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Except that Cessna isn't being held to the same standards. If that was anyone else, they'd be banned for a week while a mod screamed at them how they are sexist pigs.
 
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Hugbox Kommissar said:
And you can see how the left handles criticism in both ways here. When they have no power (rando poster) they try to muddy the water by talking semantics and getting off topic (what does SJW really mean? Is there really a definition?), and when they do have power (mod) they don't want a discussion, they just nuke you off the site.
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Even RetardEra's mod style is more honest, they just ban you with a line of unintelligible word salad that means nothing. RPGnet mods ban you and then, because their tiny penises get incredibly hard when they do this, they spend a page preaching at you, absolutely tendentious garbage anyone could refute, because they know you can't and anyone who could can also be banned, so won't.

They're like the semi-retarded kid on debate team who never won a single debate so when their opponent dies, they're ecstatic because they can finally win, for once in their miserable lives.
 
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Capsaicin Addict said:
And oh God, the unintentional humor -- they're concerned that one aggressive, abusive poster could stymie ten other posters? This is the Internet, you fucking clown shoed pack of retards. Thanks to double-blind anonymity and the impossibility of slapping someone through the Internet, I seriously doubt an abusive or obnoxious troll is going to make ten other users walk off.
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To be fair, this is true - one aggressive, obnoxious, abusive poster can drive off many, many decent posters.

But of course that abusive poster can only do that if they aren't getting moderated for their behaviour. If they're allowed to continue to abuse other people because they're a mod pet, or a mod, or allowed to continue because they're seen as being right. In hugboxes like RPG.net and ResetEra, the aggressive, obnoxious, abusive troll is always someone 'on the right side of history' who is allowed to berate, belittle and demean other posters, always under the guise of fighting the bad guys.

One of their more annoying ideological sticking points is that no-one would ever pretend to be a minority, that there's no benefit to willingly subject yourself to the daily horror that is, say, being a troon. All while creating a hugbox where trumpeting your troon identity and using it as a rhetorical cudgel to try and force everyone to do what you say is much more successful than it has any right to be. With RPG.net, you see it with how they talk about race and orcs and all that bullshit; there's realistically 99 white people for every black person on the forum, but there's undoubtedly race LARPers out there who know they can play the race card to give their opinion more weight. And because of the permissiveness towards minority posters being aggressive, obnoxious and abusive, assholes have extra reasons to lie, but non-assholes who know how to pick their battles and not make every issue a hill to die on just won't engage, firstly on that topic, and then on that forum.

So that one troll isn't going to drive other users from the forum unless the forum, implicitly or explicitly, endorses their behaviour. RPG.net has intentionally created an atmosphere where they are constantly hunting for that one alt-right Nazi they are certain is going to scare off their good posters, while ignoring that the posters constantly threatening to leave and demanding more and more thought policing aren't good posters, and in fact are usually the bullies and trolls they're theoretically against. Sucks if you want a successful, thriving forum, but is great if you want a paranoid, depressed echo chamber where fewer and fewer people scream more and more loudly at each other about how terrible everything is.

Fortunately for us, the latter is much funnier than the former.
 
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Capsaicin Addict said:
Yup. That was pretty much a forum poster suicide by mod. Although I would hope the guy used a burner account and still has his regular one, now that he knows where mods stand.

Remember kids, any objection to the socjus, idpol philosophy automagically makes you an alt-right nazi, no matter what your actual politics and views are!
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The account was a burner; it was registered less than a day before making that post, which was the only post it ever made. The paranoid part of me thinks it may be a false flag.
 
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The account was a burner; it was registered less than a day before making that post, which was the only post it ever made. The paranoid part of me thinks it may be a false flag.
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It's not a false flag. It was too cogent. A false flag would have been more overtly racist.

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but there's undoubtedly race LARPers out there who know they can play the race card to give their opinion more weight.
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That shit has been going on since the days of usenet. I vividly remember the shitstorm around World of Darkness: Gypsies, where as if by magic dozens of posters were screaming about how offended they were because of their Roma heritage. Mmhmm. Hundreds of gypsies hanging out on usenet, talkin' RPGs. Tell me another one. Now, in all fairness, Gypsies is a legitimately terrible book that actually uses a stat called "Blood Purity," but if more than one of those posters was genuinely Roma I'd be amazed.
 
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Next Task said:
But of course that abusive poster can only do that if they aren't getting moderated for their behaviour. If they're allowed to continue to abuse other people because they're a mod pet, or a mod, or allowed to continue because they're seen as being right.
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The most abusive, obnoxious posters on RPGnet are the mods themselves.
 
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What, exactly, keeps RPG.net afloat? Who is paying these insane, self-important blowhard mods? Does it still get traffic and decent ad revenue? Is there a subscription model? (Man, imagine paying to receive this kind of abuse.)

Tangency has been an asylum for almost 20 years and it's been long since it infected the rest of the site. RPG.net is such a dumpster fire I just don't understand how it's sustainable, yet it just keeps chugging along. There are other places to go to chat RPGs, aren't there? Shit, even reddit would be preferable at this point.
 
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Mola Ram said:
What, exactly, keeps RPG.net afloat? Who is paying these insane, self-important blowhard mods? Does it still get traffic and decent ad revenue? Is there a subscription model? (Man, imagine paying to receive this kind of abuse.)

Tangency has been an asylum for almost 20 years and it's been long since it infected the rest of the site. RPG.net is such a dumpster fire I just don't understand how it's sustainable, yet it just keeps chugging along. There are other places to go to chat RPGs, aren't there? Shit, even reddit would be preferable at this point.
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Some of it is ad revenue, some of it is people paying for a membership which, as far as I know, doesn't give them anything. A lot of the people who have left or been permabanned held lifetime memberships, which costs $150. I guess RPGnet follows the Lowtax school of economics.
 
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Mola Ram said:
What, exactly, keeps RPG.net afloat? Who is paying these insane, self-important blowhard mods? Does it still get traffic and decent ad revenue? Is there a subscription model? (Man, imagine paying to receive this kind of abuse.)

Tangency has been an asylum for almost 20 years and it's been long since it infected the rest of the site. RPG.net is such a dumpster fire I just don't understand how it's sustainable, yet it just keeps chugging along. There are other places to go to chat RPGs, aren't there? Shit, even reddit would be preferable at this point.
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Honestly, RPG.net has been coasting on inertia from the late 90's and 2000's when they were the biggest RPG forum out there. They've been in decline thanks to their own paranoid wokeness but even now EN World has eclipsed them IIRC and The RPG Site is growing as well.
 
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Wallace said:
Some of it is ad revenue, some of it is people paying for a membership which, as far as I know, doesn't give them anything. A lot of the people who have left or been permabanned held lifetime memberships, which costs $150. I guess RPGnet follows the Lowtax school of economics.
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I wonder how they've worded their membership contract, and if someone is banned they could get their money back?

Usually, the answer's 'no', but it IS RPGnet.
 
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Loose Goose said:
Those posters are wise not to take the bait. Mods have been known to go through complaint threads and ban the stronger dissenters. They even had a "Tell us what's wrong with moderation" thread a few years ago, where posters were encouraged to criticize their overlords, and a bunch of those people got disappeared soon afterwards, Stalin style. These threads are always meant for level-headed, restrained asskissing.
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They do this on most platforms, not just forums.
 
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