is an amount of money so large we don't really believe it exists. Obviously, you can't just let other countries attack you but I never saw much of a point in other types of war past 1910.

My 2¢ is that there is a place for war as a diplomatic strategy when all other options have failed and when that war would be just. ”Poland are doing things I dislike” is not one of those times.

Let me just say:
Mi general, Augusto Pinochet,
Está su imagen en cada unidad.
Hoy, sus soldados
Marchan contentos,
Con gallardía, con gran lealtad

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We know you want to genocide Southerners, just shut up about it already.

I don't like anyone calling for genocide or lynch mobs. This is apparently controversial.

Socialists: ”there's effectively one major party run by neolibs or neocons, and that stops me turning America into a socialist wonderland”
Trumpists: ”there's effectively one major party run by neolibs or neocons, and that stops me putting America first”
Moviebob: ”there's effectively one major party run by neolibs or neocons, and that's a good thing”

The Wanssee conference protocols had a sizable postscript devoted on what to do with Czechs, since they were Heydrich's responsibility at the time. It basically created four categories based on race and ideology.
Good race+good ideology: Will be Germanised.
Bad race+good idealogy: Will be allowed to resettle in the East.
Good race+bad ideology: Especially dangerous, eliminate as fast as possible.
Bad race+bad ideology: Work to death as slave labor.

I'd be unsurprised if that's what they'd have done in the East.
Volksdeutsche would have got Germanised, Poles would basically be kept as second-class citizens, and they'd have carried on working Jews and communists to death in the camps.

 

[Foltest]

Zack Snyder should do an adaption of Camelot 3000.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

D&D The Movie:
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Bob's a fucking idiot.

First of all, there's been 2 D&D movies. The funny one with Damodar (It's got its moments). The second one had name dropped modules and some other stuff and was pretty good at the time. (The dragon SFX weren't too bad)

Second of all "Stranger Things type nostalgia, censorship-fake outrage part of the plot, JUMANJI for the sequel, then LOTR/GoTG" and "satanic panic"?

Fuck you, Bob. Game of Thrones was fucking shit. The books are shit, GRR Martin is a shit writer and a shittier person, and having it JUMAJI them into the fucking world? That was done to the death in the 70's and 80's, with people being pulled into D&D games with novels.

It wasn't "fake outrage", people legitimately talked about how it was a gateway to demon worship and the big fucking media giants like Oral Roberts and the 700 Club didn't help. And Satanic Panic isn't everyone panicking over D&D, it was over people saying "Children NEVER lie" and recovered memories claiming that daycares were having sacrificial parties.

To top it off, I hate to tell fatass this, but 90% of fucking people nowadays would last about 30 seconds in a D&D world, even if you transplanted them into the body of someone else.

See, this is where I'd look flat at Bobbo and tell him "Stay in your lane, fat fuck."

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

It wasn't "fake outrage", people legitimately talked about how it was a gateway to demon worship and the big fucking media giants like Oral Roberts and the 700 Club didn't help.

Indeed. I can literally point to evangelicals literally declaring that D+D was demon worship.

 

[Mysterious Girlfriend X]

Funny you say that, because the last two major theatrical movies about king Arthur pretty much ignore the "Elephant in the room" about the Camelot legends, that is the afair between Lancelot and Guinevere, who did that aware and willingly of their betrayal, that was the starting point for the fall of Camelot's dream.

The 2004 Clive Owen King Arthur doesn't even try to get close to the legends, on that movie Arthur is a Roman officier that joins the Britains afetr he finds out his mother is one of them. And Guinevere is just another generic warrior lady that we have seen so many times before.

The 2017 Guy Ritchie King Arthur doesn't even have Guinevere and Lancelot. Ritchie pretty much took the characters from Snatch and Two Smoking Barrels and put them in a medieval fantasy. Arthur grew up in a whore-house as "one of the blokes, eh!". Also, by the end of that movie Excalibur turns into the thunder cats sword or some shit and Arthur does animu fight. It was fun.

So I wonder if Zack Snyder, or his producers, will even bother with some of the most difficult parts of the Arthurian legends, but Lancelot's and Guinevere betrayal is important for the drama, because it puts Arthur in the most difficult position possible for him, he is the king and he must uphold justice no matter what (in this case, death to both of them), but as a man he doesn't want to see his beloved and best friend die, but the crown is on his head, and he made the rules as well. This is much MUCH more dificult to Arthur than to fight a invading army, or Morgana or whatever.

And That's because when Thomas Mallory was compiling these legends, he must have been aware that the drama of this love triangle is the the key component for it's climax and what would deliver these characters into legends.

But nah, Sir Thomas Mallory should have been aware that his depiction of Guinevere would have been deemed "problematic" over 600 hundreds years later on twitter, and now he is a shitlord nazi trying to slut shame Guinevere, yikes...

#cancelThomasMallory

I don't trust Zack Snyder to make a faithful (or even just good) King Arthur movie. It's not even that difficult to do, First Knight did a good job of that. Snyder isn't the kind of person who makes 'faithful' (or good) movies. He makes dreary, overdone movies that take themselves too seriously in the safest way possible.

Getting back on topic, Blob's opinion of the movie will depend on which way the wind blows. Rest assured, he'll wait until some alpha bitch he orbits gives an opinion, and then he'll repeat that opinion in the most fucking insufferable way possible.

 

[The tired cat]

Bob's a fucking idiot.

First of all, there's been 2 D&D movies. The funny one with Damodar (It's got its moments). The second one had name dropped modules and some other stuff and was pretty good at the time. (The dragon SFX weren't too bad)

Second of all "Stranger Things type nostalgia, censorship-fake outrage part of the plot, JUMANJI for the sequel, then LOTR/GoTG" and "satanic panic"?

Fuck you, Bob. Game of Thrones was fucking shit. The books are shit, GRR Martin is a shit writer and a shittier person, and having it JUMAJI them into the fucking world? That was done to the death in the 70's and 80's, with people being pulled into D&D games with novels.

It wasn't "fake outrage", people legitimately talked about how it was a gateway to demon worship and the big fucking media giants like Oral Roberts and the 700 Club didn't help. And Satanic Panic isn't everyone panicking over D&D, it was over people saying "Children NEVER lie" and recovered memories claiming that daycares were having sacrificial parties.

To top it off, I hate to tell fatass this, but 90% of fucking people nowadays would last about 30 seconds in a D&D world, even if you transplanted them into the body of someone else.

See, this is where I'd look flat at Bobbo and tell him "Stay in your lane, fat fuck."

I do wish someone would respond to fat ass with a list of D&D = worshipping El Diablo, like all the books, movies, bullshit PSAs, shit made by hacks like Jack Chick, the one crazy lady who couldnt do math.

 

[Meriasek]

Bob's a fucking idiot.

First of all, there's been 2 D&D movies. The funny one with Damodar (It's got its moments). The second one had name dropped modules and some other stuff and was pretty good at the time. (The dragon SFX weren't too bad)

Second of all "Stranger Things type nostalgia, censorship-fake outrage part of the plot, JUMANJI for the sequel, then LOTR/GoTG" and "satanic panic"?

Fuck you, Bob. Game of Thrones was fucking shit. The books are shit, GRR Martin is a shit writer and a shittier person, and having it JUMAJI them into the fucking world? That was done to the death in the 70's and 80's, with people being pulled into D&D games with novels.

It wasn't "fake outrage", people legitimately talked about how it was a gateway to demon worship and the big fucking media giants like Oral Roberts and the 700 Club didn't help. And Satanic Panic isn't everyone panicking over D&D, it was over people saying "Children NEVER lie" and recovered memories claiming that daycares were having sacrificial parties.

To top it off, I hate to tell fatass this, but 90% of fucking people nowadays would last about 30 seconds in a D&D world, even if you transplanted them into the body of someone else.

See, this is where I'd look flat at Bobbo and tell him "Stay in your lane, fat fuck."

I'm pretty sure Bob's main knowledge about DnD and Satanic Panic stuff comes from the Mazes and Monsters movie.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

the one crazy lady who couldnt do math.

Who?

 

[Positron]

 

[The tired cat]

Who?

I forget her name, but she pretty much started the whole "D&D is evul guyz!"after her son got lost in the steam tunells and it was believed he wanted to kill himself because of D&D.

 

[Strange Wilderness]

Scorsese compared them to theme park rides, and said he didn't consider them "cinema." Which is a fair consideration, I think, when you think about the levels of film making. This was discussed way back on a thread at Ace of Spades HQ:

So in Scorsese's mind, the Marvel movies and most other comic book movies are basically on the level of flick or movie. Now there are some in my opinion that do aim to reach above that level though - Captain America: Winter Soldier and Civil War are in my view movies that try to reach the level of film, and on the DC side of things, The Dark Knight Trilogy and Joker are films that try to reach the level of cinema. But overall, I agree with Scorsese's assessment - at the end of the day these are popcorn movies. That doesn't make them bad movies, nor does it make it wrong for you to really enjoy them or try to analyze them. But you need keep perspective on them with regards to other films and film-making as an art form. Which means that, no, Black Panther does not deserve to be considered Best Picture material.

What was really notable about Scorsese's comments were that they drew a lot of criticism from Disney and Marvel Studios - with Bob Iger wanting to hold some kind of conference with Scorsese as if he was some fucking head of state trying to sway the opinion of a foreign dignitary, and a number of the directors, producers, and actors criticizing Scorsese. The only two people on the Disney/Marvel side that actually acted like adults were Robert Downey Jr. and Scarlett Johansson, probably because they started their careers working in more artistic films of the likes that Scorsese produces.

So its just Bob being a manchild who can't appreciate his capeshit for what it is. Makes sense why he would be pissed at Scorsese for saying that the modern day version of Greek Mythology on on par with Michael Bay movies. Bob would be a lot more tolerable if he could just accept that the cheesy movies he likes are just mindless entertainment and not a cultural milestone.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

I forget her name, but she pretty much started the whole "D&D is evul guyz!"after her son got lost in the steam tunells and it was believed he wanted to kill himself because of D&D.

Her name was Pat Pulling, the org was BADD (Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons). Her son killed himself. IIRC, it was a different kid in the steam tunnels.

 

[The Nothingness]

First of all, there's been 2 D&D movies. The funny one with Damodar (It's got its moments). The second one had name dropped modules and some other stuff and was pretty good at the time. (The dragon SFX weren't too bad)

Not to get off topic but there was a third one. And to stay on topic, Bob would probably hate it because the main character is Paladin who reluctantly joins a evil crew and has a internal struggle with his morals.

 

[The tired cat]

Her name was Pat Pulling, the org was BADD (Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons). Her son killed himself. IIRC, it was a different kid in the steam tunnels.

Ye, oddly enough both kids comitted suicide and both had 3rd in their title.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

I forget her name, but she pretty much started the whole "D&D is evul guyz!"after her son got lost in the steam tunells and it was believed he wanted to kill himself because of D&D.

Stackpole did a fucking epic takedown of her that pretty much made her slink off and shut up.

But Patricia Pulling was a fucking FBI consultant and shit, and tried to claim the TSR spy game "Top Secret" made a bunch of kids go on a shooting spree.

You had people coming on 700 Club and talking about how they were able to summon demons and cast spells and shit because of D&D.

About all AD&D did back then was enable you to cast "Repel Girl" at a high level.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

You had people coming on 700 Club and talking about how they were able to summon demons and cast spells and shit because of D&D.

I would assume you were joking but then I remembered this existed.

 

[Oliver Onions]

I love the shrinking back Bob does whenever someone calls him out on his bullshit.

From "Nazis are responsible for the deaths of several people close to me." To "I never said I needed to know someone personally for them to be close to me." To "an unnamed person dear to me and Heather Hayer."

I can hear the nervous stuttering from if this was a real conversation through his keyboard.

I can absolutely picture him sat in the leaky basement apartment, hunched over his phone sweating profusely and furiously tweeting up a storm.

"How dare those FAHKING MAYO GHOULS challenge my superior intellect," he wails, launching flecks of semi-masticated chicken nuggies all over the screen.

His neighbours yell down to shut the fuck up and he solemnly adds them to the list as his shower belches up three litres of raw sewage.

He remains a virgin.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

To top it off, I hate to tell fatass this, but 90% of fucking people nowadays would last about 30 seconds in a D&D world, even if you transplanted them into the body of someone else.

This would make an awesome comedy movie concept, not gonna lie.

Imagine a table of NEETs playing D&D in their basement griping about how much better their lives would be if only they lived in a medieval fantasy world, just to have their wishes come true and realize they have an even harder time trying to cut it in the harsh environment of that world either.
Their only advantage is that they are already cool with living in filthy squalor