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Aren't you the guy who married his autistic sister?
Saltyday Morning a Conversation with Shiro and JimJimJim (OIC) - A full on Tism event.
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It was $1000 overnight, and he hid the Streamlabs leaderboard.
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This is part of why I don't think he's hiding that much in behind-the-scenes payments, because he's so incompetent that the community keeps finding out about them anyway. He can't hide shit to save his life.
DarkSoulsPhil
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I knew it was something stupid like that. I reckon his chat was WAY more north korea mode back then than now
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DarkSoulsPhil
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I got married late last year, made mention of my autistic sister in the same post and that bloke crossed his wires a few months later.
Not sure how he crossed his wires though, wishful thinking? We are on KF after all.
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If tips are prearranged in the way it was described in the stream, then it's very similar to a scam and actually goes against what DSP has said (in some ways, you can get me on a technicality but not by common sense).
I'll elaborate because I know DSP would discredit the claim as baseless: it's a scam because if he has reasonable expectations that the goal will be met after the break / towards the end of the stream -from a trusted donor no less-, while encouraging people to reach that goal and without disclosing that someone plans to contribute like that, then he's using a direct lie or by omission for financial gain.
I can be wrong if I was misinformed on something and its context, I still need to see those emails. In any case, saying to your audience that a big tip is most likely coming is the least you can do, has DSP done this?
Also, I'm not sure if all OIC's tips were done at the beginning of the stream, so then he wouldn't have time to disclose it (but he would still need to delete what people refer to as "begging tweets"). That's why I'm only talking if there's enough time between DSP's knowledge of it and the transaction being made, so that people would be fooled in the meantime.
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I want to be careful on this, because I already know what he would say. DSP stated that he would not accept contributions outside transparent means:
Of course his defense is that he's talking about those made outside of streams, like Western Union or checks (you can thank Michael -the "Gmail Kid"- for making him say that), so as long as the tip was visibly done (when it happens) then there's no problem.
-But you supposedly know that a tip is coming, shouldn't you be transparent about it even if it has not been made yet?
--DSP: How would I know if they're actually contributing? What if they don't and then everyone stops donating and then I'm fucked, can't pay my bills. Stupidity, tss-ssss.
This is just being dishonest, specially when the person has already spent thousands on you. Like I've said there are reasonable expectations that the money will go through by the end of the day, so informing your audience is the most basic gesture you can give them.
And this is only with OIC, any prearrangement that concludes towards the end of a livestream, is all that time lying to your audience through omission.
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I can be wrong if I was misinformed on something and its context, I still need to see those emails. In any case, saying to your audience that a big tip is most likely coming is the least you can do, has DSP done this?
Also, I'm not sure if all OIC's tips were done at the beginning of the stream, so then he wouldn't have time to disclose it (but he would still need to delete what people refer to as "begging tweets"). That's why I'm only talking if there's enough time between DSP's knowledge of it and the transaction being made, so that people would be fooled in the meantime.
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I want to be careful on this, because I already know what he would say. DSP stated that he would not accept contributions outside transparent means:
Of course his defense is that he's talking about those made outside of streams, like Western Union or checks (you can thank Michael -the "Gmail Kid"- for making him say that), so as long as the tip was visibly done (when it happens) then there's no problem.
-But you supposedly know that a tip is coming, shouldn't you be transparent about it even if it has not been made yet?
--DSP: How would I know if they're actually contributing? What if they don't and then everyone stops donating and then I'm fucked, can't pay my bills. Stupidity, tss-ssss.
This is just being dishonest, specially when the person has already spent thousands on you. Like I've said there are reasonable expectations that the money will go through by the end of the day, so informing your audience is the most basic gesture you can give them.
And this is only with OIC, any prearrangement that concludes towards the end of a livestream, is all that time lying to your audience through omission.
DarkSoulsPhil
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I wouldnt trust anything OIC said. He was caught out by a fucked up Proper a few times and admitted to pointless lies (fiance, dog). This feels very similar to the escort saga. We heard information that we wanted to hear and believed it more because a few things stuck, ignoring the other things that either didnt stick or were wrong. Im not saying its all lies but the source is hardly reputable. Specifically on behind the scenes, Phil has been caught out either receiving or negotiating behind the scenes tips multiple times.
What would I believe? The emails. It involves some form of evidence besides 'its true because I said so'. And they can be faked too.
Ultimately it comes down to one of my favourite memes: Do you think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
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Wild Turkey mixed with Coors Light will get you a mixed reaction, but fuck it I did it my way and if you took anything that came out of his mouth seriously, you were probably more fucked but than I was. I am in the camp that it was pointless to talk to him. Caught him on a few lies and I don't think many people would just shit on him, the Faggot knew it was coming.
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know how I could tell what he was saying was and I'll use a phrase from the email from Phil and that's mostly half truths and lies is that he said I've been around this part of the internet for a long longer than you talking about the sperg faggotry on 4 and 8 chan and reddit. Used to see fucks like this all the time on a certain games forums and there were some real whoppers with more evidence talking dudes saying they were retired commercial pilots with 20k hours that lived in penthouses overlooking rio with smokin' hot model wives and secret agent men who own a ranch for physical therapy driving around in one of several high end sedans or suv's free from the government.
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Youtube criticisms for you Proper, also point and laugh is apparently a kiwi thing.
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You know a community has "arrived" when it includes members who enjoy feeling superior by dunking on a different sphere of it, like folks on YT or Reddit are prone to doing to the Farms.
This is exactly the kind of shit that makes detractors like supercrazy super annoying. If you think you're better than anybody else who spends their free time laughing at retards, you're probably closer to deserving a thread on a site like this than you'll ever admit. We're all jackasses, acknowledge that or risk becoming the fat ape stuck in a cage.
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I listened to the whole video and I can agree. Asking him a question and then when he tries to answer starts talking over and constantly berating him. It was cringe with calling him gay every few minutes when he is there doing you a favor. And yes....he had nothing to gain really from it. He didn't stand to look better after it. I'm still not even sure why he agreed to it to be honest.
While I'm not a fan of OIC I do think if someone man's up and agrees to talk with you for hours, gets on and calmly chats with you, and is answering your questions that maybe you give him the chance to be heard
With that being said ...maybe we missed a lot "behind the scenes" in DMs with each other and there was some built up anger/aggression.
From just someone listening to the podcast in the car and on a drive I was like "let the guy finish a goddamn sentence lol"
It's hard to want to give OIC a break after all of the sperging and lying he has done. There still were some conflicting statements in the interview(like when proper said something along the lines of spoofing another number to make more accounts and OIC said "why would anyone go through the trouble so support someone like DSP" right after talking about making accounts to tip him and hit members goals with but he wasn't lying...he was just hypocritical.
Aside from those examples he showed up, he was calm, talked rationally, was answering your questions and as a reward he kept being berated and talked over.
I found it interesting that he really did seem like a normal guy (aside from being a DSP supporter).
I loved the concept of "interview with a DSP fan" It was a great idea and I know a lot went in to getting him on the show.
Truth be told ...I nearly never listen to anything over 30 minutes on youtube but i would 100% dial in to hours of these chats with his paypigs but for that... one must be respectful to the guest. Ask questions and listen. You have a great idea with the concept and could generate a ton of views (and likely revenue).
We all know they would love the attention and we would love a deep dive into their pyche.
I just doubt more wheelchairs/dentheads will join just to be mistreated ...or maybe I'm wrong and they will because that's how Phil keeps them around)
But what the fuck do I know... I don't stream or do podcasts.
Edit: did you guys after recording stopped connect and clarify what he was holding over Phil's head? He said he has something on Phil and Phil knows it. That's some shit I'd be curious about.
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It couldn't possibly be anything interesting. In the unlikely case that it's not just a lie, the "dirt" on Phil would just be something about hiding tips or deceptive begging practices. You know, the stuff that anyone undented already knows.
That email from Phil to OIC is still not verified as real, but if it is it shows that Phil absolutely won't let his creepy paypigs into his personal life at all. Unless OIC literally did go stalk Kat at the grocery store or something, he knows nothing more than we do.
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You've basically answered your own complaint, this isn't someone who terribly deserves to be allowed a chance to air everything out because, if they're telling the truth about having something on Phil, they still haven't done that, and if they're not, they're wasting our time anyway.
We've said around here before: don't lead people on, don't tease, just drop the fucking bomb if you have one, or fuck off. That goes doubly so for anyone known for supporting Phil with THOUSANDS of dollars, which just by itself makes it impossible to care about letting them speak if it's not 100% the kind of juicy shit we care about and can actually USE.
The only thing OIC said that remotely qualifies is stating that tips are pre-arranged, but that private communication posted demonstrates that that's not terribly useful because Phil is clearly way too paranoid to admit even behind the scenes to working WITH someone he's grifting, in order to grift everyone else. So I have no reason to believe he has anything on Phil. For all his fuck ups, the pigroach has done a pretty good job of keeping the major shit from coming out of him, in his communications he thought would stay private, because he's talking to the people he's most afraid of being transparent with.
Also, you can blame Anonymouse to an extent, for giving a lot of us a much lower opinion of Phil's fans. We treated him the way you ask us to treat OIC, and you saw what that got us.
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@LolCowCentral Thanks for the feed back my guy I appreciate it. It will help me be better for next time something like this gets dropped on me and yeah I know I was being an asshole to OIC, I thought it would tilt him a bit get him off of his train of thought, but I hate being lied to, this whole song and dance about showing up on Phil's stream and getting attention from here made him stick around yet he didn't think once about I shouldn't support Phil. I think he was lonely, had cash to burn, got attention for his actions, and people to maybe care about him. To Phil he is an open wallet and to me he is a faggot that got way too deep and didn't know what to do so he kept just digging. There is no dirt on Phil, the best information we got from this was about the prearranged tips, sock confirmation and account verification here.
My comment section is filled with comments like this and sure I deserve the let the other guy speak ones, but I do my thing and if pointing and laughing is just a KF thing then we are really in clown world. I think the idea of a YouTube Detractor Community is over, there is just too many different styles and decent content that it is too spread out and it is a good thing, I rather be here.
My comment section is filled with comments like this and sure I deserve the let the other guy speak ones, but I do my thing and if pointing and laughing is just a KF thing then we are really in clown world. I think the idea of a YouTube Detractor Community is over, there is just too many different styles and decent content that it is too spread out and it is a good thing, I rather be here.
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I like how we’re giving literal retard interviews the same journalistic critique we’d give a high profile interview. Smh.
No offense Agent Proper, but you could stick Anderson Cooper in there and it would still be a dumpster fire.
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So this is the thing that PP claimed didn't happen but also happened but didn't, how would you know the thing that didn't happened happened unless you were in detractor channels or kiwifarms to read/see the thing that didn't happen happen.
It's cool and all but what can a whale tell us that we don't already know? Behind the scene tips, even phil knows we know about that...or at least suspected it. They contribute to phil cause they're a community of like minded people who feel slighted by mean people on the internet so they belong with the king of victimhood, kinda figured that. Trolls punching the air and all. Repeating the same made up bullshit they say in phils chat to brag to each other, well yeah.
The one take away is, OIC is a boring mother fucker. I don't blame proper for talking over him or pressing questions, OIC either lied, gave "politician" answers, gave "oh yeah right what you said" responses or gloated about his lies.
The claim he has emails and things over phil's head, hasn't he said this before...2 times IIRC when he first tried to brag here about doing super rip taylor gay ops and around the bank leaks, again, IIRC. Shit or get off the pot OIC.
I find Phil fascinating, the middle of the night twitter sperg out on capcom and burger king on his Fort Knox twitter account looking for validation is like watching a train wreck happen, OIC I used to think was more interesting than phil but he's just a dude who needs to get laid or get some friends or a better hobby then throwing money at a gouty beggar...maybe something creative and hands on.
Though, one question...for some chad with so much money, why does your mic sound like one of those 90's ones you get free with a gateway? there's toss away $20 headsets on amazon that have better quality.
It's cool and all but what can a whale tell us that we don't already know? Behind the scene tips, even phil knows we know about that...or at least suspected it. They contribute to phil cause they're a community of like minded people who feel slighted by mean people on the internet so they belong with the king of victimhood, kinda figured that. Trolls punching the air and all. Repeating the same made up bullshit they say in phils chat to brag to each other, well yeah.
The one take away is, OIC is a boring mother fucker. I don't blame proper for talking over him or pressing questions, OIC either lied, gave "politician" answers, gave "oh yeah right what you said" responses or gloated about his lies.
The claim he has emails and things over phil's head, hasn't he said this before...2 times IIRC when he first tried to brag here about doing super rip taylor gay ops and around the bank leaks, again, IIRC. Shit or get off the pot OIC.
I find Phil fascinating, the middle of the night twitter sperg out on capcom and burger king on his Fort Knox twitter account looking for validation is like watching a train wreck happen, OIC I used to think was more interesting than phil but he's just a dude who needs to get laid or get some friends or a better hobby then throwing money at a gouty beggar...maybe something creative and hands on.
Though, one question...for some chad with so much money, why does your mic sound like one of those 90's ones you get free with a gateway? there's toss away $20 headsets on amazon that have better quality.
LolCowCentral
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Like I said...I enjoyed the concept. Really great idea. I hope you can get more DSP fans on. Give them a chance to explain why they support him the way they do and tell us what we can't seem to see with him (and never will)
We know a lot of them really are mentally (and physically in Rob's case) handicap so I know it has to be done with some degree of finesse but I'd watch the shit out of those streams.
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I know it's hard to tell if any of them are actually capable of having a normal conversation from the way they act in chat. Maybe TimboSlice next since everyone already knows all of his info anyway. He stands nothing to lose from having a chat.
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@LolCowCentral we didn't talk after about what he had over Phil's head and as I've said previously, we only did this because suprcrzy told OIC to go fuck himself for not doing it the way crzy wanted it and for taking too long to respond. OIC wanted to still do it and he would have liked to have done it with @Piece of Peace or Proper, with Proper being his first choice.
Also, iirc, OIC was using his phone to talk which would've explained the low-quality of his mic as it didn't sound that bad when I VC'd with him on discord when he was on his computer
Also, iirc, OIC was using his phone to talk which would've explained the low-quality of his mic as it didn't sound that bad when I VC'd with him on discord when he was on his computer