RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

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UoW talked about it a few months ago but part of the reason he went full shill was because of a mixture of Volume 6 coinciding with a relationship of his imploding and being sure Blake and Yang were gonna hook up. Said relationship ending on a sour note and the show then dancing around confirming Blake and Yang in Volumes 7 and 8 (alongside the issues with Clover and the White Fang) made him more apathetic towards the series.

It's probably not helped by the fact that the RWBY subreddit will blatantly let you harass him with no punishment due to the moderation team being biased shills.
 
Sup3r said:
The fact that he namedrops the two chucklefucks that were in charge a grand total of once (in reference to Monty sneaking a scene into volume 1 with Miles not knowing and Kerry isn't mentioned at all) indicates this. He admitted to fighting RT at every point, especially with the changes to production. He refused to back down from Sheena voicing a specific character (Winter, who Shane claims that Monty had originally based on sheena before the original design was thrown out, I'd hate to see the original design then) as he was told that if she wanted to be a va in the show, she could just audition for it.

My guess is that he was upset that he wasn't considered to replace Monty as showrunner. After all he admits that he wasn't there for RT as a company but purely to work with Monty. He saw RWBY as Monty's and his work, not acknowledging the two names that come up in the writer's credit or even the co-director's credit.

And he behaved like no one else at RT was mourning Monty.
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Not only that, but when they decided to switch over to Maya (aka the more competent animation software, even if the people using it aren't), he didn't want to make the switch like the stubborn manbaby he is.

I mean part of the reason why people don't like the first three seasons is the fact they were done in Poser. At least with Maya it doesn't look like those "Kids Channel" videos on YouTube, even if it's still far from good.
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
Not only that, but when they decided to switch over to Maya (aka the more competent animation software, even if the people using it aren't), he didn't want to make the switch like the stubborn manbaby he is.

I mean part of the reason why people don't like the first three seasons is the fact they were done in Poser. At least with Maya it doesn't look like those "Kids Channel" videos on YouTube, even if it's still far from good.
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The animation from the newer seasons are tolerable. They could be a lot better but it's certainly from ok.
 
I'm gonna say that the show did lose a lot of it's style once they switched to Maya but that has more to do with the lack of art direction rather than the program I think.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
I'm gonna say that the show did lose a lot of it's style once they switched to Maya but that has more to do with the lack of art direction rather than the program I think.
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That was when they changed the good design for the characters into a jumbled up mess of colors and random dogshit so yeah, I agree with you on that.
 
What the shit said:
That was when they changed the good design for the characters into a jumbled up mess of colors and random dogshit so yeah, I agree with you on that.
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I was talking more in terms of palette and shading but like I said, that's less to do with Maya and more to do with a lack of artistic vision.
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
Not only that, but when they decided to switch over to Maya (aka the more competent animation software, even if the people using it aren't), he didn't want to make the switch like the stubborn manbaby he is.

I mean part of the reason why people don't like the first three seasons is the fact they were done in Poser. At least with Maya it doesn't look like those "Kids Channel" videos on YouTube, even if it's still far from good.
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The issue with the early seasons is the poser isn't an industry standard, so outside of Monty and Shane, most of the animators didn't know how to use it alongside learning Monty's autistic method. It created a weird juxtaposition when you had these "cool" fight scenes followed by incredibly jank movements in the scene afterwards. The move to Maya was pretty much a necessity to streamline the process.
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
I was talking more in terms of palette and shading but like I said, that's less to do with Maya and more to do with a lack of artistic vision.
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Didn't help that most of the designs were shit and there was awful communication between the modellers and the designers.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
I was talking more in terms of palette and shading but like I said, that's less to do with Maya and more to do with a lack of artistic vision.
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Shit would have been so much easier if they just gave the animation to a studio who knew how to, you know, animate instead of keeping it in-house. Even if it added some expenses. Hell, they're doing it with Gen;LOCK season 2, why not just get Bardel to animate RWBY going forward? Why keep it in house in Texas if people both inside and outside the company are going to complain about the animation?
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
Not only that, but when they decided to switch over to Maya (aka the more competent animation software, even if the people using it aren't), he didn't want to make the switch like the stubborn manbaby he is.

I mean part of the reason why people don't like the first three seasons is the fact they were done in Poser. At least with Maya it doesn't look like those "Kids Channel" videos on YouTube, even if it's still far from good.
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As I said before, & I'll say again. If Monty was still alive, he'll be having a thread in the lolcow section.
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
Shit would have been so much easier if they just gave the animation to a studio who knew how to, you know, animate instead of keeping it in-house. Even if it added some expenses. Hell, they're doing it with Gen;LOCK season 2, why not just get Bardel to animate RWBY going forward? Why keep it in house in Texas if people both inside and outside the company are going to complain about the animation?
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Thing is though, the issues with rwby after volume 3 has never been the quality of the animation. They do have professional animators. The issues have been poor direction and writing, issues that originate from the chucklefucks that were in charge. That wouldn't change by changing who's animating it.

You could have the best animators in the universe animate it and rwby would still have the issues of its dogshit writing and characters. That is what is killing it.
 
Sup3r said:
Thing is though, the issues with rwby after volume 3 has never been the quality of the animation. They do have professional animators. The issues have been poor direction and writing, issues that originate from the chucklefucks that were in charge. That wouldn't change by changing who's animating it.

You could have the best animators in the universe animate it and rwby would still have the issues of its dogshit writing and characters. That is what is killing it.
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I mean the animation is part of it at any rate, but yes, I do agree that the writing is dogshit. All of Rooster Teeth's recent efforts have been dogshit in pretty much every front.
 
Sup3r said:
Thing is though, the issues with rwby after volume 3 has never been the quality of the animation.
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I disagree, the animation quality didn't get any better and in some ways became worse after season 3, the issue is that the writing became more noticeable at that point since the show moved away from slice of life with an overarching background plot and into a more serialized format.
 
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