Careercow Robert Chipman / Bob / Moviebob / "Movieblob" - Middle-Aged Consoomer, CWC with a Thesaurus, Ardent Male Feminist and Superior Futurist, the Twice-Fired, the Mario-Worshipper, publicly dismantled by Hot Dog Girl, now a diabetic

How will Bob react to seeing the Mario film?


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I'm an environmentalist so I might be a bit biased but what I've seen is not so much ”we're all doomed”, but ”this is how we avoid being doomed”.
I'm not going to lump all environmentalists together, but the ones who do say we're doomed are usually ones with an ulterior motive. Bob's big problem is that he willfully blinds himself to China's atrocious environmental record. I heard rumors that the water quality in some areas is so bad that it's not even suitable for industrial use.
 
Trans hate crimes are on the rise! It has nothing to do with the trans population sextupling over that time period. Trust the science!
Reacting to the news and venting outrage is the typical modus operandi of people like Chris.
Imagine listening to anything on the news. The news is deliberatly constructed to produce the maximum amount of propaganda. I had the unfortunate experience of watching the news a few times over the last 6 months. Guess what it was? 90% was about covid vaccines (and whatever racial flavor of the month atrocities were occuring in my local areas). You would think thousands of people in my local area were dying by the day with the amount of coverage this benign virus gets. It just so happens that all of these stations are owned by one company, in fact they operate 294 local television news stations. You might even remember this famous video. I can't even express the amount of revulsion I feel when watching or reading the news anymore. Any supposed "thinker" would spot the obvious amount of lies and propaganda that happen on twitter and on news networks. I don't pretend to believe in Bob's retarded dychotomy, but we're not dealing with thinkers here folks. We're dealing with believers.
 
I mean, to be fair, my experience with boomers does in fact paint a lot of them as alchoholics stuck in loveless marriages who hate their life and regret a lot of their past decisions.
A lot of what happened with Boomers has to do with life back then. Back in the time of the boomers, there were certain expectations for each of the sexes. Women were expected to get married, have a bunch of kids, and be a good wife until the day she died. Men were expected to put on a suit, go to work, and provide for the family by working long hours, and otherwise be a good husband until the day he died. Media at the time presented an image that "oh this is so happy and fulfilling;" coupled with enormous societal pressure to fulfil these expectations (old maid ain't just a card game, folks!), a lot of young boomers married people they'd rather have not married. When happiness didn't follow, they began to wonder whether or not they had been sold a lie. This dissatisfaction was noticed by their children, who began wondering whether or not there was another way; think the disillusionment that followed World War 1, where people who had been sold "War is an honorable thing for young men!" experienced the horrors of industrialized warfare, and extrapolate that to the cultural level.

This would lead to the cultural upheavals in the 60s and 70s as the next generation began looking for alternatives to the Boomer mindset. Childbearing was phased out in favor of abortion. Singleness and homosexuality began to be promoted as viable alternatives to traditional marriage. Feminism began to rise. Drugs and alcohol were experimented with, and Eastern philosophies began replacing Christianity. It wasn't until the early 2010s that the traditional Boomer lifestyle was more or less phased out of American culture, leaving a vacuum to be filled by the rising LGBTWTF movement.

So Boomers had the cultural equivalent of peer pressure leaning on them for their bad choices and ruined lives. What excuse does Cinema Robert have?
 
Off topic but I never got into Gundam as a whole and it's a 50 year old franchise at this point. I loved LOTGH and I wanted to get into Gundam. What's the watching/reading order you'd recommend?
I'm not the best person to ask since I've only recently started getting around to watching any series (despite already having built a few Gunpla). That said, the thing about Gundam is that lots of the series are self-contained in their own timelines, with UC being the timeline with the most content produced for it by far. This means you can pick pretty much any non-UC series at random and give it a whirl without needing a lot of backstory or anything.

If you want to get into UC, I'd suggest starting with the original 1979 series and going from there. Some people find it hard to get into due to its age, and it's certainly rough around the edges, but I find it charming in that way. Yeah, there's dust on the cels and the mecha are frequently off-model, but the story's been engaging enough to me so far that I either don't notice or don't mind. After that, I'd recommend what I recommend for other long-running series: continue to go in release order, not chronological, since prequels/interquels usually rely on your knowledge of the older works to make the most sense; don't forget to watch the various OVAs as well, with War in the Pocket being of particular note. Just remember that quality's going to vary along the way, even within series.

(Note that a lot of the early series have been re-edited along the way into compilation movies that serve as a quicker way to get through their stories. I'd personally steer clear of those and take the time to view the series as originally envisioned.)

The only other timeline stuff I've seen is G Gundam and Iron-Blooded Orphans. I've already discussed my love of G Gundam, but IBO never really grabbed me. I got about halfway through the first season before my interest fell through. I might revisit it at some point, but right now I can't give a recommendation for it.
From my understanding G Gundam was made the way it was because the popularity for the franchise was declining at the time. Both viewership numbers and merchandise sales were dwindling. The sponsors essentially forced the production to do a major reboot of the franchise because they felt what they franchise had been doing was played out by that point.

Fans of Universal Century probably owe more to G Gundam than they realize. It might have been flawed, but it likely did a lot more to save the franchise and renew interest in the Universal Century saga.
I recall reading somewhere the boost in ratings and toy sales - when you have a hundred different Gundam models thats a given - is probably what kept the entire Gundam franchise alive past the 80s.

It did for Gundam what the Thrawn novels did for Star Wars.
I think it's no secret that Gunpla are what saved Gundam from being just another forgotten mecha series; the original show's declining ratings led to its early cancellation, and it was only due to the massive success of the toy sales that caused them to greenlight new series. From what I gather, by the time G Gundam aired, Gundam's popularity was waning some, so they felt a reboot was needed to get people (mostly kids) interested (to buy more toys).

Apparently, their attempt wasn't hugely successful as G Gundam only did slightly better than the previous series Victory Gundam, but it was enough to keep the franchise going, eventually setting up a pattern where they'd more or less alternate between UC and non-UC productions (the former to pay tribute to the series that started it all, the latter to try out new ideas and keep things fresh without being tied down to the UC story).
I'm an environmentalist so I might be a bit biased but what I've seen is not so much ”we're all doomed”, but ”this is how we avoid being doomed”.
Yeah, that's what they say anyway, but the problem is how every one of their predictions has failed to pan out. There has been some form of climatic doomsaying going on for decades now (and you can find references to the idea of the climate killing us all going back even further), and they've been wrong every single time. Remember, in the 70's they were talking about how we were about to enter a new Ice Age thanks to mankind's industry, which they changed to global warming in the 80's and 90's. I forget if it was Michael Mann or someone else in his orbit, but one of them went before Congress in the middle of a particularly warm summer to testify about how global warming was going to kill us all, and he deliberately shut off the A/C so that they'd all be sweating on camera. I'd personally think if the science were so ironclad that he wouldn't have need of such theatrics, but I guess I'm not a scientist. And then when those predictions didn't pan out, they moved to the more broad and vague "climate change" so all their bases were covered; no matter what happens, it's our fault!

This is also why they stopped setting actual dates where we were supposed to see the effects of our horrific actions. An Inconvenient Truth is probably the worst-aged documentary of the modern era; sorry, but Florida isn't underwater, Al. Now it's just a vague threat of "we have to make these changes NOW or else we'll be past the tipping point and everything will go to shit at some date in the future!"

I don't like that lefties have basically taken over any sort of environmental cause, to the point that a die-hard lefty will actually be shocked to hear that a right-winger might actually care about the environment too! What differs is in what each side wants to do. Conservatives who focus on the environment are generally for conservation (go figure), being respectful of nature while not abandoning humanity's technological progress, often focusing on a local level. Lefty environmentalists tend to pursue broad, sweeping changes to society as a whole to scale back on human industry, with the most extreme elements agitating for the destruction of modern civilization to save the planet. Put another way, a conservationist group would cut down trees for timber but manage the forest responsibly and replant trees to encourage new growth, while an environmentalist group would ban logging and any other forest management to keep nature pristine. (That the latter approach could be argued to be making wildfires in lefty states considerably more dangerous and leaving forests in a much worse state afterward is left as an exercise to the reader.)

To put it simply, I much prefer a targeted approach to cleaning up waste sites and managing our land responsibly over a broad and overbearing government dictating every single thing you're allowed to do in the pursuit of some nebulous goal, especially when any gains we might have made towards that goal are offset by other nations continuing to not give a fuck (cough cough China cough). I know Bob gets a kick out of imagining the Mayo Ghouls being forced to do shit they don't want, but that's not for me.
 
I'm an environmentalist so I might be a bit biased but what I've seen is not so much ”we're all doomed”, but ”this is how we avoid being doomed”.
Just like the last dozen times we were doomed?

I mean I LIKE the environment generally being taken care of (yay flora & fauna and all that) but the entire last year's ordeal with COVID should have instructed everyone in exactly how much a government "solution" has to do with the actual problem.

To rip on Jordan Peterson: Focus on keeping your own backyard clean.
 
Bob's big problem is that he willfully blinds himself to China's atrocious environmental record
Definitely. Even if the UK reached net zero by 2025, banned all meat and basically did everything the most batshit XR members want, the existence of China would mean that would do nothing. The climate is a global issue and the last I checked China was on the globe.
I don't like that lefties have basically taken over any sort of environmental cause, to the point that a die-hard lefty will actually be shocked to hear that a right-winger might actually care about the environment too!
This. As an aside, the people who insist that more government will magically solve climate change (looking at you, Caroline Lucas and Zarah Sultana) should look at how hilariously inefficient any form of government-run enterprise invariably is. If we passed these people's pet environmental projects all we'd notice would be more taxes and more money in the pockets of whichever civil servants were responsible for delivering them.
 
Just like the last dozen times we were doomed?

It's...complicated.
The behavior of environmentalists has been incredibly dishonest. When you spend thirty years assuring everyone that the world is ten years from destruction and people stop believing you, IT IS NOT because of a cabal of right-wing agitators in the pay of Big Oil.
If the media has been covering the story badly, then it is up to environmentalists to explain the misapprehension.
Wrong I can forgive, but enviromentalists are outright laughing stocks. And it's on them.
 
Saw it with my own eyes, from 1986 to 1996 it went from "The Earth is cooling, we're all doomed unless we do something major that will require a total reform of society and an end to consumerism as we know it!" to "The world's getting hotter, we're all doomed unless we do something major that will require a total reform of society and an end to the consumerism as we know it!"

And they never said WHAT exactly was causing this sudden change from one extreme to the other, inside a decade, which on a geological time scale is a practically unmeasurable micro-second.... but they were SURE it was happening and there was no time for debate: there was, in fact, only enough time to empower government to regulate everything you drank/ate/bought/slept in and if you said "no" we'd all be sizzling like bacon in a pan by 2006.....

Spoiler: didn't happen. Hence the need to invent the term "climate crisis" to spur action.... claims of rising or lowering temperatures can be looked up and checked, but just calling every day where the temperature is above or below the average "a crisis" is harder to fight the hysteria of. You get a severe thunderstorm in your town, bad enough to knock down trees, knock out the power, and flood roads, about once every 2 years, right? It happens.... but I've seen 20-somethings react to one blowing through with hand-wringing about how it's all the fault of "the climate crisis" , even when I tell them I've been around long enough to have seen a dozen such storms, nope, doesn't count, these are 'different' somehow.... or "never happened before" , yeah, from your perspective, you aren't old enough yet to have experienced say, the 20 year flood cycle....

And that's before you get to the insanity of them throwing things into the "climate change" bucket that aren't even weather.....like earthquakes, avalanches and fires that were the result of accidents or deliberate arson.
 
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I'm leaning on the side of not. The girl clearly had a knife and was in the process of trying to stab some other girl. This wasn't a cop kneeling on someone for over 8 minutes. This was a cop blasting an honor roll dindu. Plus I really do think that everyone's just tired of the protesting. Lastly, the clips I've seen from Columbus's mayor and the like haven't thrown the cop under the bus and publicly wished for his prosecution like Minneapolis's did so there's not even pressure politically.

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Cope, thy name is Robert Chipman
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It'd be sad if it weren't for the fact that he's physically and morally and ideologically reprehensible
You know there are a lot of people who could and should argue against early marriage, pairbonding or whatever you wanna call it. There are a lot of people who stay in realtionships they dont like out of comfort for far too long. But not moviebob, infact i bet he would be happier if such a system was still inplace. Say what you want about a nagging wife you dont like, it sure bets 70 years of loneliness without direction just farting around doing nothing.
 
You know there are a lot of people who could and should argue against early marriage, pairbonding or whatever you wanna call it. There are a lot of people who stay in realtionships they dont like out of comfort for far too long. But not moviebob, infact i bet he would be happier if such a system was still inplace. Say what you want about a nagging wife you dont like, it sure bets 70 years of loneliness without direction just farting around doing nothing.

You wonder if a lot of these "nu-male" people like Bob that rail against tradition are just mad that no matter how much they loosen the sexual mores of people and encourage you to have more open relationships and shun the "selfish" idea of committed relations... they STILL can't get laid?

Like, even in the streets of ancient Rome, they'd still be cucked left and right by BOTH sexes and they know it?
 
And Chauvin's guilty on all counts and he's going straight to jail. Let's see what the next 12 hours hold.

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Such fucking troglodoye thinking honestly disgust me. No regard of justice or whats right. No regard of the conscuenses of what this ruling brings. That chavin was trown out there to appease the mob. That policing in america will change not to be more inclusive but undoubtly for the worse as the only ones left who would want to be police officers are psychopaths or unfit for the role. No this is all about moviebobs sportsball team, that they won a victory. Fucking disgusting.
Especially since crops require certain climates and environments as well as time. Factories are a bit more flexible.

Not impossible to be sure. But I question how well the blue areas can shift farming production. (Which also takes time- you can plow up an entire field, doesn't mean what you plant there is going to grow soon enough to eat.) Even if they could shift production, I wonder how well they can handle the scale of trying to sustain a city.
From what i have heard from friends who work in mainatance stateside is that american factories are behind the times a lot when it comes to technolgy and systems and are only kept afloat beacuse of goverment subsides. But i dont know how true that is.
 
Climate loons claim that no matter what we do now, the planet is doomed. Yet they still want all these insane, progress-killing regulations, even though by their own admission it won’t make a difference. They just want to ruin livelihoods and lives because they get off on domination. Bob’s a sicko, we know that, but this is a darker level of pathology for him.
They keep pushing the 12-year conspiracy and they wonder why more people are becoming global warming skeptics.
 
After reading a couple of tweet,s we should invent the concept of Bob's Razor in the same way Occam's Razor exists. If Bob says something vage that implies violence, the answer is the most horrific and sadistic form of violence that can be concieved by Bob.

I love when he got told that America doesn't have the best track record on assasinating south american presidents that he suddenly changed the tune to "by we i meant the enviromental-concious" and was extremely evasive by answering to what he wants to do with Bolsonaro.
it sure bets 70 years of loneliness without direction just farting around doing nothing.
This is another thing that Bob cannot have for the hell of it: purpouse. A lot of guys find purpouse in a family by being the breadwinner and rising a child. Lonely fucks commit to enormous projects like building a house by themselves, having a far or writing books. Bob, in all is inmense superiority and wisdom, he can only muster that he exists to consoom and then consoom the next thing in line. This is why Covid has probably a very specific kind of hell for him: his life lacked meaning while there was no capeshit to watch.
 
It's...complicated.
The behavior of environmentalists has been incredibly dishonest. When you spend thirty years assuring everyone that the world is ten years from destruction and people stop believing you, IT IS NOT because of a cabal of right-wing agitators in the pay of Big Oil.
If the media has been covering the story badly, then it is up to environmentalists to explain the misapprehension.
Wrong I can forgive, but enviromentalists are outright laughing stocks. And it's on them.
Bingo. I remember reading one account of during the global cooling scare of the 70s, someone proposed pumping extra CO2 into the air to combat it.

Now granting for a moment that all the predictions are true, notice how if environmentalists had been listened to then, we'd actually be much worse off right now than we are doing nothing?

I know which environmentalists I take seriously by those who entertain the idea that something they do today might actually make things worse - not better - for tomorrow. And whether they want to at least entertain the idea that we may want to take actions we can more easily reverse just in case we're wrong.

From what i have heard from friends who work in mainatance stateside is that american factories are behind the times a lot when it comes to technolgy and systems and are only kept afloat beacuse of goverment subsides. But i dont know how true that is.
America has a LOT of factories so it's probable that it's a non-zero number. I have one meatbag acquaintance who works for a chemical plant mainly running on a system code that my great-great-great grandfather would have run on. (It's apparently even older to Cobol.) But you know what? The plant is pretty much unhackable and has had an "uptime" now of multiple decades. (Given that Microsoft can release a patch shutting down your entire exchange...)

So is that factory "behind the times"? From one point of view. But it absolutely does what it needs to without fail.

Compare that to what it looks like trying to run things with a completely modern machine.

Makes the answer trickier doesn't it? (Though as far as I'm aware, my friend's company doesn't receive any government funds unless their products are bought by them. Going down the "subsides" definition rabbit hole is even more fun.)
 
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These morons literally can't conceive of "Oh i had an initial reaction, but then more facts came to light and I changed my position to better reflect those facts."

Nah that's something only a Thinker would do. You've got to be a Believer and keep on keeping on no matter- wait...
Most people who saw that tape had an entierly emotional reaction. But as more evidence came out about the case, Floyds behaviour and his drug use opinion started to sway.
But even then i remeber white boomers desperatly trying to keep their dying system alive. Desperatly trying to keep the america of the past alive.
"Some of you are trying to make it poltical, its not poltical its a state operative using extreme force against a citizen"
When it clearly was a black vs white issue. The prostests, blm. Nobody would have cared if Floyd was white. Not a single voice would have raised concern over this even more so if he had 3x the lethal dose of fentanyl of his system and was a felon. But beacuse he is of one of the protceted classes in america he could do no wrong and Chauvin was deemed as the most evil man of this decade.
America has a LOT of factories so it's probable that it's a non-zero number. I have one meatbag acquaintance who works for a chemical plant mainly running on a system code that my great-great-great grandfather would have run on. (It's apparently even older to Cobol.) But you know what? The plant is pretty much unhackable and has had an "uptime" now of multiple decades. (Given that Microsoft can release a patch shutting down your entire exchange...)

So is that factory "behind the times"? From one point of view. But it absolutely does what it needs to without fail.

Compare that to what it looks like trying to run things with a completely modern machine.

Makes the answer trickier doesn't it? (Though as far as I'm aware, my friend's company doesn't receive any government funds unless their products are bought by them. Going down the "subsides" definition rabbit hole is even more fun.)
Well what was specifically talked about was assembly and welding robots.
These friends of mine said that american factories are running shit straight out of 90´s with so much less efficacy that they cant understand how the factory can compete with the rest of the world. Not everything has gotten better thats true. But these robots has devloped so far that a robot that in the past couldnt beat a trained welder in massproduction is now a lot more efficant even in complex massfabrication.
 
Lefty environmentalists tend to pursue broad, sweeping changes to society as a whole to scale back on human industry, with the most extreme elements agitating for the destruction of modern civilization to save the planet.
As /ourguy/ Ted Kaczynski said:
Leftism is totalitarian. When leftists gain power, they forcibly invade every corner of life and seek to mold every thought. In the leftist religion, all else is sin. More importantly, they have a never ending drive for power, that is insatiable. When they meet one goal, they must move on to another cause, and so on.
History shows that leftists might oppose technology, only until they gain power. Once in control, they’d use technology for oppression. The Bolsheviks opposed censorship and secret police, until they gained power. Once in control, they imposed tighter censorship and more ruthless secret police. University leftists supported academic freedom, until they gained power. Once in control, they stifled others’ academic freedom.
Why leftists do the things they do make the most sense when you view leftism as a cynical strategy, even if there are individuals who sincerely believe what they are doing is right.
 
Climate loons claim that no matter what we do now, the planet is doomed. Yet they still want all these insane, progress-killing regulations, even though by their own admission it won’t make a difference. They just want to ruin livelihoods and lives because they get off on domination. Bob’s a sicko, we know that, but this is a darker level of pathology for him.
They keep pushing the 12-year conspiracy and they wonder why more people are becoming global warming skeptics.
There's also the fact that rather than being something to pass for more eco-friendly measures to be taken, the biggest thing they're trying to push, the Green New Deal, is basically a wishlist of stuff the Democrats want that have nothing to do with climate change, like trans rights, education reform, and healthcare. Gee, why didn't anyone want to pass this bill?

It's ironic how despite being a caricature meant to mock her, the Dianne Feinstein from this SNL sketch raises several good points against the Green New Deal.

 
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