SCP Foundation - Creepypasta with roid rage - now ITT: SCP fans

[ToS]

SCP-80085-J: THE TITLE IS IN ALL CAPS SO YOU CAN TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY I SWEAR

SCP-6283: LOOK AT ME SO TRANSGRESSIVE AND I DONT EVEN CARE LOOLOLOL WACKY STUFF INSIDEZ IT’S GOOD THO

 

[Shitassdeaddude]

While Kaktus acts tough when called out indirectly, such as making Twitter posts when he's called out out here, I can tell you from personal experience that he's a complete pussy when approached directly. He's prone to leaving chats when confronted or challenged in the slightest, his ego is extremely fragile when he's in the spotlight.

In his articles he tends to respond to any criticism with dismissive one-word posts like "Okay."

 

[Valstrax]

SCP-6283: LOOK AT ME SO TRANSGRESSIVE AND I DONT EVEN CARE LOOLOLOL WACKY STUFF INSIDEZ IT’S GOOD THO

SCP-041-J: Lyris and The Other One Nobody Gives A Shit About 2: Electric Boogaloo

 

[Furret]

In his articles he tends to respond to any criticism with dismissive one-word posts like "Okay."

He used to do that, but someone high up on staff (I think Magnus?) actually told him to stop being an ass for once, so he stopped. There was a period afterwards where he tried responding with obviously fake friendliness, but these days I think he's just stopped responding to random people not liking his articles altogether.

 

[Cow-Chan]

but these days I think he's just stopped responding to random people not liking his articles altogether.

So the forum equivalent of leaving the chat, then. Typical.

 

[Furret]

So the forum equivalent of leaving the chat, then. Typical.

It's for the best, honestly. Responding to every random anon who says mean things about your writing isn't healthy. Of course, I have no doubt that he still wants to respond to every negative remark he gets, but it's not worth the effort and he seems to have realized that.

 

[ToS]

In his articles he tends to respond to any criticism with dismissive one-word posts like "Okay."

"Hm. I can't imagine ever saying something like that about anyone else's work that they put time into, so. Cool."

runs to disciplinary staff

 

[Furret]

"Hm. I can't imagine ever saying something like that about anyone else's work that they put time into, so. Cool."

I guess he needs to imagine a little harder.

 

[shnoopsis]

I wouldn't go so far as to say that the very concept of the Foundation has been 'run dry' - if anything, the newer articles are some of the most creative in terms of CSS-craft and actual content, but at the same time the most detached from the original series and 'format'. From what I'm hearing, some people say that newer SCPs are no longer SCPs but instead stories, and even if that was somehow the case for all new SCPs, that's not necessarily a bad thing.

My best advice is to read them for yourself. People not looking for themselves is what built the very strange culture on the SCP wiki, and really, the same thing can happen in any community.

When I went to several authors about 'Doctor Doctor Doctor', I didn't ask them to downvote it (pardon a few), I asked them to read it.

Big difference.

Edit: Also I don't think that the other, smaller authors need all this flak for the way they write in this newer era of SCP. Bigger authors started to diverge from the format, and they followed suit. And that's not a bad thing, and if anything I'm glad it happened. People would be complaining still even if they stuck to the example of series 1.

I've been- well, I was a member of the community for five years. People have always been complaining- hey, people complained about the 'risk' and 'disruption' levels. Still are. Good SCPs came out nonetheless. Don't want to diverge from the thread but message me if you want recommendations, I've got a folder.

 

[Punished “Venom” pH]

When staff do something fucked up, complain. Get loud. If you make a big enough fuss, people will take notice, and some will side with you. If it gets big enough, staff will listen to you. As @bettermybutter has demonstrated, staff completely fold when you apply pressure to them. They're used to having control of the narrative outside of fringe discussions like this thread and a few Tumblr communities, and they panic when it looks like that control is slipping. Take advantage of that.

& if they don’t fold they’ll at least show their true colors

 

[ToS]

I’m glad that DDD got deleted - it shows that they’re at least sensitive to optics when someone embarrassed them or threatens the appearance of the wiki being a safe place

Anyone who’s read this thread will know that the “safe space” at SCP is one for egos and questionable characters to be emboldened to express the unsavory parts of themselves with no anticipation or delivery of a reckoning. That’s how you grow a Bright.

Spoiler: The Mechanics

I think what happens is that an author gets validation by the reception of their writing and equivocates that validation to the whole of their persona. They take it as an “OK” to come out of their shell, and bring their unrelated beliefs & baggage with them. Kind of like how some professionals take their expertise in a very specialized area — say a doctor — and think that because their opinion is valued in that field, that also applies to other, unrelated contexts where they are not exemplary, like politics or ethics. Or, in the case of SCP, both.

So with the massive influx of popularity brought in initially by the Containment Breach game, you suddenly have the closest thing you are going to get to an internet D-list literary celeb (even then, only in-community, the satellite audience which makes up the largest part of the popularity don’t pay any attention to who actually wrote an article). What would be a backstop to the overgrowth of this misuse of celebrity (group morality) is dulled by the examples set, and also by germinating delusions of grandeur that other authors hope to have pacified too. This is why you have asymmetrical punishment for different classes of users. It takes extraordinary circumstances and PR pressure to apply the same discipline that’s very casually and routinely applied to a lesser user.

People like Bright, countless others, and now their spiritual front-runner Kaktus, let the attention go to their heads, and it makes for a very bad culture of obsession with reception/upvotes, rabid & child-like defensiveness to criticisms, censorship and example-making of dissent, and generally an empire-like mentality with regards to one’s reputation.

The praise and attention, not a bad thing in and of itself, becomes a sort of rat poison for those who don’t have the discipline, awareness, or wisdom to self-limit their intake of if to small doses. You get people like Kaktus who has probably 100 keywords programmed into his IRC chat settings that will ping him if he is even remotely (or even possibly) mentioned - not to engage with others but more to surveil the pulse of his brand; and act accordingly if needed.

But that is changing. As much as I dislike SCP, I’d rather see them rehabilitated than brought down.

 

[Furret]

Anyone who’s read this thread will know that the “safe space” at SCP is one for egos and questionable characters to be emboldened to express the unsavory parts of themselves with no anticipation or delivery of a reckoning. That’s how you grow a Bright.

Spoiler: The Mechanics

I think what happens is that an author gets validation by the reception of their writing and equivocates that validation to the whole of their persona. They take it as an “OK” to come out of their shell, and bring their unrelated beliefs & baggage with them. Kind of like how some professionals take their expertise in a very specialized area — say a doctor — and think that because their opinion is valued in that field, that also applies to other, unrelated contexts where they are not exemplary, like politics or ethics. Or, in the case of SCP, both.

So with the massive influx of popularity brought in initially by the Containment Breach game, you suddenly have the closest thing you are going to get to an internet D-list literary celeb (even then, only in-community, the satellite audience which makes up the largest part of the popularity don’t pay any attention to who actually wrote an article). What would be a backstop to the overgrowth of this misuse of celebrity (group morality) is dulled by the examples set, and also by germinating delusions of grandeur that other authors hope to have pacified too. This is why you have asymmetrical punishment for different classes of users. It takes extraordinary circumstances and PR pressure to apply the same discipline that’s very casually and routinely applied to a lesser user.

People like Bright, countless others, and now their spiritual front-runner Kaktus, let the attention go to their heads, and it makes for a very bad culture of obsession with reception/upvotes, rabid & child-like defensiveness to criticisms, censorship and example-making of dissent, and generally an empire-like mentality with regards to one’s reputation.

The praise and attention, not a bad thing in and of itself, becomes a sort of rat poison for those who don’t have the discipline, awareness, or wisdom to self-limit their intake of if to small doses. You get people like Kaktus who has probably 100 keywords programmed into his IRC chat settings that will ping him if he is even remotely (or even possibly) mentioned - not to engage with others but more to surveil the pulse of his brand; and act accordingly if needed.

But that is changing. As much as I dislike SCP, I’d rather see them rehabilitated than brought down.

I've talked about this before, but to me the core of the problem is that the systems they have in place encourage authors to focus on writing things that sell so they can be "successful". To most people on the wiki, "success" is writing something that either escapes deletion or reaches a certain upvote milestone, and you get that kind of success by writing popular articles, not good articles. When you have this kind of setup, the most popular authors are inevitably the authors who are the most willing to sell their souls to the numbers game, and as it turns out there's a lot of overlap between that crowd and massive egotists.

 

[BurnerPhone]

I've talked about this before, but to me the core of the problem is that the systems they have in place encourage authors to focus on writing things that sell so they can be "successful". To most people on the wiki, "success" is writing something that either escapes deletion or reaches a certain upvote milestone, and you get that kind of success by writing popular articles, not good articles. When you have this kind of setup, the most popular authors are inevitably the authors who are the most willing to sell their souls to the numbers game, and as it turns out there's a lot of overlap between that crowd and massive egotists.

What's so ridiculous about this is that authors aren't even making money off their work. All this drama is over something that has no physical link to the real world, it's just people going rabid over fake internet points

 

[Second Missing Primarch]

What's so ridiculous about this is that authors aren't even making money off their work. All this drama is over something that has no physical link to the real world, it's just people going rabid over fake internet points

The smaller the stakes are, the nastier the fights get. Of all the epic shit-flinging drama I've seen, like 80% of it started over some really petty crap.

 

[AnOminous]

What's so ridiculous about this is that authors aren't even making money off their work. All this drama is over something that has no physical link to the real world, it's just people going rabid over fake internet points

It reminds me of a phenomenon you often see in academic communities and universities where the more utterly tiny the amount of power in question is, the more petty and spiteful the fights over it become.

The smaller the stakes are, the nastier the fights get. Of all the epic shit-flinging drama I've seen, like 80% of it started over some really petty crap.

You more or less ninjaed me here but there's a strange universality to this kind of power fighting.

 

[Furret]

What's so ridiculous about this is that authors aren't even making money off their work. All this drama is over something that has no physical link to the real world, it's just people going rabid over fake internet points

The points are fake, but the effect they have on people who care too much about them is very real. You also see this with things like karma-obsessed people on Reddit and sticker spergs here on the Farms. When meaningless Internet points are tallied and can be used to compare oneself to others, there are inevitably people who value them way too much and will do anything to get them.

 

[Cow-Chan]

Something I didn't consider until now is that SCP staff are likely being strained to maintain their composure. They have so much unnecessary work they pile on themselves, and now they have, as I've only just now noticed, an ever-growing contingent of ex- and even current SCP authors and community members finding out about their shady behavior. It may be a bit overly optimistic, but I think the snowball of blowing their public façade has started to roll as more and more SCP members find this thread and realize just how many of their number have pulled the wool off their eyes, so to speak.

 

[shnoopsis]

The points are fake, but the effect they have on people who care too much about them is very real. You also see this with things like karma-obsessed people on Reddit and sticker spergs here on the Farms. When meaningless Internet points are tallied and can be used to compare oneself to others, there are inevitably people who value them way too much and will do anything to get them.

It's time for me to come clean, the only reason I have done anything ever at all was for the "Mm, Yeah" trophy. That's a whole 10 trophy points, if I get 45 I can be within 500 yards of a playground or elementary school.

 

[Bryce Tankthrust]

The ALL CAPS TITLES FOR NO REASON got old really fast.

Forgot to reply to this. Oh man, I forgot about those. I might have seen one or two where it was okay, caps lock has its purpose in documents, but otherwise they just fail.

 

[AnOminous]

Forgot to reply to this. Oh man, I forgot about those. I might have seen one or two where it was okay, caps lock has its purpose in documents, but otherwise they just fail.

CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR DROOL.