Dramacow Ryulong / Michael Cohen - Fanatic Wikisperg, Anti-Gamergater and All Around Asshole

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Cynical said:
Micheal Cohen/Ryulong being the most petty, spiteful bitch on the planet:

https://archive.is/SQ4qg

And remember, he's the one who cries like a little girl over his real name being on the Internet.
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Didn't Ryulong do the same fucking thing that he's accusing this guy of doing (going on the Internet under both a handle and his real name at the same time)?
 
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So, why can't we discuss Zoe Quinn's real name because it's cited in official court documents and the lawyer in question has a perfectly legal excuse to do so since it's on public record and thus not doxxing?

Ryulong - Because I have to protect yon faire maiden no matter what even though it's fucking pointless and we need to do it to spite the fucking gators:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Gamergate#Volokh_Conspiracy
 
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Cynical said:
So, why can't we discuss Zoe Quinn's real name because it's cited in official court documents and the lawyer in question has a perfectly legal excuse to do so since it's on public record and thus not doxxing?

Ryulong - Because I have to protect yon faire maiden no matter what even though it's fucking pointless and we need to do it to spite the fucking gators:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Gamergate#Volokh_Conspiracy
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How does this bunch of hysterical, screaming assholes call itself "rational" wiki with a straight face?
 
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Cynical said:
So, why can't we discuss Zoe Quinn's real name because it's cited in official court documents and the lawyer in question has a perfectly legal excuse to do so since it's on public record and thus not doxxing?

Ryulong - Because I have to protect yon faire maiden no matter what even though it's fucking pointless and we need to do it to spite the fucking gators:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Gamergate#Volokh_Conspiracy
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Wow. Because Eugene Volokh isn't a legitimate source or something. What the actual fuck. Wikipedia's contortions of policy on this matter are equally ridiculous.
 
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AnOminous said:
I'm embarrassed to see David Gerard in that thread acting like a massive exceptional individual. I thought he was smarter than that.
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The Wikimedia chapter people (Gerard at least formerly heading up WMUK) are fucking scary generally. Some of the higher ups are more or less straight out of Tumblr. The whole BLP thing, born out of concerns over liability for defamation, has turned into a hyperprogressive human dignity-promoting inquisition.
 
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AnOminous said:
I'm embarrassed to see David Gerard in that thread acting like a massive exceptional individual. I thought he was smarter than that.
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DG is a big ball of crazy. I found this during the look into Shlomo's cult of LessWrong. All the background you need to know is that DG is attacking someone named SSC. There is DG's attack, SSC's defense, and DG's response to that.

http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/la5/neoreactionaries_why_are_you_neoreactionary/bmho

DG said:
> The fact that this is "catnip" for LW-ers is a bad thing. We ought to be giving neoreaction about as much credence as we give Creationism: it's founded on bad ethics, false facts, and bad reasoning, and should be dismissed, not discussed to death.

I note (and others have noted) that SSC, although hosting the definitive NRx takedown, still puts NRx ideas in the sphere of things to be discussed calmly with steelmanning; whereas it reacts with actual disgust and lack of philosophical charity to feminism, social justice, Tumblr, etc. And that Yvain was literally surprised to find himself becoming more right-wing after hanging around neoreactionaries, i.e. that he was picking up his ideas from his friends.
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SSC said:
I've been advised to come here and defend myself.

If you haven't been watching closely, David Gerard has been spreading these same smears about me on RationalWiki, on Twitter, and now here. His tweets accuse me of treating the Left in general and the social justice movement in particular with "frothing" and as "ordure". And now he comes here and adds Tumblr to the list of victims, and "actual disgust" to the list of adjectives.

I resent this because it is a complete fabrication.

I resent it because, far from a frothing hatred of Tumblr, I myself have a Tumblr account which I use almost every day and which I've made three hundred posts on. Sure, I've gently mocked Tumblr (as has every Tumblr user) but I've also very publicly praised it for hosting some very interesting and enlightening conversations.

I resent it because I've posted a bunch of long defenses and steelmannings of social justice ideas like Social Justice For The Highly Demanding Of Rigor and The Wonderful Thing About Triggers, some of which have gone mildly viral in the social justice blogosphere, and some of which have led to people emailing me or commenting saying they've changed their minds and become less hostile to social justice as a result.

I resent it because, far from failing to intellectually engage with the Left, in the past couple of months I've read, reviewed, and enjoyed left-leaning books on Marx, the Soviet economy, and market socialism

I resent it because the time I most remember someone trying to engage me about social justice, Apophemi, I wrote a seven thousand word response which I consider excruciatingly polite, which started with a careful justification for why writing it would be more productive and respectful than not writing it, and which ended with a heartfelt apology for the couple of things I had gotten wrong on my last post on the subject.

(Disgust! Frothing! Ordure!)

I resent it because I happily hosted Ozy's social justice blogging for several months, giving them an audience for posts like their takedown of Heartiste, which was also very well-received and got social justice ideas to people who otherwise wouldn't have seen them.

I resent it because about a fifth of my blogroll is social justice or social justice-aligned blogs, each of which get a couple dozen hits from me a day.

I resent it because even in my most impassioned posts about social justice, I try to make it very clear that there are parts of the movement which make excellent points, and figures in the movement I highly respect. Even in what I think everyone here will agree is my meanest post on the subject, Radicalizing the Romanceless, I stop to say the following about the social justice blogger I am arguing against:

> [He] is a neat guy. He draws amazing comics and he runs one of the most popular, most intellectual, and longest-standing feminist blogs on the Internet. I have debated him several times, and although he can be enragingly persistent he has always been reasonable...He cares deeply about a lot of things, works hard for those things, and has supported my friends when they have most needed support.

(DISGUST! FROTHING! ORDURE!)

I resent it because it trivializes all of my sick burns against neoreactionaries, like the time I accused them of worshipping Kim Jong-un as a god, and the time I said they were obsessed with "precious, precious, white people", and the time I mocked Jim for thinking Eugene V. Debs was a Supreme Court case.

I resent this because anyone who looks at my posts tagged with social justice can see that almost as many are in favor as against.

And I resent this because I'm being taken to task about charity by somebody whose own concept of a balanced and reasonable debate is retweeting stuff like this -- and again and again calling the people he disagrees with "shitlords"

(which puts his faux-horror that I treat people I disagree with 'like ordure' in a pretty interesting new light)

No matter how many pro-social-justice posts I write, how fair and nice I am, or what I do, David Gerard is going to keep spreading these smears about me until I refuse to ever engage with anyone who disagrees with him about anything at all. As long as I'm saying anything other than "every view held by David Gerard is perfect and flawless and everyone who disagrees with David Gerard is a shitlord who deserve to die", he is going to keep concern-trolling you guys that I am "biased" or "unfair".

Please give his continued campaigning along these lines the total lack of attention it richly deserves.
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DG said:
This is a frankly boggling rant I have no intention of engaging.
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DG would almost be a lolcow himself, except he's too smart to do the really obvious lolcow things.
 
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blackie toy said:
The Wikimedia chapter people (Gerard at least formerly heading up WMUK) are fucking scary generally.
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Yes. I know him personally. I'm just disappointed.

Sarcastic Username said:
DG would almost be a lolcow himself, except he's too smart to do the really obvious lolcow things.
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Right. And his response to his ED article was to bemoan the fact that it didn't make fun of him enough.
 
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