Dramacow Ryulong / Michael Cohen - Fanatic Wikisperg, Anti-Gamergater and All Around Asshole

[AnOminous]

Once a wiki sperg, always a wiki sperg.

It's a long fall from The One True Wiki to getting thrown off FedoraWiki.

He'll end up giving handies to autists for access to fan wikis on wikia.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The hill he apparently is going to die on is a fucking MLP article.

Holy fucking shit how pathetic.

Also, I particularly love this bit:

. It was a list I was trying to make into a Wikipedia page at some point, which is why it had sources, but fuck if I'm ever going back there

Yes. Because getting your sysop privileges removed from Wikipedia when you threw a temper tantrum at getting locked out of the GG article never happened, apparently.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I'm amazed at the drama by adult men over a fucking cartoon aimed at little girls.

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

The hill he apparently is going to die on is a fucking MLP article.

Holy fucking shit how pathetic.

Any less pathetic than Power Rangers or Gamergate?

 

[Hellfire]

Ryulong continues to spew his angst against bronies on that 'Jihad' Talk page section.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic#.22Jihad.22

Are Avengers ponies non-conforming or whatever? And while the whole "why do they like a girls cartoon" was definitely something that was a thing 4 years ago? 3 years? 5? whichever, now that's not why people dislike them and that's in that editorial that's linked somewhere on the page. And it's written on SJWiki. No one thinks it's a show for little girls anymore because the big boys took it over and made it difficult for the little girls to enjoy it safely without finding pinkie pie vore on google safe search.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Criticisms of Bronys is fine, deciding that a group of non-conformists have nothing to fear from society and that we need to write the article in a way that makes sure we know the brony movement as a whole are fucking monsters is not that. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 13:07, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Tell that to the young women who watch the show and call out the worst parts of the fandom and have to abandon their entire web presence because Bronies won't kick the bad applejacks out of the herd.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:11, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

'Cause it is totally OK to abuse copyright as a stick to clobber MLP fans you don't like, amirite? Reminds me of Scientology and them using copyright to silence critics.--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 13:17, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

So how should they do this, hm? Hire assassination squads to kill all the "bad" bronies? Carpetsmoker (talk) 13:12, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Actively denounce their behavior instead of asserting #NotAllBronies. Deny known problem people access to conventions or various spaces. I'm sure assholes get blacklisted from Star Trek conventions or furry conventions if they're not wanted there.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:17, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Like follow people around, online and not, telling everyone how they aren't a real brony? What level of "problem" should be excluded to meet your desired level of "doing something" about the problem? Should organizations planning on having conventions have surveillance teams to find and root out people who are not welcome? -EmeraldCityWanderer (talk) 13:53, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm sure they all have central forums where they can go "yo, thunderh00f is an asshole, don't let him into your convention next year".—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:56, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

A RW user has dubbed the shit-fest Ryulong is causing over My Little Pony to be "everything that is wrong" with RationalWiki and tried to inject some sanity into the mountains of Ryulong's salt covering the area.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:M...verything_that_is_wrong_with_RW_at_the_moment

For years it just sat there. Harmless.

And then, all of a sudden, it's the centre of yet another RW war. The opposing factions seem to see compromise as a sign of weakness and, for the last few days, [Recent Changes] has been nothing but MLP

Now, let's look at our mission in the larger sense. The dream, way back when, was that RW would be the go-to place for fun but informative and well researched articles on pseudoscience, woo, religion, and all sorts of fundamentalist ideas. Our main catchment were those who googled "Poes Law", for example, found our article and then stayed to enjoy the rest. If you read "How I found RW" you'll see that over and over again. It's how I got here.

But now, should a newcomer stumble upon this site what will they see? Nothing but petty minded squabbling, pages and pages of it. We don't discuss, we don't debate, we don't even argue we bicker like children.

Seriously, take a step back and look at what we've become. Doxys Midnight Runner (talk) 12:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

You say "opposing factions", but really, it's just one user being an asshole vs. the rest of the site Carpetsmoker (talk) 12:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

@Arisboch I don't remember it as this bad since forever. Even the Maratrean thing - along with the dick pics - wasn't as ugly as this. Silver Sloth (talk) 12:35, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

I can't agree more with Doxys Midnight Runner. What is happening with this article is plainly ABSURD. If I first arrived at RW and found all this I would just burst out laughing and move on elsewhere. Either stop it or lock the article.--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 13:12, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

 

[Optimus Prime]

Gotta love how the immediate answer to stopping the problem is not just permanently removing double dragon's ability to edit that page.

 

[A Random]

Any less pathetic than Power Rangers or Gamergate?

At least Power Rangers has hot live-action chicks and dudes a grown-up person can find hot. Horse fans are fucked in other ways.

 

[AnOminous]

Gotta love how the immediate answer to stopping the problem is not just permanently removing double dragon's ability to edit that page.

No shit. Didn't the Wikipedia debacle prove that Ryulong is about as likely to behave rationally as Barneyfag?

He's just going to act like a fucking nut until banned.

That's what he does.

That's his stock in trade.

 

[Optimus Prime]

No shit. Didn't the Wikipedia debacle prove that Ryulong is about as likely to behave rationally as Barneyfag?

He's just going to act like a fucking nut until banned.

That's what he does.

That's his stock in trade.

Not even that. On RW alone in the shitstorm leading up to his MLP article faggotry he's been repeatedly depowered/repowered as a mod/admin/whatever so the fact even a momentary revoking of power hasn't happened here seems odd.

 

[AnOminous]

Not even that. On RW alone in the shitstorm leading up to his MLP article faggotry he's been repeatedly depowered/repowered as a mod/admin/whatever so the fact even a momentary revoking of power hasn't happened here seems odd.

He fits in with SJW politics. This is why just acting like an asshole isn't nearly enough to get him kicked. He has to reach nearly subhuman levels of assholery before they will even consider it.

 

[chimpburgers]

He fits in with SJW politics. This is why just acting like an asshole isn't nearly enough to get him kicked. He has to reach nearly subhuman levels of assholery before they will even consider it.

Even if he was near those levels, they'd still be reluctant to do jack shit about it. They would try to stall as long as they can before they're forced to talk about it publicly and address the issue just so their ideological narrative isn't shattered.

 

[Executive Impact]

Imagine how different this guy's life would be if he put the same effort into finding a job or getting a social life that he puts into articles about children's television.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Imagine how different this guy's life would be if he put the same effort into finding a job or getting a social life that he puts into articles about children's television.

He can't function in the real world. In real life he doesn't have admin powers to block anything he hates, anyone who dares to disagree can't just be bann'd.

Why do you think he spends all day, every day on his pet projects?

Look at the timeline of his edits, he's actually just sitting on his computer for 12-14 hours a day hitting refresh to make sure none of his pages are changed. Hell during the GG war that lead to him being ban'd for life he was on for over 24 hours straight!

He's gotta have some mental illness, some serious condition to make this kind of behaviour make sense.

 

[DrJonesHat]

This guy and Moleman 9000 should get in touch. They both camped their respective wikis to ensure their ideological purity wasn't tainted by someone daring to disagree with them.

 

[StallChaser]

Ryulong continues to spew his angst against bronies on that 'Jihad' Talk page section.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:My_Little_Pony:_Friendship_Is_Magic#.22Jihad.22





A RW user has dubbed the shit-fest Ryulong is causing over My Little Pony to be "everything that is wrong" with RationalWiki and tried to inject some sanity into the mountains of Ryulong's salt covering the area.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:M...verything_that_is_wrong_with_RW_at_the_moment

He can be the hero bronies need. The hero that starts bronies+.

 

[Hellfire]

Surprisingly, Cohen stopped trying to edit the MLP page for a few days. Some other RW users believed the issue had ended with the bronies securing a victory over the salt-encrusted Dragondragon. Ryulong had gone back to editing Gamergate and Puzzles and Dragons, but considering he had mentioned having anti-brony material stored on his blog it was a good bet he wouldn't stay away from this matter for long.

Cohen is spewing salt after he was blocked and desyop'd tonight after he decided to get in a revert/archive war with Paravant on his own Talk page. (Castaigne is mentioned, he was a RationalWiki user who burned out and quit after dealing with RW user Mona and other irritants and got yelled at after trying to archive them off his talk page.)

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ryulong&oldid=1557148

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ryulong&oldid=1557205

Ryulong (Talk | contribs)
(I DO NOT WANT TO TALK TO YOU IF YOU KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BRONY SHIT PARAVANT)

We just went through this the other day

you do not get to decide whom may and may not talk on a talk page, and attempts to do so got him punished. Stop. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 01:58, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I was copying and pasting your last message to my archives. I'm tired of you Paravant. Unblock me and reinstate my sysop privileges now.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 02:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

You do not decide whom may and may not post on your talkpage. We just had a fight over this with Cast and are not about to give you differing treatment when we were harsh on him for it. You can deal with not being able to edit for an hour while you think about what you've done wrong, and then you can get your bit back. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 02:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't want to see your stupid persecution garbage because of shit I wrote on the brony page that's not on there anymore. This is bullshit. I was removing the crap you were posting and putting them on my archive page when you did this shit.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 02:03, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

If that's what your response to my posts is, i'm only going to respond with "Troll Harder". You do not decide whom posts on your talk page and who can not. We just got in a fight with somebody else over this, you do not get special different treatment. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 02:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't want you to leave me any fucking messages on my talk page. That is not something difficult to grasp.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 02:10, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

You do not decide whom posts on your talk page and whom cannot. We just got in a fight with somebody else over this, you do not get special different treatment. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 02:11, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I personally do not want to hear from you if you're going to keep dropping references to shit I said is problematic amongst Bronies. I did initially just remove what you said but because you were so persistant I added them to my archives like everyone wants. Now unblock me and reinstate sysop. This has nothing to do with the rules. It's because you have a grudge against me.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 02:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

The fact the comment that made you freak out and declare "no never talk to me!" had nothing to do with Bronys is the best part of this, honestly. Now, "You do not decide whom posts on your talk page and whom cannot. We just got in a fight with somebody else over this, you do not get special different treatment"--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 02:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

The comment you left is still related to the dispute on the Brony page. I don't want to talk to you if that's what you're going to be doing. That is all. Now give me back my sysop rights.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 02:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Ryu: Trust me on this one issue if on nothing else: Paravant has a rather short temper with people who consider talk pages personal property. Including user talk pages... Avengerofthe BoN (talk) 02:08, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

You don't get to decide whom may post on your page, regardless of whether you like them or not. We just punished another user for doing that. You also don't get to edit peoples comments. Stop. Mod Hat. Deal with being punished, you clearly don't get it enough. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 02:30, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

 

[kcbbq]

He entirely does not understand how not to behave like an asshole. How people with nothing to show for in life end up with such huge egos is beyond me.

 

[AnOminous]

Cohen is spewing salt after he was blocked and desyop'd tonight after he decided to get in a revert/archive war with Paravant on his own Talk page. (Castaigne is mentioned, he was a RationalWiki user who burned out and quit after dealing with RW user Mona and other irritants and got yelled at after trying to archive them off his talk page.)

I'm triggered by the flagrant and repeated misuse of "whom" by this Paravant autist.

 

[Optimus Prime]

He's gotta have some mental illness, some serious condition to make this kind of behaviour make sense.

You know how when House M.D. was running on TV an all those ads had his face and the line "It's not cancer" under it?

Imagine that, except now the line reads "It's always Autism."

Ryulong had gone back to editing Gamergate and Puzzles and Dragons

Jesus H Christ, he's moving over to PAD now? It's basically Pokemon except even grindier and with a pay mechanism in place as you'd expect from a fremium game.

Fortunately, the true resource for that he doesn't have a fucking chance of getting into because surprise - it's not a wiki based website!

 

[Hellfire]

Cohen's block expired and after editing his List of monsters for Puzzles and Dragons, he wiped his talk page and immediately began begging active sysops to restore his 'mop'.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AgingHippie&oldid=1557378#An_odd_request
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:carpetsmoker&oldid=1557398

Could you restore my various bits? Paravant seems to have gone to bed.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:33, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Why do you think your bits are a fairly consistent issue here? Why do you think most users go years without having their bits brought into question, while yours are a semi-regular topic of intense and fracturing debate? Maybe, as my old girlfriend once said upon leaving me for the last time many years ago, "it's not me, it's you." Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 05:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Because this time around I've angered a moderator of this website who isn't taking kindly to the fact that the original cordial nature of our interactions soured beyond repair and my intent to put it forward that I would like some time without having to interact with him directly was met with overzealous and strict applications of this community's rules.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:47, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

"This time." That's kinda my point right there, kid. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 05:50, 30 October 2015 (UTC

Mop
Paravant took it away because he didn't like how I expressed my distaste in having to interact with him so recently after the Brony debacle and did so in order to force me to sit out a 3 hour block after which from what I can tell it was fully intended that he was going to restore it. Now you can restore it back like 142 did instead of being a petty dick about it.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:50, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

A wiser man would tone it down. Carpetsmoker (talk) 05:54, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I believe I've solved the issue. Would you please restore the tools?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC

His sysop was eventually restored on the sole condition that Cohen doesn't engage in "overzealous archiving." His sysop was removed shortly after when Cohen decided to continue this tantrum by getting rid of his archives.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ryulong&diff=prev&oldid=1557408

oh good lord
stop it.--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 06:00, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

No archives no further problems arising from archiving.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 06:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Cohen's furfag friend Kitsunelaine appeared from the nether to whine that they were all being mean to Cohen and took away his 'mop' for "no reason."

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:142․124․55․236&oldid=1557429#A_request

Taking away someone's sysop for no reason is not a way to have an argument. I'm sure you all have the mental capacity to handle this like adults. Kitsunelaine (talk) 05:54, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

It's not "for no reason". Both on this page and AgingHippie's page (and after the block, my page) Ryu shows he has learned exactly nothing and doesn't even understand why he was blocked... Carpetsmoker (talk) 05:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

You've been relentlessly targeting him for the fucking smallest things since this whole debacle started. You are not in a position of reliable authority, so shut the fuck up. Kitsunelaine (talk) 06:00, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Mops can be temporarily removed and given back at varying rates here at RW. What Ryu seems to be doing now is making everyone very very reluctant to give him back his mop after what was only supposed to be a temporary demoppal. 142.124.55.236 (talk) 06:00, 30 October 42015 AQD (UTC)

He's been the target of an extended campaign against him because he said things bronies disagree with. They accused him of being on a jihad for adding mild criticsm, for fucks sake. Can you blame him for being a little jumpy? Cut the guy some slack, dude. You're all fucking dogpiling him and not giving him the chance to fucking breathe. Kitsunelaine (talk) 06:03, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Cutting him slack implies he has given us a reason to think he deserves it. "Giving him a chance to breath" implies he intends to do anything with it besides throw himself further into pissing everybody off some more. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 06:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

You guys are pissed off at everything he does, no matter what it is. And I'm sick of watching it from the sidelines and you guys falling all over yourselves to dogpile him, even over fucking grammatical corrections. Kitsunelaine (talk) 06:09, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Do think that there may be a reason for us disliking him besides "we wanna hate" --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 06:10, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Do you not think you're going so far over the top with this that it's not reflecting well on either of you? The worst fucking thing the dude said was "KINKSHAME HROSEFUCKERS", and a person with half a brain could tell that was said in fucking jest. Kitsunelaine (talk) 06:11, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

I just did when I gave him his mop back, an explicit warning of what not to do included. What followed was nothing but excessive defensiveness and whitewashing.Does that sound familiar? 142.124.55.236 (talk) 06:12, 30 October 42015 AQD (UTC

Ryulong vs. bronies: the gift that keeps producing milk.

Cohen weighs in on the Tumblr/Steven Universe suicide mess, makes sure to throw more salt about 4chan: https://archive.is/aJmqs

Bigots are using this as an excuse to say “lol Tumblr SJWs” because we have one person who managed to manipulate dozens of people to harass a young woman to depression and suicide just so their crush would be single again. I mean fucking plebcomics started a “Je suis Charlie” thing to draw SU characters skinny in “solidarity” with Zamii.

Don’t stand for this bullshit. Don’t give into the mindset that one person’s fanart is a problem. Don’t allow someone’s stalker and harasser to win. And don’t let the asshole 4chan bigots win either.