Selecting a Despot for the Autism Thunderdome

I've been thinking a bit about this. I have some ideas on how the nuclear option might be avoided.

A) Schizo-reactionarism needs to go. There's no value added to a community that can only say every mass shooting is a glow-op and it causes too much problems.

B) Informative Posters need to be valued. If you post links, videos, photos and extra info often, in my eyes you are more valuable that just text posters. If there's a dispute, the informative poster should be valued.

C) Use lower signal-to noise ration to measure success. I should be able to click the "next highlight" a couple of times to get valuable info.. If there is useless, and not informative posts in such a quantity that highlights don't work then the mods should act.

D) Chose someone who is ruthless for a determined amount of time.. I don't think the gradual approach will work. Either they comply and becoe informative and not-schizo rambling infighters or they are out. After a while of ruthlesness the comunity will be easier to handle and the mods can just cruise.
D) is the way to go. Want a despot? Make someone a despot and back them up. To the hilt. You'll have a brief period of even more sperging and then knowing that it doesn't work the spergs will either stop sperging or leave. Stop validating manchildren who can't be adults. The problem is people who shouldn't get what they want get what they want because they're more dedicated to being autistic than anyone should have to be dedicated to tard wrangling them. Stop wrangling. Start firing squadding.
 
Here’s how I’d do it.

There are too many inflammatory articles in A&N. Part of that is because the world is falling apart, part of that is because A&N has definitely taken a right-wing stance, part of it is because some people can find a way to fight about anything.

So, starting there:
1) all topics related to abortion, Covid, and vaccines get a megathread. Maybe one for grooming/public school stuff as well. There’s only so much people can say about those anyway, before it turns into either MATI posting or a fight. Discussion is fine, but anyone caught starting slapfights gets removed from the thread for a week.

2) Have an invisible ‘derailing’ sticker viewable by mods only, that can only be used on a 1 week cooldown or something.
This avoids the people upset about ratings, and also limits the ability to use it as a ‘punishment’. People won’t be able to just spam them on people they dislike. But if a specific post gets enough ratings, make it invisible, or auto-move to the pastadome.

3) No posting in the Autistic Thunderdome until a person has been registered for at least 90 days. This forces them to lurk more and pick up site culture, as well as preventing someone from joining as a kneejerk reaction to some article they get angry about.

4) members can only post 1 article a day to start. As they’ve either been here longer or prove their ability to find good articles (how that’s determined, I‘d say maybe by a jury of regular article posters?) they can increase their ability to post. Cat Party, for example, is a good poster, and deserves to be allowed to post more than 1 article a day.

I’m sure there’s more, but that’s all I have time for right now.
 
D) is the way to go. Want a despot? Make someone a despot and back them up. To the hilt. You'll have a brief period of even more sperging and then knowing that it doesn't work the spergs will either stop sperging or leave. Stop validating manchildren who can't be adults. The problem is people who shouldn't get what they want get what they want because they're more dedicated to being autistic than anyone should have to be dedicated to tard wrangling them. Stop wrangling. Start firing squadding.
Either that finally brings long sought order, or makes the place so horrid I wouldn't even bother touching it, so that's a win either way in my eyes.
 
This is all pretty closely related to why FDS recently left Reddit and I recommend their two podcasts on the subject, I'll link them on spotify.

It would be truly glorious for Null and the FDS podcast hosts to do a crossover episode, you have a lot in common. The biggest difference is that FDS is at least theoretically more protected by the law, although they skate the line with trans stuff outside the US.



strange times make strange bedfellows
 
I think giving all the regulars, whose majority of posting is in AT a red triangle by their nick and maybe/maybe not making it so that this red triangle prohibits them from interacting with the rest of the site would be some sort of an idea to keep the spergery isolated in case they want to shit up the rest of the forum.
 
I think we all cared about politics more than we do now. I've completely stopped paying attention to anything happening unless it's big enough to come here. I think it's an age thing, mostly. Once you realize how you'll never change anything, around 30 or so, you just can't be assed.

That said, a lot of people coming here now are young. We're talking 15-22, I'd wager. They've grown up embroiled in nothing but shitposting, even under their real name while claiming to be totally ironic the entire time. Men acting like fags with their grandma following their Facebook is just commonplace now.

I don't think banning will help, but nothing is more demoralizing to these people than having their shitposts removed. They will sperg about it, but they just need to be taught not to sperg about it. Getting to an ideal place will require seeming like a dick from the mod team, especially with tons of growth. The site will very quickly become even more unrecognizable to you with people like Mutahar getting involved in Ethan Ralph drama for instance, and the only way I see you having hope of maintaining a standard on any one section, on-topic or autistic thunderdome, is to enforce posting rules.

Just remove their "hard work" and shitposts and move on. The free speech question here is basically impossible. It continues to grow, it will become a cesspool. Simple as.
 
You need some barebones-but-rigid guidelines for the areas, less to encourage "discussion" and more to make the task of moderation possible. I believe it already has some, but they could be dialed up - threaten their reddit karma. Being spared the wrath of mean stickers has made them complacent. And they care a lot about extrinsic validation.

If your concern is integration, they're never going to integrate - they're internet gypsies. They have, are, and will forever continue to drift around wherever they can, being annoying and faggoty and often barely one level of opsec above a boomer screaming about politics on facebook (if that). Communities kick them out because they grow like a cyst, and they whinge about being oppressed before squatting on somewhere else. That said, it's funny to see how disconnected from reality half of them are and the schizobabble's a real treat!

Fundamentally, most of the newly-arrived 'regulars' there are just after a safe hugbox where they can plot to Save the West from. Most of the kerfuffles from that section seem to arise because they're not protected from people coming in, calling them retarded faggots, and telling them to get a job. I had fun in there back in 2020 because people were sperging in new and exciting ways, but it's just a tedious little facebook communities group where you can say nigger these days.
 
I think giving all the regulars, whose majority of posting is in AT a red triangle by their nick and maybe/maybe not making it so that this red triangle prohibits them from interacting with the rest of the site would be some sort of an idea to keep the spergery isolated in case they want to shit up the rest of the forum.
So instead of the autist thunderdome it would be the autist ghetto?
 
Here’s my plan.

(1) Set up obnoxiously Reddit-tier civility rules. To the tune of: No calling each other names. Strict no ad hominem ban. No racial slurs. Not even slightly negative words to describe ethnic groups and religions. You have to be very nice. Squeaky clean.
(2) Enforce rules above with a temp ban, 1-7 days escalating according to moderator deliberation and perceived user compliance until permanent bans are issued.

I have observed decent mileage with a policy like this to dampen down spicy topics on forums. However, I am myself unbelievably lazy as a mod so I would make a very lazy regional director also.
 
Most forums can threadban people, can moderators not do that here? It's a lot less disruptive to the site as a whole to throw a ton of threadbans around than actual bans.

If two people are sperging out at each other just remove their ability to post in the thread anymore, you don't even have to explain it to them or make a post about it because it's hardly a big deal, they can go anywhere else and still talk about whatever. If someone doesn't get the idea they'll soon find themselves unable to post in any of the currently active threads there.
 
You need some barebones-but-rigid guidelines for the areas, less to encourage "discussion" and more to make the task of moderation possible. I believe it already has some, but they could be dialed up - threaten their reddit karma. Being spared the wrath of mean stickers has made them complacent. And they care a lot about extrinsic validation.
Neg rate stickers only, posting in AnH only guarantees the social credit score to go down.
 
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