RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

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Second episode of Vol. 8 dropped, and whoo boy:
- Ironwood's an idiot by locking up all the people he hates in the same room. Allowing Robyn and Jacques to have a bitchfit whi Watts proves that he's still one of the only characters left worth a damn.
- Hover bikes make their debut here.
- Weiss gets sucked in a tube Wonka-style by Nora, who is oddly happy about her actions.
- There's a talking Grim, and it kidnaps Oscar.

In other words, slow and plodding like the first episode, talking Grim probably being the only real highlight besides Nora's attempted murder.
 
Second episode of Vol. 8 dropped, and whoo boy:
- Ironwood's an idiot by locking up all the people he hates in the same room. Allowing Robyn and Jacques to have a bitchfit whi Watts proves that he's still one of the only characters left worth a damn.
- Hover bikes make their debut here.
- Weiss gets sucked in a tube Wonka-style by Nora, who is oddly happy about her actions.
- There's a talking Grim, and it kidnaps Oscar.

In other words, slow and plodding like the first episode, talking Grim probably being the only real highlight besides Nora's attempted murder.
I don't think RT intended for me to cheer on the Grimm
 
Jac thinks his lawyers can bail him out of helping an invading force attack the kingdom while Ironwood is in charge.

Qrow tells Robyn that the only thing they can do now is murder Ironwood ('The Man responsible for all this')

Watts is still the best character on the villain team.

Atlas soldiers open up Watts's cell to kick his ass, I think?

Ultimately, this scene feels really pointless. It just establishes that the main characters are all in the same prison room and are feeling angry.

Happy Huntress threatens a random reporter so she can yell at people to go to the Crater

I know we can't have an entire city modeled out, but christ, Mantle feels fucking tiny when we have everyone in different scenes and locations going down the same damn street. The street doesn't even get different decorations, it's just empty.

Ruby tells Penny that Ironwood doesn't actually believe in what he's saying, he just wants to hurt people.

Nora presumably snaps Weiss's spine by sucking her up a dust delivery tube when she was laying across the opening.

Yang tells some woman off for racism because she doesn't want to go to the slums. Are Faunus the only ones in the slums? And Yang's speech is clear cringe "The Faunus have been helping everybody they can, no matter if those people deserve it or not.". The show's history paints a different picture, Yang.

Yang and Jaune push Ren to cloak an entire crowd of people all the way back to the slums without even asking if he can do it. Ren is understandably a bit grouchy.

Yang lies again. "Are you sure the slums are safe?" "100%" Last episode it was established, to Yang in particular, that the slums weren't safe, they just need everyone in one spot to help evacuate.

So, the slums we saw in the first episode IS the crater, and people are very easily being evacuated there while Salem sits on her ass.

Oscar and Ozpin suddenly bring up "Oh no, I don't wanna merge with your soul" even though Oscar came to grips with this off screen in volume 6 and no one has even broached this topic until this point. CRWBY have yet to learn to answer criticism without over correcting in the worst ways.

Jaune and Yang act exhausted for some reason. Like, all the show has implied they've done is ride here with civilians and one shot some basic ass Grimm, what the fuck has tuckered them out?

The show continues to act like the characters having a slight disagreement and acting a little grumpy is the big, character-driven conflict people have been asking for.

The Hunter Grimm is truly the saving grace of this episode. He's badass, competent, smart, easily kicks some ass and has the Planet-of-the-apes-style first words I've been calling from the start.

"What happened?" "You wouldn't believe us if we told you." "We're facing an immortal albino sorceress high on Satan Juices with an invading force of unnatural abominations; what's unbelievable about a talking Grimm?" "No, not that." "Then what is it?" "A threatening Grimm." "Okay, now you're just fucking with me."
 
I don't think RT intended for me to cheer on the Grimm
I feel as though this progression with sentient, metamorphosing Grimm should have been an event earlier in the show, like in Season 2 when Ruby and Professor Ooblec spot that heard of older Mammoth Grimm. Nevertheless, I did feel a spark of intrigue when they revealed it. The writing is still a bit lackluster here, though. They had a character on-screen who visibly has what look like bear hands, and they don't even make a joke about him going to break up a fight with his "bear hands". C'mon man, it's the easiest set-up in the world.
 
I feel as though this progression with sentient, metamorphosing Grimm should have been an event earlier in the show, like in Season 2 when Ruby and Professor Ooblec spot that heard of older Mammoth Grimm. Nevertheless, I did feel a spark of intrigue when they revealed it. The writing is still a bit lackluster here, though. They had a character on-screen who visibly has what look like bear hands, and they don't even make a joke about him going to break up a fight with his "bear hands". C'mon man, it's the easiest set-up in the world.
That guy is a mole.

But yeah, that Grimm is one of the only things that sparked some feeling to the show for me since Vol. 5 but then again the villains are usually the best part of this show.
 
The only thing I really enjoyed about this episode was the talking/shapeshifting Grimm. I used to be a hardcore RT?RWBY fan but I've definitely fallen off that wagon over the past few years.
 
Wait... a mole you say?
Hmmm...
It's not the large, strong paws of a bear, they more resemble the thinner, quick hands of a mole that's used for burrowing in the dirt. If I had screenshots of them I could compare it to real-life moles.
 
I'd say the majority
I’d say a lot of people here and in Discord servers I frequent are either former fans or people who knew RWBY was always shit but could appreciate Monty’s passion and enthusiasm for the project and could let those things forgive the glaring problems that were there from day one. Since then however, lots of things have happened to destroy that goodwill.
 
Yang is an absolute retard. She is meant to reassure and calm down people when evacuating them even without the threat of monsters being attracted to their negative emotions and feelings. Trying to get a one over a nasty old woman by telling her, and everyone in the crowd that can hear her, that their military and government has abandoned them to die, is the exact opposite. It doesn't help to act like a dick towards the crowd making them trust you less and to not make any attempt to suppress the negative emotions that attract Grimm whilst you make no effort to show absolute contempt for a scared and confused old woman who is being forced out of her home into the snow and into a favela while monsters encircle her city and people are being torn to pieces in the streets around her.

Also, Yang should take a moment before waging her robot finger at the woman about big old mean Ironwood to understand that 1) she and her girlfriend are responsible for one of the biggest factors, leaking the info to Robin, that contributed to Ironwood going full balls to the wall and she actively participated in the withholding of information from him. 2) that part of the reason she is able to fight in the first place is that Ironwood jumped through a ton of hoops to get her said robot arm during a time of international chaos and a communication blackout for free.

Yang was my second favorite character of team RWBY (first being Wiess ofc) because I liked the fact that she didn't magically forgive and was understandably upset at Blake for running off a few minutes after Yang got her arm sliced off protecting her.


What a cunt.
 
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A problem with big slapstick humor in a show that wants to be taken seriously, especially when the current story is about not being cold and be weary of the pain you could be inflicting upon other's with such coldness, is that you run the risk of making your characters look like even bigger assholes. Nora sucking Weiss is a joke, but in a story like this? Yeah, now we're asking why she's giggling like a psychopath when she might have just accidentally grievously wounded her friend.

A more fitting joke would have been to have her accidentally hit the button and then over react or she turns away and doesn't realize that Weiss got sucked up and assumes Weiss just went up ahead.
 
I’d say a lot of people here and in Discord servers I frequent are either former fans or people who knew RWBY was always shit but could appreciate Monty’s passion and enthusiasm for the project and could let those things forgive the glaring problems that were there from day one. Since then however, lots of things have happened to destroy that goodwill.
Yeah, when your show ends up being so popular, it becomes a franchise, has a Japanese dub, and the company can get in the same shit that AAA Gaming Companies like EA and Ubisoft can get in, you kinda have no excuse for RWBY to be the "shoestring budget of seven dollars" show.

To its credit, it has been steadily improving overall, but plot beats and character developments muddy it by quite a bit.
 
Jac thinks his lawyers can bail him out of helping an invading force attack the kingdom while Ironwood is in charge.

Qrow tells Robyn that the only thing they can do now is murder Ironwood ('The Man responsible for all this')

Watts is still the best character on the villain team.

Atlas soldiers open up Watts's cell to kick his ass, I think?

Ultimately, this scene feels really pointless. It just establishes that the main characters are all in the same prison room and are feeling angry.

Happy Huntress threatens a random reporter so she can yell at people to go to the Crater

I know we can't have an entire city modeled out, but christ, Mantle feels fucking tiny when we have everyone in different scenes and locations going down the same damn street. The street doesn't even get different decorations, it's just empty.

Ruby tells Penny that Ironwood doesn't actually believe in what he's saying, he just wants to hurt people.

Nora presumably snaps Weiss's spine by sucking her up a dust delivery tube when she was laying across the opening.

Yang tells some woman off for racism because she doesn't want to go to the slums. Are Faunus the only ones in the slums? And Yang's speech is clear cringe "The Faunus have been helping everybody they can, no matter if those people deserve it or not.". The show's history paints a different picture, Yang.

Yang and Jaune push Ren to cloak an entire crowd of people all the way back to the slums without even asking if he can do it. Ren is understandably a bit grouchy.

Yang lies again. "Are you sure the slums are safe?" "100%" Last episode it was established, to Yang in particular, that the slums weren't safe, they just need everyone in one spot to help evacuate.

So, the slums we saw in the first episode IS the crater, and people are very easily being evacuated there while Salem sits on her ass.

Oscar and Ozpin suddenly bring up "Oh no, I don't wanna merge with your soul" even though Oscar came to grips with this off screen in volume 6 and no one has even broached this topic until this point. CRWBY have yet to learn to answer criticism without over correcting in the worst ways.

Jaune and Yang act exhausted for some reason. Like, all the show has implied they've done is ride here with civilians and one shot some basic ass Grimm, what the fuck has tuckered them out?

The show continues to act like the characters having a slight disagreement and acting a little grumpy is the big, character-driven conflict people have been asking for.

The Hunter Grimm is truly the saving grace of this episode. He's badass, competent, smart, easily kicks some ass and has the Planet-of-the-apes-style first words I've been calling from the start.

"What happened?" "You wouldn't believe us if we told you." "We're facing an immortal albino sorceress high on Satan Juices with an invading force of unnatural abominations; what's unbelievable about a talking Grimm?" "No, not that." "Then what is it?" "A threatening Grimm." "Okay, now you're just fucking with me."
Are they seriously gaslighting that Ironwood is completely to blame for all of this?
 
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