Careercow Scott Raymond Adams / @ScottAdamsSays / “Real Coffee With Scott Adams” - The Washed Up Cartoonist Behind “Dilbert”, Creator of “The Dilberito”, Professional Bullying Victim, Political Grifter, Terminally Online Narcissistic Boomer, Divorced Twice, Is (Not) Glad His Stepson Overdosed. This is Not a Racial Politics Debate Thread

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This is all pretty sad. Adams got famous because he struck a chord with everyone who felt powerless in the face of corporate culture. Now he’s trying to use the power he has to frighten another cartoonist for hurting his feelings with a frankly not very good parody. Adams of the 90s would have laughed at Adams of the 2020s.
 
Not only does Scott have no case against parody, Ben Garrison is literally right about everything he is mocking about Scott.
  • Clott did get the shots.
  • He did it because he followed The Science.
  • He did cope saying that people that were right where he wasn't were just guessing right.
  • He did have meltdowns on stream over this.
  • Even the other references like his whore wife are on point even if they aren't relevant.
Here is my previous post outlining this exact issue.


Scott is just using his usual copes of "I can't be wrong because I think on probabilities" and "you can't call me out on my beliefs that's just mindreading haha" while ignoring what he said out loud previously for everyone to hear, albeit with ever diminishing returns.

I do want him to follow through with sueing, I want him to see his persuasion utterly flopping and getting crushed by the simple facts. It's the only way his narcissistic ass will ever learn.

Also it's been a year and the dummy still hasn't taken the L, god dammit.
With Adams it's funny that he would always tout Elon as genius. While he's a smart business man he hasn't done anything that impressive in engineering. People compare him to Edison but Edison had a few patents to his actual name. When I used to listen to him it would be off putint whenever he talked about Elon as a scientist

He relies on the data and attacks people for being right since they ignored the data, but there was no data. People like me were gonna wait it out until we saw some numbers and I didn't become extreme in my beliefs until I was forced to. Luckily everyone at my job that mattered said fuck it and were threatening to walk out.

I also decided that I would never take one of the vaccines when the control group was allowed to vaccinate

That's how I made my choice
This is all pretty sad. Adams got famous because he struck a chord with everyone who felt powerless in the face of corporate culture. Now he’s trying to use the power he has to frighten another cartoonist for hurting his feelings with a frankly not very good parody. Adams of the 90s would have laughed at Adams of the 2020s.
I genuinely think he never recovered when Mike Judge made Office Space and prevented the Dilbert movie from being made
 
Ah he got hurt from the shots @Angry New Ager? I do recall him having a video saying he was in pain, was unsure if it was just the breakup and that he would not be able to put up with it long term. Perhaps he is slowly dying and that is why he was hinting at commiting unalive? I find it amazing that he bother's to post to Bitchute every video he posts without fail gets more dislikes to likes.
I don't remember where I heard it, or from whom, but I was under the impression that his health problems were due to getting jabbed.

However, in this tweet:
He says, "All better. Was my BP meds killing me," in response to a fan who expressed concern about his health.

So I was wrong, the real problem has been identified, and he's not going to kill himself (which he said he'd do if it wasn't resolved in one year). The milk supply from this lolcow isn't going to dry up anytime soon.

Is he telling the truth? I don't know. But since I have no other information, I'll just assume he is.

Not only does Scott have no case against parody, Ben Garrison is literally right about everything he is mocking about Scott.
  • Clott did get the shots.
  • He did it because he followed The Science.
  • He did cope saying that people that were right where he wasn't were just guessing right.
  • He did have meltdowns on stream over this.
  • Even the other references like his whore wife are on point even if they aren't relevant.
What Garrison's really right about—and the thing that's got to enrage Adams the most—is that Scott Adams, professional hypnotist and world's foremost expert in persuasion techniques, fell for the biggest, most blatant psyop in...like, ever.

Adams fucking got played, and played hard. He should have seen the ham-fisted manipulation tactics that were being used, and should have been able to see right through the messaging, but instead he got caught right up in it.

Ben Garrison is savagely on-target in the way he's depicted Adams with swirly hypno-eyes, having fallen under Fauci's spell. And that, I think, is what has enraged Adams, because he's supposed to be above that; he's supposed to be the one hypnotizing others and putting them under his spell, but in this case? He was the easy mark, and having that pointed out, much less made a joke, is intolerable.

I do want him to follow through with sueing, I want him to see his persuasion utterly flopping and getting crushed by the simple facts. It's the only way his narcissistic ass will ever learn.
He'll never learn. Ever. He'd just find some way to re-frame the loss in order to save face—basically the exact same shit he does now.
 
This is all pretty sad. Adams got famous because he struck a chord with everyone who felt powerless in the face of corporate culture. Now he’s trying to use the power he has to frighten another cartoonist for hurting his feelings with a frankly not very good parody. Adams of the 90s would have laughed at Adams of the 2020s.
Nah, he’s always been pretty litigious and sensitive. Back in the 1990s, a website called The Dilbert Hole got attacked by Scott Adams and his legal team for some parody comics: https://m.slashdot.org/story/5284

Here’s a link to the comics: http://pied.nu/banned/the_Dilbert_Hole/

Adams has always been a litigious guy and Ben Garrison’s comic caused a narc injury that got Scott to overreact. The further he drags this out, the worse he looks, so I hope he keeps making a big deal about it.
 
United Features Syndicate, not Scott, were the ones who sent the C&D to the rotten.com crew responsible for the comics. The issue with The Dilbert Hole (much like Dysfunctional Family Circus from the same era) was that they were using Scott's own published drawings with only the lettering changed. I think it's funny and should have been ignored, but there was a fair argument to be made by the publisher about unauthorized use of the original art to produce an alternative comic strip.

Drawing your own parody of a corporate character into a new cartoon for the purpose of commentary, otoh, is hella protected by established precedent.
 
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The choices then either become:
A) Scott is unintentionally drawing hyper-awareness to this cartoon and by extension his actions by so publicly and extensively addressing it
B) Scott (foolishly) thinks he actually has a case, and will embarrass himself by going through with it, in the process drawing far more attention to his words and actions
Choice C (to be revealed by Scott in eight months): it was intentional to draw attention to a funny cartoon that does it right. Only a master comic artist like Scott has that kind of clout to hand out.

Also the most damming part of the comic by far is that Garrison called Scott Adams by his nickname "Clott". Scott's chat has been smacking him with Clott for years now and he hates it.
 
I remember reading Dilbert as a kid and thinking that the guy who wrote it must be really smart

I don't follow Scott, but if he thinks an original work of parody that not a lot of people had even seen (until the Streisand effect kicked in) is defamation, then it turns out Scott is retarded
I reckon he probably believes that he, Scott Adams, writer, philosopher, the Dilbert guy, is smart and powerful enough that he can get Garrison to back down regardless of actual legal position. He vastly overestimates his clout.
 
United Features Syndicate, not Scott, were the ones who sent the C&D to the rotten.com crew responsible for the comics. The issue with The Dilbert Hole (much like Dysfunctional Family Circus from the same era) was that they were using Scott's own published drawings with only the lettering changed. I think it's funny and should have been ignored, but there was a fair argument to be made by the publisher about unauthorized use of the original art to produce an alternative comic strip.

Drawing your own parody of a corporate character into a new cartoon for the purpose of commentary, otoh, is hella protected by established precedent.
Anyone who is interested can dig into it - parody and the first amendment and copyright interact in extremely interesting ways that aren't obvious but actually make sense once you dig deeply into it. Things to consider:

1. How can the 1st be protected?
2. How can artists be protected? People would absolutely lie that a "performance" of a copyrighted work was a "free parody" if they thought they could get away with it.
3. How do trademarks and copyright play into it?

One of the reasons Weird Al goes out of his way to get permission AND pays royalties for the actual notes/tune, is that he wants to prevent any possible legal entanglement; it is HIGHLY likely that the parodies that actually make fun of an artist are 1000% protected, but the ones USING the music to make fun of something else could be arguably actionable (the argument would likely fail).

Some cases for research:
  1. Mattel, Inc. v. MCA Records, IncBarbie Girl is a protected parody
  2. Dr. Seuss Enters., L.P. v. Penguin Books USA, Inc.The Cat NOT in the Hat! A Parody by Dr. Juice, a satire of the OJ Simpson case in the style of Seuss - NOT protected because unauthorized and NOT a parody of the Seuss book itself.
 
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Is it even possible to have a negative impact on Adams’ reputation? Pretty sure people already think he’s a prick.
Imagine being such a pussy that you think people saying mean things is the same as being raped. No wonder his wife left his old ass and is no doubt getting it from some hot young stud even as we speak.
 
Nothing is false, already a bad case.
He's a public figure, he's has to prove intent
Someone saying you're a dumbass is not a defamatory statement as it's an opinion. Garrison essentially called him a dumbass that's easily duped and refuses to admit he's wrong, which again, is an opinion
 
Scott went on to elaborate his ideas further in today's episode. Starting at 42:00 he begins by saying the comic drawn by Zyklon Ben presents the message that Scott insists others take the vaccine, when his actual beliefs are the opposite of that. He goes on to explain in his highly scientific twitter poll about 46% of people said they stopped supporting (buying his shit) because of their misunderstanding of his belief. Since Ben's comic spreads this alleged misunderstanding further he believes it is hurting his bottom line.

He admits that it's almost impossible to win a defamation case, but lists off the 5 qualifications for something to be defamation and why Ben's comic meets the criteria. My commentary will be in ().
1. It has to be published - It most certainly is.
2. Person being defamed had to be mentioned by the statement - Says he is named and shown in the comic (Actually Scott isn't named, the person in the comic is Clott Adams, but it's safe to say it would meet this criteria regardless)
3. Remarks had a negative impact on the person's reputation - Allegedly very easy to demonstrate as he'll just run a twitter poll to prove it. (No idea how well twitter polls hold up in court)
4. Published information is demonstrably false - Easy to prove since everything he's said is in the public, and if Ben tries to use any tweets to back his point they can easily be debunked because those are "out of context" (My proof is good because it's mine. His is bad because it's not mine)
5. Defendant is at fault and demonstrate malice - He sent him a message on Instagram asking him to make a statement saying "this comic does not accurately portray Scott's views," and if he doesn't that will be enough to prove malice. (Say sike right fucking now or I will see you in court. This strikes me more as legal intimidation than anything else)

His mental gymnastics were not the best part of the stream though. The best part was him admitting he is absolutely willing to go to court and lose, pay a quarter of a million dollars in settlement money, if it means he can prove in the court of law that he was misrepresented. Taking a page from Sargon in doing whatever it takes to trigger the libs, own the libs. I wish I was kidding here is an exact quote at 51:05.
"Here's the real play, the play is this I want to create way more attention to the lawsuit then the original comic got. And if losing the court case also surfaces the fact that it was not accurate statement about me, that'd be fine....I don't care what happens after that. If that costs me a quarter of million dollars, money well spent."

Now he's basically retarded. He claims the comic promotes the idea that Scott insisted that people take the vaccine. I can't imagine reading that comic and coming to that conclusion. To me and everyone else in this thread, the comic has Ben calling Scott exactly what he is. A fucking idiot.
 
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