Saints Row thread

AOM was reportedly yet another Fortnite clone before it was hastily re tooled, it was never going to succeed. This is a stand alone Saints Row game that had the potential to be good but won't because it's made by bitter cat ladies and third wave feminists who hate the source material and it's audience.
 
AOM was reportedly yet another Fortnite clone before it was hastily re tooled, it was never going to succeed. This is a stand alone Saints Row game that had the potential to be good but won't because it's made by bitter cat ladies and third wave feminists who hate the source material and it's audience.
From Fortnite clone to Overwatch knock-off? It's like going from cancer to ebola.
 
I bought AOM for $3 out of curiosity for how bad it is, and to see how it influenced the direction of nu-Saints Row.

For the former, I don't think it's a bad game, just very repetitive and grindy. I just figured out that the first missions for unlocking new characters are the open world activities (kill a patrol, save a hostage, etc.) cobbled together, and this game relies far too much on dungeons that have only one aesthetic (even the likes of Dragon Age II or TES IV: Oblivion had at least three different sets). The combat sort of reminds me of a more limited version of Mass Effect Andromeda, and the overall structure is like an offline version of Marvel's Avengers (tons of different crafting materials/currencies, empty world, overreliance on the same enemy types & dungeons, and cosmetics that are mostly recolors). I'll give credit for making each character feel unique, but this is easily the weakest game of the Saints Row series.

As for the latter, I don't honestly see anything that can explain what's happening to the new game. AOM has a diverse cast of characters, but it isn't as obnoxious or as preachy as the new game seems to be. The apparent disdain for the old games isn't here as Pierce, Oleg, Gat, and Kinzie are all present (even with the change in setting, their personalities remain more or less intact). Not even the sanitization is here as the original form of Freckle Bitch's appeared in Pierce's intro cutscene. The only thing that can explain the changes might be AOM bombing so badly that it shook Volition to its core, convincing those remaining that Saints Row had to be "modernized".

Overall, even though the game's painfully mediocre, I'm not sure if it can be blamed for how the new game's shaping up.
 
If AOM's flop hurt them that much, I honestly can't see them surviving if this Saints Row fails (unless the Epic deal acts like life support).
It actually might. IIRC, doesn't epeen reimburse a company of their development costs if the game fails to perform?
 
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Are there even any developers with any balls left, even in the indies?
Brad Wardell at Stardock has been making them seethe and fail to cope for years. Dude got sued by a woman for creating an unsafe work environment, fought back, and she was forced to settle and issue a public apology as a result of trying to drag his name through the mud.
 
Brad Wardell at Stardock has been making them seethe and fail to cope for years. Dude got sued by a woman for creating an unsafe work environment, fought back, and she was forced to settle and issue a public apology as a result of trying to drag his name through the mud.

Is he making anything new is the question. The last game Wardell made was GalCiv3.

Still devs these days are bound to the opinions of shareholders who hold the ability to censor people and the people who can take risks are in no position to make their own game
 
Is he making anything new is the question. The last game Wardell made was GalCiv3.

Still devs these days are bound to the opinions of shareholders who hold the ability to censor people and the people who can take risks are in no position to make their own game
From what I've heard around Ashes of the Singularity 2 is in the works, and they've built in far more moddability than in the first one.
 
AOM was reportedly yet another Fortnite clone before it was hastily re tooled, it was never going to succeed. This is a stand alone Saints Row game that had the potential to be good but won't because it's made by bitter cat ladies and third wave feminists who hate the source material and it's audience.
Yeah, and that's fucking depressing too, nothing is truly guaranteed to be safe from the woke horde. :^(
 
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I don't give a shit if the story is borked and full of woke shit as long as the core gameplay is fun, I hated both 3 and 4's storylines so another game where I just gloss over the cutscenes and go back to slicing up negros with a dick sword or blow up cops is all I want.
You say that but it is actually possible for a game's story and characters to be so absurdly obnoxious and annoying that the experience is ruined despite the gameplay being quite good. Borderlands 3 is probably the most infamous recent example of this.
 
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Other M comes to mind too, since it gameplay wise is pretty solid even given the insane requirements that Sakamoto pushed onto Team Ninja for the controls. But them cutscenes are so awful and against what decades of assumptions and Prime itself had that it makes it unplayable.
 
I don't give a shit if the story is borked and full of woke shit as long as the core gameplay is fun, I hated both 3 and 4's storylines so another game where I just gloss over the cutscenes and go back to slicing up negros with a dick sword or blow up cops is all I want.

If it's a copy/paste of 3 and 4 gameplay wise, what's the point of playing it instead of those games then?

Honest question. Cause so far a lot I have seen of this game just looks like same old same old gameplay wise.
 
If it's a copy/paste of 3 and 4 gameplay wise, what's the point of playing it instead of those games then?

Honest question. Cause so far a lot I have seen of this game just looks like same old same old gameplay wise.
Pretty much, 3 & 4 offer more or less the same experience in a far less embarrassing manner (in spite of Volition feeling ashamed).

I've no doubt that Volition is going to treat the game as seriously as a heart attack when compared to Watch Dogs 2. Whatever you guys might feel of its themes or characters, Ubisoft had the sense to take the piss a little bit with the setting and story (it helped that the game was in 2016, this game has 6 years of woke insanity to gestate from). Volition is only going to poke fun at "the right targets", and will do their damnedest to make the characters walking soapboxes.

For god's sake, they've stooped to censoring in game brands, just imagine how they'll tackle the overarching story.
 
What a shitshow.

From one of the most based modern developers who delivered fun, funny and violent games, to wokies plopping out the bastard child of Watch Dogs 2 and Fortnite... in what, less than a decade?

Are there even any developers with any balls left, even in the indies?
It really pisses me off because I've long had a special affinity for Volition since they had a very unique approach, openly making something similar to something that's popular, but putting enough of a fresh spin on to make it worthy on it's own instead of just another imitator.

The fact that even they have been ruined by Wokeness really speaks to how the heart and soul is being bled out of video games.
 
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