Dramacow Ryulong / Michael Cohen - Fanatic Wikisperg, Anti-Gamergater and All Around Asshole

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So, I'm a long-term Wikipedia editor with quite a few run-ins with Ryulong. I'd have to say over the years I've kept a pretty neutral opinion of the guy. The GG shit, I don't care about. He is (well, was) a pain in the ass on enwiki before he got the boot. That said, Ryulong lowered the boom on a lot of aggravating people who probably deserved to be driven off the project. One of my favorites was this low-end photographer who kept uploading photos of himself at beaches in some hare-brained "art project" that would involve plastering himself all over the web. Ryulong made it a personal mission to get rid of every single one of the guy's crap photos.

Good admin? Probably not by today's standards. He's definitely an old guard guy who didn't make the switchover. There are a lot of them, but Ryulong made the mistake of not only getting embroiled in GG bullshit, but in fighting the fight on Wikipedia.
 
Ryulong gets called out for being an ignorant spewer of ad hominem and bias:

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...esian&curid=157234&diff=1487397&oldid=1485817

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...esian&curid=157234&diff=1487399&oldid=1487397

And Ryulong answers like you'd expect:

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...esian&curid=157234&diff=1487406&oldid=1487402

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...esian&curid=157234&diff=1487408&oldid=1487407

Small bonus with David Gerard drinking SJW koolaid with his buddy Ryulong

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...rgate&curid=169712&diff=1487400&oldid=1487394

I read the comment hosteurope posted, and they are obligated to take down content that is illegal under German law, and the content in question that was noted by Voat included subverses that portrayed Nazism and related content in a positive light, which is illegal under German law, so it would be correct to say it was politically incorrect speech for that host to host and which they duly removed.

Basically, Gerard's full of it and doing Ryulong style cherrypicking to make it seem like a victory for the anti-GG team.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...rgate&curid=169712&diff=1487412&oldid=1487404

Ryulong covering his ass in record time.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...esian&curid=157234&diff=1487413&oldid=1487411

"Arisboch, you're defying the narrative and coming very close to being cast out as a heretic against the hive mind." -Ryulong

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...esian&curid=157234&diff=1487417&oldid=1487414

PAY NO ATTENTION TO MY WHINING LIKE A BITCH BEHIND THE CURTAIN! - Ryulong
 
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Good admin? Probably not by today's standards. He's definitely an old guard guy who didn't make the switchover. There are a lot of them, but Ryulong made the mistake of not only getting embroiled in GG bullshit, but in fighting the fight on Wikipedia.

Could you elaborate on 'old guard' and 'switchover'? Wikipedos all used to be as spastic as Ryulong?
 
Could you elaborate on 'old guard' and 'switchover'? Wikipedos all used to be as spastic as Ryulong?
That's a tough question. I think of Ryulong as someone who has continuously been on Wikipedia since the fairly early days, and has gone through and adapted to a few different periods on Wikipedia. So... this post is turning into an essay on Wikipedia history, but since it's focused on explaining the concatenation of circumstances that led to Ryulong being crazy, I'm gonna go ahead with it.

I'd carve Wikipedia up into three major time periods. The early days, the politicization of Wikipedia (i.e., making it policy-based, not making it political), and the ongoing professionalization of the site.

The early days, I'd say fall sometime before 2006, maybe before 2005. The admin bit flowed like cheap wine. I saw old successful RfAs from that period with ten "why not" supports and no opposes (said person still has his admin status, though came damn close to losing it last year). Those people tend to be a mixed bag. I met one at a Wikimedia conference last year who was a delightful, if eccentric, young woman. This group also includes a lot of curmudgeonly, trollish types, many of whom were driven out or just moved on. But by and large these folks are harmless, usually real knowledge lovers, and generally very technically savvy people.

The politicization of Wikipedia, I'd say falls after the early days, around where Wikipedia started to get a LOT of media attention, and when use of it as a vehicle for promotional activity grew exponentially. It was the heyday of random vandalism, but before edit filtering and effective automated vandal fighting techniques. Processes and procedures abounded. RfA and AfD were two places that became really complex and acerbic in this period. A lot of older folks didn't keep up and either retired or got pushed off when they broke some new rule (or new interpretation of an old rule). One of the big deals here was that, because the encyclopedia grew so much, walled gardens started to disappear.

The period we're in now, and where all the on-wiki GamerGate insanity comes from, I would call a period of professionalization. Wikipedia is big and they know it. Media reports of on-wiki conflicts and mistakes from the prior period (some of which are significant enough to have Wikipedia articles written about them) have put the fear of God into the Foundation and the hangers-on. As a result, people are becoming hypersensitive to reporting things that could upset article subjects. I'd say the Manning ArbCom case represented the final movement away from the previous period. The controversy over Eric Corbett and civility is another defining matter of this period. So, people are expected to behave as professionals in the public eye.

Now, what the hell is Ryulong? I would say he's someone who mentally belongs in the group of people from the early days: Savvy about minutiae and particular about his own way of thinking. He adapted to the period of politicization decently well, and generally knew where the axe of policy would fall, but ran afoul of it from time to time (presumably from his ties to the first group). Finally, as Wikipedia attempted to move away from a policy body to a professional body, Ryulong just couldn't adapt. You can't just bean people over the head with policy in quite the same way that you could in, say, 2009.

As for other old editors? I don't really know many. I feel like those that are successful managed to keep their walled gardens, and thereby avoid the conflicts that Ryulong stuck to: One guy I met, who has something like the #3 edit count, does nothing but categories. Others professionalized their own lives (some of the people who run the Wikimedia DC chapter, for instance). These folks are all pretty weird, but have not had the dramatic, public downfall that Ryulong had.
 
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...laims&curid=170904&diff=1487821&oldid=1487819

According to Ryulong, all Gamergaters are evil bastards because the genesis of Gamergate was based on an instance of harrassment, so anyone who is pro-GG is an evil asshole by default, no matter what they might claim is their real motive.

What's actually interesting about this is that Ryulong is using this as an opportunity to crucify all RWians who defied the hive mind narrative, much in the same way Tumblrites and SJWs attack those amongst them who attain common sense and call out the bullshit they were associated with.
 
One of the earliest lessons you learn on Wikipedia is that logic is meaningless. What matters is having at least two tireless people in support of an a particular side. And ideally those people won't use naughty words.

Wikipedia sanctions just won't come unless there's some single nugget of misbehavior you can latch onto and that can't be explained away. I got some guy with over 20K edits indefinitely blocked last year. Not because he was breaking the rules (and he was), but because he had assembled a wall of shame on Wikipedia making fun of other editors with whom he had fought.

The official reason for the block was a rule violation, but bringing the bullying out into the open in an ANI thread got other people on board and pushed him into making other, public missteps. The point, however, is that just bringing out the rulebreaking would have resulted in an intractable morass of an ANI thread that never went anywhere, or no significant response from anybody.
 
http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gamergate&curid=167863&diff=1489456&oldid=1489455

Troll posts Randi Harper expose, gets blown off as immaterial and Ryulong jumps to the conclusion it's gonna go after her family in Part 2.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gamergate&curid=167863&diff=1489547&oldid=1489546

Ryulong actually admits he just pulled some inflammatory horseshit off Harper's Twitter feed as gospel, whines about Milo getting attention from GGers.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gamergate&curid=167863&diff=1489613&oldid=1489612

After the same troll that had been shit talking Ryulong all day finally decides to do other things, Ryulong feels smug again as he insists on getting the last word.
 
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