Selecting a Despot for the Autism Thunderdome

s-sorry, b-but i-i'm one too so uhm uhhhh it's o-ok for me to say
This seems to imply the people in the PM chains were doing the negrating which would mean the people complaining about being negrated were HHH and others presumably in the anti-Trump camp or something. Lines up with what I was insinuating previously that it's a few autists who stir shit up while simultaneously caring way too much (see: at all) about stickers.
Well, so here's the thing. They were negrating, but they were hoping that negrates in addition to using reports would literally drive people away from their precious corner of the internet. They were planning low-tier gayops to try to get users threadbanned or banned, and were genuinely scared of posting in several prominent election mania threads because someone might call them a retard or give them tophats, which got in the way of their "enlightened" discussion.

I'm sure that there are a handful of lefty-types that are report-happy, and they should be thrown into the gulags for abusing the function same as their mirror-images. But you have to realize, to even post in A&H as a lefty-type, you need to already have some thick skin. And the phenomenon of HHH posting in a thread and like 30 people filling their diapies over him is absolutely a sign of that thin-skinned nonsense. You'll often see more sensible people on the right telling the crowing retards to just ignore or overlook HHH's posts, and those aren't the people clogging up the report queue. The problem, regardless of political leaning or "balance" on the site, are the thin-skinned bitchmade grogs who quickdraw on the report function.
I'm joking, don't actually do this
I have reported you for making a joke, this is not a website about humor or enjoying things, this is a webzone about how we prevent the fall of rome version 2 and also the place that i will find a perfect trad gf who will recognize how cool I am when I defend her honor on the internet and give her upcummies
maybe the people who claim to not see an issue are part of the fucking problem.
blind people are ALWAYS the problem
It fosters a combative nature and open hostility and makes the site less fun.
As someone pointed out earlier, that's literally the whole of the spiderman faggot thread. I think that having disparate cliques, different circles, and unspoken agreements is generally fine and necessary when you have a site population as large and diverse as the one here. So long as shit-stirring is kept to designated containment threads, that's realistically the better way to go forward.
I didn't sign up to post on a neo-nazi site.
The thing that gets me is that it isn't even as if that's exclusively the sorts of people that read or post or so-on in those areas, but they're so tedious to interact with that it naturally feels like a split. If you dare to pierce the chorus of people chirping in with the same outdated 2016 pepe-level jokes, and god help you if you do it with links to actual sources, you get the hive's ire. Which is mostly just funny, given that like 4 different people have sworn they were gonna dox me because I dared to call their doomsperging hysterical.

But for people who want to actually follow or discuss a given topic, it can be annoying that anyone who dares to break the aura of facebook-tier boomer "jokes" to add in actual context or information gets drowned out in an ocean of bitching and (often enough) reports. So it is that you get the distinct impression it's all race-realists and alcoholics whose daughters don't talk to them anymore, if not edgy teenagers, because it's often such a joyless slog for anyone outside that stereotype to actually contribute.

That said, every now and then, you can find someone civil enough - even of the extreme poles - who provides an interesting enough change on perspective and offers up information or reasoning that's food for thought. So it's less that extreme opinions are the problem per se, and more that the blob of lazy posters that add nothing and seek to eternally bask in precious updoots and heccin validation from other Saviors of the West have gravitated towards the extreme opinions because it's easiest to farm karma and excuse one's own failings with the comforting balm of grand conspiracies.
 
AT is a constant fight between extremists devoid of any critical thinking. Perish the thought any vatnik or holhol poster ever tried looking at things from another point of view or just say ‘I don’t have enough information to make a conclusion’. Nope everyone has all the answers and you are a shill glowie tranny faggot if you feel differently. And even if you are a complete idiot on an issue you can just keep posting your dumb takes and bait people like in the Ukraine thread. I kinda wanna ban all smugposting.

That said there reasons why AT is fun to read even after I’ve been banned from it and just killing that fun is very reddit. I guess I would just have most ATers tone down their lolcow level ego five notches, also link and promote books like The Sense of Style and The Art of Thinking Clearly. Which many would take for an obvious attempt to brainwash them with rationality and faggotry so yeah definitely funny.
 
You have no reading comprehension.

I have no problem debating people with whom I disagree. The issue is that political debate is no longer tolerated in the political debate forum. I don't think HHH is a very good poster, but at this point you have to be a stubborn shit-stirring asshole to jam your flagpole into A&N the way he has. The fact he's the only consistent left-leaning poster in the entire subforum should make you wonder why that is.

Maybe you weren't there when the leftoids took over SA. I was. This was exactly how it started. The "debate politics" subforum became a leftist talking shop. Anyone right-leaning who posted in it was regarded, and then treated, as a troll. Then it spilled over to the entire site. There was a poster who would search the site for the word "tranny" and beam themselves into the thread to shit it up, including discussions of automobile transmissions. By the time Gamergate kicked off, there were only two conservative posters left, PCOS Bill and FAROOQ, both of whom posted the way HHH does, because once a forum becomes a monolithic political circlejerk you can't argue or debate with it because you are so outnumbered, so instead you troll and fight and piss people off instead because it's all you can do. SA also fell because the leftists infiltrated the moderation staff - if you note Null's OP for this thread, that is something he is concerned about - he deliberately wants to recruit mods from outside the circlejerk. SA went from "comedy forum" to a rage-fuelled political circus where several posters were arrested for threatening to assassinate the president - not Trump, mind, but Obama, because he "wasn't a real leftist". I left SA because of that bullshit and it's started happening here just with a different ideology.

If your reaction to the above is "good, I want KF to be like that" then you are the problem.

People want to shitpost in peace without some drooling basement-dweller screaming about the Jews every other post.
To be fair to HHH he went quite a while staying out of A&H, I remember goading him to return to it a while back because of politisperging in an off topic thread. The man just wants to be an entertainer and give the people what they ask for, and what we asked for was more opportunities to slapfight HHH in a thunderdome where we wouldn't get thread banned for politisperging.
Transwomen are women, deal with it chud.
I note you didn't challenge the assertion that trannies are pedos
 
People saying 'debate is not allowed' in A&H are literally just seething and lying lol. You can debate anyone in there no problem. No mods will ban you and you're free to post what you want. People just disagree with you. If you disagree with them then argue with them, if you're incapable of doing so without slamming the report function then you're a tard. @Android raptor manages it just fine and she's 1) Gay, 2) Female and 3) A lefty. Making her triple retarded.
 
People saying 'debate is not allowed' in A&H are literally just seething and lying lol. You can debate anyone in there no problem. No mods will ban you and you're free to post what you want. People just disagree with you. If you disagree with them then argue with them, if you're incapable of doing so without slamming the report function then you're a tard. @Android raptor manages it just fine and she's 1) Gay, 2) Female and 3) A lefty. Making her triple retarded.
Debate is always allowed in A&N the problem is just that debate in A&N looks like retarded chimps throwing feces at each other and everyone finds it really embarrassing.
 
I guess I had a misperception because I thought the issue wasn't that we flung shit at each other in A&H so much as that a lot of our brethren are escaping the containment zone and null needs tardwranglers who can both keep them from shitting up the other boards and deal with the increasing fedposting
 
Debate is always allowed in A&N the problem is just that debate in A&N looks like retarded chimps throwing feces at each other and everyone finds it really embarrassing.
'Politics debate' and 'retarded chimps throwing turds' is tautology.

In all srs bsns though. I said up thread, literally treat people behaving like retards as if you work in a managers job. Give them action plans and punish them for failing them. If you want a certain standard of content then you gotta slap people around and curate speech. Otherwise accept shit flinging and ride the (retarded)tiger.
 
People saying 'debate is not allowed' in A&H are literally just seething and lying lol. You can debate anyone in there no problem. No mods will ban you and you're free to post what you want. People just disagree with you. If you disagree with them then argue with them, if you're incapable of doing so without slamming the report function then you're a tard. @Android raptor manages it just fine and she's 1) Gay, 2) Female and 3) A lefty. Making her triple retarded.
Debate is allowed but that's pre-moment a topic becomes an entrenched hugbox. Then it's a debate place in name only.

It's how we humans roll but to prevent hugboxes, there needs to be strict moderation. You can't recapture 4chan's lightning and let the community be self-moderated, lest it devolves in NAME THE JEW and NIGGERCALLING.
 
Debate is allowed but that's pre-moment a topic becomes an entrenched hugbox. Then it's a debate place in name only.

It's how we humans roll but to prevent hugboxes, there needs to be strict moderation. You can't recapture 4chan's lightning and let the community be self-moderated, lest it devolves in NAME THE JEW and NIGGERCALLING.
No. It becomes a place that is majority X. A hugbox is where dissenting opinion gets you banbed. Walking into somewhere and going 'X is bad!' And six other people go 'X is good faggot' doesn't make it a hugbox. It makes it a place where people disagree with you. What you're talking about seems to be a weird enforcement of 'bothsidesism'. Spacebattles.com tried that and now they ban you for saying the word 'trap'.
 
I guess I had a misperception because I thought the issue wasn't that we flung shit at each other in A&H so much as that a lot of our brethren are escaping the containment zone and null needs tardwranglers who can both keep them from shitting up the other boards and deal with the increasing fedposting
Honestly shitflinging is great and in keeping with what A&N was always supposed to be, the issue is that A&H has developed a culture of retards seething and doomposting and shitting their pants over clickbait and anytime they hear a dissenting opinion they lose their entire shit and act like that guy from the 70s horror movie who points and the screen and screams I forget what it's called but it's a really iconic scene.
 
Honestly shitflinging is great and in keeping with what A&N was always supposed to be, the issue is that A&H has developed a culture of retards seething and doomposting and shitting their pants over clickbait and anytime they hear a dissenting opinion they lose their entire shit and act like that guy from the 70s horror movie who points and the screen and screams I forget what it's called but it's a really iconic scene.
Invasion of the bussy snatchers.

Doomposting is cringe, but how do you enforce optimism?
 
>debate is impossible because too many people disagree with me
>to 'fix' this we should remove, silence, or greatly inconvenience those who disagree with me
have you considered just moving your debate efforts to reddit, twitter, facebook, etc? like, there's no shortage of places on the internet where you can have your 'debates' in an environment that removes those who disagree with you.
 
how do you enforce optimism?
Continue the beatings until the morale improves.

In the last thread with her, someone insisted she's psychologically torturing people simply by disagreeing with the current circlejerk.
Oof that sounds pretty serious, has everyone remembered to block her and stay safe? Words are violence.
 
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Absolutely. The problem isn't that there are far right posters in A&N, the problem is that there isn't anybody else.
I post there infrequently, and I read the articles part, well, more than I probably should. I'm a left leaning centrist. I'm just not in favor of "progressive" gibberish and assorted idiocy. So my views often align with the maddest of right wing madposters venting in A&H on those types of topics. I'm just not one that tends to post much. If I think I would add nothing to the discussion, I usually just keep reading instead of posting. Unless I'm shitty wasted and just want to shitpost.

All in all, I'd say A&H is simultaneously tiring and entertaining. It's the only spot like it on the web, so even if it's full of lovable madposting autistic nazi larps and idiotic slapfights, I just think it's always going to have a place here, for good or ill.
 
In the last thread with her, someone insisted she's psychologically torturing people simply by disagreeing with the current circlejerk.
I hope I get another schizopost like the one ZDD wrote me that's still my profile bio, that was fantastic and is one of my treasures.
 
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