🐟 Fishtank Sam Hyde's Fishtank.live General - Jet Neptune's Little House of Horrors

[Rolex]

Been thinking about what they could have done in S3 prevent the horrible burnout in the final weeks of the season.
Seems to me that the biggest issue was trying to make Famous House 2.0 an identical premise to 1.0, which immediately caused fatigue because it required production to tighten back up with the same precision as week 1. The ONLY reason the reveal was so good was because production put some real effort into maintaining the illusion up until day 13. Sam playing super nice, Gay Ben chastising people over wrongthink, heavily moderated TTS with big emphasis being put on it being "AI" and a huge part of the game, and generally tons of babysitting the contestants.
This was all super funny and tension-building in those first weeks, but it's clear that no one was prepared to do it again, and I don't think the viewers were ready to watch it again.

The fix would have been to make FH2.0 a completely different show with production playing different characters and to have more Fish go into it. Instead of 4, it should have been 5 or 6. Maybe call it Party House or something where everyone is supposed to have fun and do social challenges. Keep the AI house idea and restrict TTS for a week, then do secret challenges for the remaining contestants. Make a contestant cry, steal someone's stuff and dump sauce on it, typical fishtank stuff. Everyone else just parties like they're in college. Voting would be a maybe, but make the Fish secretly immune to it. They'd be eliminated by failing challenges. Their main goal would be to get everyone pissed enough to leave or get kicked out.

Obviously that's just a basic idea only slightly different than what 2.0 ended up being, but my point is that making everyone rehash 1.0 was what killed the momentum of the show. It needed a different premise and new surprises. It could have been DnD House or Dating House or whatever.

 

[A Distant Northern Land]

Moving it to 4 weeks would fix a lot of problems if it's going to be a cast of 8. Could pop out a season/ event every 4 months.
All 3 seasons felt like they ran out of ideas about 2/3rds in

Only problem is that the second half of each season is probably all profit (at least that’s why I assume they try to salvage things at the end after weeks of sitting around a destroyed house letting TTS run). Sure the freeloaders and secondary wiggers probably get a day rate but all the furniture, game supplies, car rentals, server hosting, AV equipment, flights etc. are already accounted for and they just need to be cleaned up eventually.

 

[Halloween23]

I need that money, I really really do, to pay my bills.

 

[Aidan]

Sam once again almost totally ruining the show (he kinda did ruin the last third of S3) by flipping out and picking the worst option possible to deal with a creepy fish. He literally could have just asked Brandon to leave instead he ruined the whole house vibes and then got Brandon and his boyfriend to accuse them of all types of shit. So stupid man. Nothing learned from Simmons.

I think Sam's reaction was fine but then going easy on the fish who were ok with Brandon made it seem purely performative. Then you have Jet singing another tune about keeping Brandon around a little longer to fuck with him... Jet is clearly ok with actually evil people and I think he knew who he was when he invited him on.

The fishtank schedule has to be fucking brutal for production. I hope all the new wiggers they got filling the house aren't retards and genuinely help keep production from doing lazy burnout shit that happens every season.

Probably being too optimistic though.

How could it be a brutal schedule except for when it's live? They have ample time to prepare in between seasons but even during S2 they waited until the last minute to get the house and consequently it wasn't ready on time.

 

[BullfrogBill]

Calling the subhumans on the Fishtank subreddit MDE fans feels like a huge stretch to me. A good amount of them outright hate Sam in a way I've only seen on that reddit and it really doesn't seem like they like his other shit.

A lot of regulars in this very thread hate Sam in a way I've only seen on Reddit, so I agree and don't think Fishtank fans like MDE tbh. It seems like a large amount of Fishtankers would rather Sam never showed his face on the show again.

Also Jet says he wants to cut down the interval between seasons since he feels the "fans need time to recharge" was more an excuse for himself than reality.

Except Jet was right and fans do need time between seasons to recharge. If Jet is serious about his plan of Fishtank running 24/7 forever with minimal breaks between seasons from now on like he said in the investor stream then my future of watching Fishtank might be coming to an end soon because I seriously can't justify spending my literal entire life watch Fishtank at my computer 24/7 and Fishtank isn't nearly as fun when you aren't going to no life a season. In fact, if you aren't planning on pulling a no life on a season you might as well just watch the edits and forget the show even streams live. And with the schedule they are shooting for, they are going to be on s16 before the s4 edits even come out. Jet can't help himself but to always learn the wrong fucking lessons from this show, he's such a fucking idiot.

 

[joker jimmy]

I have no problem paying ten dollars to watch the show, honestly. I’m not sure why people expect it to be free. As a side note, why is this thread suddenly full of /pol/ posters?

Nine poz rates, twelve neg. Interesting split in the community. Having been here for a while I understand not wanting to pay for things like the end of Season 2.

 

[BullfrogBill]

tbh i feel vindicated since it turns out that making fishtank all about fucking with normies was in fact a bad idea that ended up cucking content and getting obsessive weirdo freaks to constantly call the cops and the fish not being in on it created extra uncertainty about the whole thing for the cops so they kept needing to come back every time some jackass called to say "burts freaking out again" or "they're harassing the local pedofaggot"

S1/2 was easy for them because it was just a bunch of retards being retarded for the internet in a house, and they could all easily explain to the cops that yes, they wanted to be there, they were relatively sane and sober, and all the hassling and whatnot was consensual.

What the hell is this idea that the s3 fish were somehow the most normal and well adjusted people, they're not they are far from it. The s1 fish were more normies than the s3 fish were. And by the way, the wiggers have had the cops called on the show multiple times every season, it's not a problem exclusive to s3. s3 isn't even the only season to harass a pedofaggot so this post makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Kitty Cat Man]

What the hell is this idea that the s3 fish were somehow the most normal and well adjusted people, they're not they are far from it. The s1 fish were more normies than the s3 fish were. And by the way, the wiggers have had the cops called on the show multiple times every season, it's not a problem exclusive to s3. s3 isn't even the only season to harass a pedofaggot so this post makes absolutely no sense.

pretty much everyone in S1 knew who sam was and if they didn't they were very online people that generally understood what the show was about. S3 people were like theatre kids, thots, and dudebros who all fell into weird normie dynamics. are you forgetting that like three of the girls and some homo had a literal cry party when shit got too "scary and toxic" - it was good content but it also attracted the wrong kinda attention.

and come on, Simmons wasn't a super tapped in pedo with clout in the troon scene he was just a random freak publishing his freaky fantasies on amazon. brandon apparently had people calling in talking about how they're doing hate crimes. way different.

and yes ik callers happen every season, but S3 looked especially sus to the cops because they were shown clips where people appeared to be in real distress, were contacted by real family members, etc whereas the other seasons came across as a bunch of nerds doing a edgier version of big brother.

by the way, when i say normie i don't mean well-adjusted normal person. normies are usually down bad. the type of person going to casting calls for a reality show are usually down bad.

 

[Nottafed]

What the hell is this idea that the s3 fish were somehow the most normal and well adjusted people, they're not they are far from it. The s1 fish were more normies than the s3 fish were. And by the way, the wiggers have had the cops called on the show multiple times every season, it's not a problem exclusive to s3. s3 isn't even the only season to harass a pedofaggot so this post makes absolutely no sense.

I'd go so far as to say Luke and Letty were the only people close to normal the show has had. (and thats a stretch)

 

[BullfrogBill]

pretty much everyone in S1 knew who sam was

If by pretty much everyone you mean only 3 of them then sure. Vance, Sylvia, and Letty are the only 3 that knew who Sam was, and Letty admittedly wasn't an actual fan of Sam and was only aware of his existence. Mauro, Jon, Josie, and Simmons all didn't know who Sam was and Damiel doesn't count. I've come to terms with the fact that knowing about Fishtank isn't the most important thing and the best season would probably be a mix of people who know about and other people who are unaware.

and come on, Simmons wasn't a super tapped in pedo

Simmons is a pedophile. I hate those FT fans that think Simmons was just an innocent wholesome ESL chungus that didn't know he was writing a guide to being a pedophile. They tend to be Redditors of course.

and yes ik callers happen every season, but S3 looked especially sus to the cops because they were shown clips where people appeared to be in real distress, were contacted by real family members, etc whereas the other seasons came across as a bunch of nerds doing a edgier version of big brother.

This is extremely dramatic and backwards. S2 was way darker than s3 was and s2 involved animals even. The s2 edits actually ended with a cop searching the place after the fact I assume due to all the calls they were getting. S3 was literally "edgy big brother" you're talking about down to the fact that Luke from Big Brother was there. s2 was supposed to feel like a dark cult, it was 100% more suspicious and menacing than s3 was. The only thing that would be suspicious to the cops in s3 is Brandon's presence.

 

[Kitty Cat Man]

I've come to terms with the fact that knowing about Fishtank isn't the most important thing and the best season would probably be a mix of people who know about and other people who are unaware.

That's not really my point, my point is that they should stick to drawing from a terminally online pool, which basically everyone entertaining in the previous two seasons was.

Simmons is a pedophile. I hate those FT fans that think Simmons was just an innocent wholesome ESL chungus that didn't know he was writing a guide to being a pedophile. They tend to be Redditors of course.

not saying this, what simmons got up to was just as deplorable as brandon he just didn't have clout in the LGBTQP scene, which is what caused the brandon issues. simmons was kicked out and dealt with early and went back to being a freak gooning in his room, brandon spent the rest of the season trying to make a point and using his clout to do so.

s2 was supposed to feel like a dark cult, it was 100% more suspicious and menacing than s3 was. The only thing that would be suspicious to the cops in s3 is Brandon's presence.

i don't really think you know how american cops see things, s2 having an overtly darker tone while everyone being was clearly on-board and able to easily explain to any LEO's poking around that it was in-fact a game show made it less sus to the cops than s3 where they had family members, cast member's friends, and the entire rainbow coalition emailing the cops very credible sounding accusations

 

[Sicko Hunter]

Simmons is a pedophile. I hate those FT fans that think Simmons was just an innocent wholesome ESL chungus that didn't know he was writing a guide to being a pedophile. They tend to be Redditors of course.

Been here day 1 of season 1 and I don't use Reddit Simmons did not write a guide on how to groom children. The "grooming book" was a poorly written PDF he dedicated to his dad (yes seriously) that has a very weird passage in it where he gives an example of what not to do as a camp counselor. He then says "here's how to do it the right way" which you would assume is him then giving advice on how to be a predator the right way but he just then links to Youtube advice videos on working at a camp. There is nothing in it about hitting on children or having sex with them he even warns against camp counselors having crushes on campers in the book. It was basically a perfect storm of Simmons already being a weird freak who was very creepy around Jon which make it super believable and production leaving out the actual context of the passage in the book. I'll attach the PDF for anyone who cares.

The fact anyone thought that Simmons wrote a book on how to groom children and then said "yeah let me sell this grooming pedophile book on Amazon with my full legal name that make sense!" is so retarded it's hilarious. Actually apply critical thinking skills to the shit people say about the show. Use your brain and think "is this logical? Would a pedophile sell a book about fucking kids on Amazon.com?"

 

[Kitty Cat Man]

Actually apply critical thinking skills to the shit people say about the show. Use your brain and think "is this logical? Would a pedophile sell a book about fucking kids on Amazon.com?"

while it wasn't an explicit grooming manual, within the context of simmons as a person it's clearly the writings of someone fetishizing summer camp life and the relationships that it could potentially lead to(illegal, creepy ones).

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

Apparently Burt made a guest appearance on Danny Mullen's podcast.

 

[joker jimmy]

Been here day 1 of season 1 and I don't use Reddit Simmons did not write a guide on how to groom children. The "grooming book" was a poorly written PDF he dedicated to his dad (yes seriously) that has a very weird passage in it where he gives an example of what not to do as a camp counselor. He then says "here's how to do it the right way" which you would assume is him then giving advice on how to be a predator the right way but he just then links to Youtube advice videos on working at a camp. There is nothing in it about hitting on children or having sex with them he even warns against camp counselors having crushes on campers in the book. It was basically a perfect storm of Simmons already being a weird freak who was very creepy around Jon which make it super believable and production leaving out the actual context of the passage in the book. I'll attach the PDF for anyone who cares.

The fact anyone thought that Simmons wrote a book on how to groom children and then said "yeah let me sell this grooming pedophile book on Amazon with my full legal name that make sense!" is so retarded it's hilarious. Actually apply critical thinking skills to the shit people say about the show. Use your brain and think "is this logical? Would a pedophile sell a book about fucking kids on Amazon.com?"

I fucking salute you for needing to make this argument here for two continuous years. I know you catch flak but you’re right. This place has the same reaction as Sylvia, false retching into the sink performatively.

 

[BullfrogBill]

Been here day 1 of season 1 and I don't use Reddit Simmons did not write a guide on how to groom children. The "grooming book" was a poorly written PDF he dedicated to his dad (yes seriously) that has a very weird passage in it where he gives an example of what not to do as a camp counselor. He then says "here's how to do it the right way" which you would assume is him then giving advice on how to be a predator the right way but he just then links to Youtube advice videos on working at a camp. There is nothing in it about hitting on children or having sex with them he even warns against camp counselors having crushes on campers in the book. It was basically a perfect storm of Simmons already being a weird freak who was very creepy around Jon which make it super believable and production leaving out the actual context of the passage in the book. I'll attach the PDF for anyone who cares.

Then why did the fish read the passages themselves directly from the print book the wiggers bought from Amazon on camera? Did Sam himself edit the book and print it himself to include passages saying "you single the girls out so they know" or "There was a counselor who worked for a camp decades ago and everyone loved him but he got fired for offering drinks to underaged girls and allegedly raped them, here's how to that the right way." There were passages directly about how the camp counselor should give the campers a "romantic experience" and advice always boils down to don't get caught by your superiors. I don't think Sam doctored the book to include them, Simmons is a pedophile who wrote it.

Why the fuck does this thread always come back to wanting to discuss defending pedophiles? The Fishtank fanbase is properly cursed.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

I fucking salute you for needing to make this argument here for two continuous years. I know you catch flak but you’re right. This place has the same reaction as Sylvia, false retching into the sink performatively.

I appreciate it. Every single time it comes up I get accused of defending a pedo and it's pretty ridiculous. Literally all one needs to do is read the PDF from themselves to see it was not some child grooming manual lol.

Why the fuck does this thread always come back to wanting to discuss defending pedophiles? The Fishtank fanbase is properly cursed.

No one is defending pedophiles. If you care about the truth read the PDF (which again is dedicated to his own father) and see for yourself. You don't though and won't so there is no real point to us even having this conversation. You want Simmons to be a pedophile.

Seriously, for anyone who is doubting me I want you to go back to my post on the last page and click the PDF. Go read it for yourself and make up your mind. Is this a child grooming manual Simmons wrote because he's a pedophile or is it a socially retarded Chinese man's attempt at grifting off of a camp counselor guide?

 

[Polska krowa]

Then why did the fish read the passages themselves directly from the print book the wiggers bought from Amazon on camera? Did Sam himself edit the book and print it himself to include passages saying "you single the girls out so they know" or "There was a counselor who worked for a camp decades ago and everyone loved him but he got fired for offering drinks to underaged girls and allegedly raped them, here's how to that the right way." There were passages directly about how the camp counselor should give the campers a "romantic experience" and advice always boils down to don't get caught by your superiors. I don't think Sam doctored the book to include them, Simmons is a pedophile who wrote it.

Why the fuck does this thread always come back to wanting to discuss defending pedophiles? The Fishtank fanbase is properly cursed.

Oh boy oh boy, it's time for @BullfrogBill's weekly spergout/derailment about Brandon and nonces!!!!

 

[Clarence Boddicker]

Then why did the fish read the passages themselves directly from the print book the wiggers bought from Amazon on camera? Did Sam himself edit the book and print it himself to include passages saying "you single the girls out so they know" or "There was a counselor who worked for a camp decades ago and everyone loved him but he got fired for offering drinks to underaged girls and allegedly raped them, here's how to that the right way." There were passages directly about how the camp counselor should give the campers a "romantic experience" and advice always boils down to don't get caught by your superiors. I don't think Sam doctored the book to include them, Simmons is a pedophile who wrote it.

Why the fuck does this thread always come back to wanting to discuss defending pedophiles? The Fishtank fanbase is properly cursed.

It really does look like Simmons was just transcribing Youtube videos and turning them into "books" that can be sold on Amazon cheaply as some sort of grift. He more than likely has zero idea what's in them. Arguing that isn't defending pedophilia.

 

[BullfrogBill]

Oh boy oh boy, it's time for @BullfrogBill's weekly spergout/derailment about Brandon and nonces!!!!