Saltyday Morning a Conversation with Shiro and JimJimJim (OIC) - A full on Tism event.

[Sup3r]

So this is the thing that PP claimed didn't happen but also happened but didn't, how would you know the thing that didn't happened happened unless you were in detractor channels or kiwifarms to read/see the thing that didn't happen happen.

Unfortunately Phil didn't need to go out of his way to find out. He's bound to have had several messages in his chat at the time and kinggoken claims to have emailed Phil in the same timespan, not even including the idea that he might've said something to piggy himself.

Honestly though, this was a pointless exercise. Asshole has repeatedly proven himself to be more than willing to make shit up for attention, and if he could be trusted, he shouldn't be anywhere near the vortex, let alone Phil's second in command and biggest whale.

 

[Nigel of Ukip]

Youtube criticisms for you Proper, also point and laugh is apparently a kiwi thing.
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What are these cucks on about? Proper did a great job. Why would anyone be nice to a paypig? Even less a paypig that ran ops against our community and was/is stupid enough to dump thousands on Phil. You insult them and make fun of them. We're not their support group, the fuck.

"Don't talk over someone and don't insult them! It's rude!" These fucking reddit tier detractors are the reason why throwing money at Phil with weird text is considered as hardcore trolling.

 

[We Are The Witches]

I don't care about insults, but I agree on letting someone finish their sentence. (in general, not because of this stream)

What's the famous saying? "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
The whole point is to listen what they have to say, otherwise you can just start the call, immediately insult them and hang up... wouldn't that be funny?

Now that I think about it, it would have been hilarious. A big "fuck you, I don't care" since some people complain about giving him so much attention and any leak being something they already know.

Missed opportunity, but this outcome was also fine.

 

[DukeMorty]

What are these cucks on about? Proper did a great job. Why would anyone be nice to a paypig? Even less a paypig that ran ops against our community and was/is stupid enough to dump thousands on Phil. You insult them and make fun of them. We're not their support group, the fuck.

"Don't talk over someone and don't insult them! It's rude!" These fucking reddit tier detractors are the reason why throwing money at Phil with weird text is considered as hardcore trolling.

I didn't mind how Proper insulted [REDACTED] it was actually pretty funny. If anything it shows how much of a cuck [REDACTED] is by letting someone insult you constantly like that in a interview. If it was me I would have told Proper to stfu or this interview is over. But jeez [REDACTED], you say you are muscular gym bro but you certainly acted like a little skinny basement dwelling bitch by receiving those insults. Before you say you wanted to be a better man, sorry you lost that title when you wanted to dox people because they hurt your feelings over the internet and you giving thousands of dollars to a manchild who spends it on sweaty JPEG men.

The one criticism I do have is that the questions were asked were lackluster and led to shit conversations. But at least you tried Proper and gave me a good laugh at [REDACTED].

 

[Dona Morte]

Youtube criticisms for you Proper, also point and laugh is apparently a kiwi thing.

Youtube comments are largely cancer.
It was absolutely OK to interrupt him as he went on these tangential rants and not answered the question.
Anything beyond that I will address to Proper/ Shiro if need be.
Right now no need.

 

[Shirō Ishii]

The questions were picked from me asking the mods and other people on the farms what they would've wanted asked. They were all chosen by me and Proper added in his own. I saw no point in asking too many questions about Phil himself as Phil's a hermit who doesn't trust anyone, so it was better to ask his relationship with Phil instead.

If the answers sounded rehearsed then it's because OIC wanted to get them ahead of time so he wouldn't ramble, though the goal was and I think we succeeded in having follow-up questions based off his answers, answers which he couldn't have rehearsed.

 

[LolCowCentral]

What are these cucks on about? Proper did a great job. Why would anyone be nice to a paypig? Even less a paypig that ran ops against our community and was/is stupid enough to dump thousands on Phil. You insult them and make fun of them. We're not their support group, the fuck.

"Don't talk over someone and don't insult them! It's rude!" These fucking reddit tier detractors are the reason why throwing money at Phil with weird text is considered as hardcore trolling.

If the goal is to get them to break pignosis and stop giving money to Phil then having these open dialogues would be the way to do it.

They would be more inclined to have these dialogues if they weren't being called retarded and gay every 5 minutes (even if they are)

But once again... don't let me stop anyone from detracting the way they want to detract. Everyone's end game is different but mine would be to see Phil fail and have to find a 9-5 and have his ego broken for the last time. This would be a good means to my end.

I respect any opposing viewpoints, however so it's okay if we respectfully (or disrespectfully) disagree

 

[Telemeter]

If the goal is to get them to break pignosis and stop giving money to Phil then having these open dialogues would be the way to do it.

They would be more inclined to have these dialogues if they weren't being called retarded and gay every 5 minutes (even if they are)

But once again... don't let me stop anyone from detracting the way they want to detract. Everyone's end game is different but mine would be to see Phil fail and have to find a 9-5 and have his ego broken for the last time. This would be a good means to my end.

I respect any opposing viewpoints, however so it's okay if we respectfully (or disrespectfully) disagree

LOL, the goal of OIC is to get people seething at him and/or DSP for being a successful beggar, that's it.

To OIC the detractors are the lolcows and DSP is just the tool to get to them, no one here is going to get him to stop doing shit.

I for one hope OIC keeps spending thousands of dollars to own the detractors, that owns them so hard! Go OIC, keep it up!

 

[Nigel of Ukip]

I don't care about insults, but I agree on letting someone finish their sentence. (in general, not because of this stream)

What's the famous saying? "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
The whole point is to listen what they have to say, otherwise you can just start the call, immediately insult them and hang up... wouldn't that be funny?

Now that I think about it, it would have been hilarious. A big "fuck you, I don't care" since some people complain about giving him so much attention and any leak being something they already know.

Missed opportunity, but this outcome was also fine.

Mora your opinion matters very little to me. I used to reply to you out of respect, now I reply simply because you took the time to ask a question and I will take the time to reply. You are smart enough to see Phil's scams for what they are yet you make him art and boost his forum activity. While on the other hand, you're here with us. Yet you are too cucked to leave Phil.

If the goal is to get them to break pignosis and stop giving money to Phil then having these open dialogues would be the way to do it.

They would be more inclined to have these dialogues if they weren't being called retarded and gay every 5 minutes (even if they are)

But once again... don't let me stop anyone from detracting the way they want to detract. Everyone's end game is different but mine would be to see Phil fail and have to find a 9-5 and have his ego broken for the last time. This would be a good means to my end.

I respect any opposing viewpoints, however so it's okay if we respectfully (or disrespectfully) disagree

You're absolutely right and several former wheelchairs are now here under top secret names simply because they saw we weren't bad.
However I put wheelchairs in different tiers. Mora's wheelchair tier is quite high, but not as high as OIC or Anonymouse. Even if we pat their ass and are kind to them, they simply don't care. So why not at least have a little laugh?
Look at what happened to PlanetJeff. His job had to close their Twitter, we all had a laugh and he fucked off. For good. Bullying works.
I know I've gotten somewhat bitter, but look at how many wheelchairs go "Phil is bad fuck Phil" only to a month later go back. We help them and want them to be better off only for them to go right back.

The one criticism I do have is that the questions were asked were lackluster and led to shit conversations. But at least you tried Proper and gave me a good laugh at [REDACTED].

Seriously mate, OIC just took it. I guess he likes being bullied. Proper the chad, vs OIC the virgin.
To be fair to Shiro and Proper, it was clear OIC is lying about most if not everything. Not much you can ask when you know you're being lied to. If it was me, I would've made more fun of him.

 

[We Are The Witches]

your opinion matters very little to me. I used to reply to you out of respect, now I reply simply because you took the time to ask a question and I will take the time to reply. You are smart enough to see Phil's scams for what they are yet you make him art and boost his forum activity. While on the other hand, you're here with us. Yet you are too cucked to leave Phil.

Since you're opening with that, I quite frankly do not care if my posts matter to you, I'm here to talk about topics I want to discuss and if I find anything interesting, you can ignore them if you like.

So like I've said, if you're actually having a discussion with OIC / whoever and it's supposed to be semi serious, you should try to avoid interrupting them.
Again this has not so much to do with Agent's livestream (I thought it was fun), but as an idea in general -you can think of it as a mini derailment™ on this thread on my part-, because I want to hear what goes through someone's train of thought uninterrupted before they have time to reconsider their phrasing.

 

[Agent Proper]

I don't care about insults, but I agree on letting someone finish their sentence. (in general, not because of this stream)

What's the famous saying? "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
The whole point is to listen what they have to say, otherwise you can just start the call, immediately insult them and hang up... wouldn't that be funny?

Now that I think about it, it would have been hilarious. A big "fuck you, I don't care" since some people complain about giving him so much attention and any leak being something they already know.

Missed opportunity, but this outcome was also fine.

Care to have an interview next? Or should I just ask KingGoken since he has been around, I have always wonder why you do hang around despite the events that have transpired. I'll be nicer to you.

 

[Kosher Dill]

So like I've said, if you're actually having a discussion with OIC / whoever and it's supposed to be semi serious, you should try to avoid interrupting them.

What exactly would you consider a "serious" discussion with someone who's just there to LARP and everyone knows it? It's like trying to have a serious conversation with Borat.

 

[UaineRunei]

Care to have an interview next? Or should I just ask KingGoken since he has been around, I have always wonder why you do hang around despite the events that have transpired. I'll be nicer to you.

Well, you can interview OIC's buddy, Six70Two, next!

 

[TheGoutburglar]

If the goal is to get them to break pignosis and stop giving money to Phil then having these open dialogues would be the way to do it.

They would be more inclined to have these dialogues if they weren't being called retarded and gay every 5 minutes (even if they are)

But once again... don't let me stop anyone from detracting the way they want to detract. Everyone's end game is different but mine would be to see Phil fail and have to find a 9-5 and have his ego broken for the last time. This would be a good means to my end.

I respect any opposing viewpoints, however so it's okay if we respectfully (or disrespectfully) disagree

I personally think we're way past the point where anyone left in Phil's circle can be redeemed, because OIC isn't the only one with an embarrassing financial waste and signs of being legit addicted. If it happens, it'll be independent of anything we say or do. It'll be from something in their personal lives. The fact that some have appeared to have cut the chord only to go back proves that beyond doubt. To put it bluntly, we're just not equipped or qualified to break the pignosis on anyone left.

So I could give a fuck less about fucking it up, because the odds of us doing the opposite are nearly zero, given what we're up against. And never forget, this is one of the people that Phil successfully grifted THOUSANDS out of. He shows no anger or regret over that. Maybe he feels it, but he's not telling. And if he never does, then there isn't anything to capitalize on. Until he does start talking about how much of a piece of shit Phil is for taking advantage of him, and much of a fool he has been for getting hooked, there's no progress to be made.

Basically, Cuck has to admit he has a problem before rehab can do anything. Same goes for the other remaining retards. After the bankruptcy, all the shit with the Champions account, and the bank leaks, anyone still around, is in the same shape Phil was when he watched wrestling as an adult and still thought it was real. You don't spend that much time and go through that much evidence without it saying a LOT about you when you learn nothing from any of it.

 

[We Are The Witches]

Care to have an interview next? Or should I just ask KingGoken since he has been around, I have always wonder why you do hang around despite the events that have transpired. I'll be nicer to you.

If I feel like I have something worth of saying, I'll post it on my own without prior announcing and expectations.
It's not going to be centered around me either, which is the vibes I got from this interview. But I understand it here, a bunch of people were curious about OIC as an individual.

But I really thank you for the offer.

 

[DukeMorty]

Honestly, we can interview all the paypigs and ask them their thoughts on Phil and why they donate to him but I feel like it would be fake information or just crap we already heard. What I want is an interview with the pigroach himself and tevin being the interviewer. Now that would be something I would watch in a heart beat. Obviously, Phil would lie but it would be great seeing him squirm around tevin and tevin just telling him to take a sip.

If anything this interview that happened and this talk about other paypigs being interviewed made me realize its pointless and boring. I think I will stick to just watching DSP screw up and seeing him destroy his own career. After all, Phil is always throwing that rope over the ceiling beam and hanging himself. But if people enjoy these paypig interviews then more power to you, they are funny but I came here to see Phil and not his cucks.

 

[Prince Lotor]

If the goal is to get them to break pignosis and stop giving money to Phil then having these open dialogues would be the way to do it.

They would be more inclined to have these dialogues if they weren't being called retarded and gay every 5 minutes (even if they are)

But once again... don't let me stop anyone from detracting the way they want to detract. Everyone's end game is different but mine would be to see Phil fail and have to find a 9-5 and have his ego broken for the last time. This would be a good means to my end.

I respect any opposing viewpoints, however so it's okay if we respectfully (or disrespectfully) disagree

I'm not here to deprogram people from a cult though, I'm here to laugh at people for being so retarded they felt the need to join The Cult of Phil Burnell.

In this case it was OIC requesting a detractor platform to do this on. He wasn't reached out to and invited on as a special guest. OIC is a spastically lonely liar who joined the Cult of Burnell because he identifies with the attention whoring aspect of Phil's chat. Calling him a fagot and telling him to go blow bubbles the whole time as he tries to attention whore harder was the way to go I think.

I also don't put much stock into appealing to the intelligence of the mentally deficient dents Phil has whittled his community down to. I don't think any of them are suddenly going to 'wake up' and 'go clear' because of a detractor video they were watching.

 

[Piece of Peace]

I think for the most part the truly indoctrinated paypigs cannot be forced out of pignosis by an outside influence until they themselves are good and ready for it.

It takes a special twisted logic to buy into the pig slop that DSP peddles as his truth in the first place, and so it stands to reason that an equivalent amount of mental energy is required to bring themselves back to reality.

 

[bobatnight]

Think Agent did good at times of chasing OIC down for trying to avoid the question, and other times you just needed to zip it up but that's all been addressed really.

Seems like OIC was enjoying some kinda' power dynamic with Phil and then started really cooming to the attention he got from the Farms. Probably doesn't have much going on in his life and this was some kind of rush for him.
Honestly gained some respect for Phil in the way he handled the odd email about budgets that OIC sent him.

 

[Dona Morte]

I think for the most part the truly indoctrinated paypigs cannot be forced out of pignosis by an outside influence until they themselves are good and ready for it.

It takes a special twisted logic to buy into the pig slop that DSP peddles as his truth in the first place, and so it stands to reason that an equivalent amount of mental energy is required to bring themselves back to reality.

I dunno man Slayer's mom was pretty affective for now.