Sept 28 2024 - Chris and Flutter in Helsinki, Finland

[TheTourist]

The amount of people in here that drink a glass of cope and cannot fathom that somebody would legitimately like Chris is astounding isn't it?

The seethe is the new main attraction. I now want nothing but good things for Chris.

 

[FinnSven]

The seethe is the new main attraction. I now want nothing but good things for Chris.

To be honest, I hope he does just vanish into the woods and lakes.

Maybe if WWW3 kicks off and Putin sends his conscripts and Chinese mercenaries into Finland for Winter War two, the freezing chinks, there will be rumors of a fearsome shack where a screaming creature curses terrified Ivans.

But other than that, if this is the ending for Chris as an internet figure, so be it.

 

[King Kiwi]

To be honest, I hope he does just vanish into the woods and lakes.

The way it was meant to end, honestly.

Go peacefully into the night, Mr Squatch.

Please.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

1. He's a foreigner and thus immediately more exotic and interesting to her than local men(yes, this absolutely works even if you're a white American/Australian/Canuck in Europe, if you haven't tried it yourself you're really missing out).

People really underestimate this, and I am not talking about Chris but I have someone in my social circle who quite frankly looks like a blind butchers arsehole and is married to a 9/10 South African woman who he met while on holiday and is honestly one of the nicest people I know, he just makes her laugh an she's attracted to him and its not a new thing either 10+ years now and 2 kids.

One thing I think some people are forgetting though is Chris is American and that means American Spousal visa an passport - eventual citizenship. While Finland is a modern western country with a high standard of living and good prospects it's not America and a lot of people (rightly or wrongly) really love the idea of moving to America and as much as people don't like it marrying an American citizen is a valid pathway into America for more than a comparatively short and restricted holiday and please forgive me if I am wrong on this - it is easier for someone from the EU to get an American Spousal visa than it is for an American to get one in a EU member state (i've been told this by someone my mrs knows who's been through the process but the situations where different massively as both parties where making £160k+ a year so the income threshold was more than exceeded, an could have qualified on there own merits) but there is some quirk of American law that makes the process easier in one direction.

I mean it used to be a trope on the early internet oddball programmer meets woman way out of his league he flys out to country to meet her 6 months later they are married, then they bring her kid / kids over then mum etc once passport is attained marriage breaks up she fucks off with half his money an he's left wondering whats happened.

While I don't think that's what's going on it's not something you can easily discount as possibility as this point given how little we know of things, hell they might not even be in that kind of relationship.

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The way it was meant to end, honestly.

Go peacefully into the night, Mr Squatch.

Please.

I am kinda disappointed that it's not UFO's on Big Foots shirt, for some reason I'd imagine that if Big Foot was real he'd play into the meta.

 

[Mudkipcorn]

Americans can only stay in the Schengen Zone for 90 days in a 180 day period. Obviously this isn't enforced rigorously (as in no one will check on people overstaying as tourists but it can bite those people in the ass when they leave Schengen if they've been here too long) and Chris is dumb so he might just flout the rules. But then there are all the sitings over the Summer in the US. So clearly this is at least his second visit to Finland (though who knows, he may already be back in the US).

Shockingly, it's looking even more likely that Flutter doesn't live in the US, just that she visits Cwcville regularly. And now Chris is starting to do the same thing. 90 days every 180 days is a lot of time, so if he has the means he will be able to spend a big portion of the year in Finland.

 

[Captain Ahab]

There’s so much cope about the fact that Chris got himself a submissive waifu and they’re most likely fucking on a regular basis, and Chris most likely has had more sex than most redditors and farmers.

The pigheaded denial from some people is becoming comical.

 

[SlipNHonkMach2]

I always think there's going to be a definitive ending to The Truman Show every other year, yet here we are.

Either way, good for Chris. I get more entertainment out of the weens/alogs angry over these revelations than anything else. If the series finale actually ends with the fulfillment of his love quest and the birth of Crystal by the prophecy he had over 20 years ago, than it was worth it.

 

[Gay Baby Jailer]

The amount of people in here that drink a glass of cope and cannot fathom that somebody would legitimately like Chris is astounding isn't it?

Yea all that mother fucking just gives someone that JE NE SAIS QUOI , THAT PANACHE!
Whats that? You need someone to go to Finland for you Mrs. Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu?! Well....I cant say no to Jesus!

 

[Captain Ahab]

It’s like people forgot there is a type of women that are strongly attracted to “damaged” men. There are women out there who specifically seek out criminals, thugs, junkies, even killers and rapists. Maybe they have a Mother Theresa mentality. Maybe they think they can tame them. Maybe they like the thrill. The fact is, they exist.

Chris being an unhinged nutcase may not only not be a red flag to her, it may actually be the main reason why she wants him.

He also lives on his own and can seemingly afford a decent standard of living (blessed be the paypiggies). He’s also famous. Like legit famous. I mean, you could call it infamy, but it’s just splitting hair. For women who are into weirdos and damaged men, this is like dating a celebrity. The reality some of you refuse to acknowledge is that she may be having the time of her life and living the dream. Retarded as that dream may be.

 

[Temporary Name]

> and a lot of people (rightly or wrongly) really love the idea of moving to America and as much as people don't like it marrying an American citizen is a valid pathway into America for more than a comparatively short and restricted holiday
You're absolutely right about this, @Phalanges Mycologist. It's surprisingly hard for Euros to move to the US, and many, to this day, still want to move there. Not usually for economic reasons, it's just that America is "cool", I guess.

 

[Captain Ahab]

> and a lot of people (rightly or wrongly) really love the idea of moving to America and as much as people don't like it marrying an American citizen is a valid pathway into America for more than a comparatively short and restricted holiday
You're absolutely right about this, @Phalanges Mycologist. It's surprisingly hard for Euros to move to the US, and many, to this day, still want to move there. Not usually for economic reasons, it's just that America is "cool", I guess.

It’s pretty easy to do it illegally. As long as you’re not a total fuckup, you can travel to the U.S. visa-free, then never leave. Of course you’ll have to live like a Mexican for the rest of your life or marry a U.S. citizen, but ultimately, does it matter? There‘s no real punishment in practice unless you pussy out and deport yourself.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

You're absolutely right about this, @Phalanges Mycologist. It's surprisingly hard for Euros to move to the US, and many, to this day, still want to move there. Not usually for economic reasons, it's just that America is "cool", I guess.

Yea it is weirdly hard to move from Europe to America, me an the Mrs talked about this a few years ago as she can get a Visa on her own as its a skilled profession she works in and would likely earn more in the US but I'm not eligible for my own visa so would have to go the spousal route an that means for a few years I'd essentially not be able to work but there is a BIG social or cultural draw to America for some people and thats all that matters to them, I could see flutter being that sort of person.

 

[FinnSven]

> and a lot of people (rightly or wrongly) really love the idea of moving to America and as much as people don't like it marrying an American citizen is a valid pathway into America for more than a comparatively short and restricted holiday
You're absolutely right about this, @Phalanges Mycologist. It's surprisingly hard for Euros to move to the US, and many, to this day, still want to move there. Not usually for economic reasons, it's just that America is "cool", I guess.

It’s way easier to become wealthy from working class in the US.

It’s a bit easier in the UK, especially London, than the rest of Europe, but not as plausible as in the US.

Nordic countries are quite difficult to get a small business off the ground with high business taxes and costs, plus employing people is quite expensive.

The flip side is that being employed, one is better off and has many benefits and protections.

Another factor is that the mindset required to be a big success in a personal business, arrogant and self assured, is heavily frowned upon.

I don’t get the feeling that this is Flutters motivation however.

 

[dukekinny]

From my understanding she started writing to him while he was in prison. No idea why she initiated contact but people who pen pal with inmates are usually fucked in the head. She's probably as weird and messed up as Chris just shy instead of attention seeking. Autists seem to like extremes.

A horrorcow who I will not name placed him on multiple penpal websites.

Don't say the guy's name because he's like Beetlejuice, if you talk about him he will show up here because he has Google alerts for his names.

 

[dukekinny]

Sorry to double post but also this


Another sighting in Finland:

https://youtu.be/n4nZwu_VPuY?si=LgO1iS8fwU6JNh7G

 

[Xev]

It’s like people forgot there is a type of women that are strongly attracted to “damaged” men. There are women out there who specifically seek out criminals, thugs, junkies, even killers and rapists. Maybe they have a Mother Theresa mentality. Maybe they think they can tame them. Maybe they like the thrill. The fact is, they exist.

Chris being an unhinged nutcase may not only not be a red flag to her, it may actually be the main reason why she wants him.

He also lives on his own and can seemingly afford a decent standard of living (blessed be the paypiggies). He’s also famous. Like legit famous. I mean, you could call it infamy, but it’s just splitting hair. For women who are into weirdos and damaged men, this is like dating a celebrity. The reality some of you refuse to acknowledge is that she may be having the time of her life and living the dream. Retarded as that dream may be.

Then why does she avoid the cameras? You'd think if she was living it up dating a 'celebrity' she would want to flaunt that

 

[dukekinny]

Then why does she avoid the cameras? You'd think if she was living it up dating a 'celebrity' she would want to flaunt that

She's not dating him because he's a celebrity she's dating him and the notoriety is something she puts up with just because she likes him..

Also these videos are definitely being filmed by someone with them cuz they're all the short little clips and she's always back to the camera

 

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

One thing I think some people are forgetting though is Chris is American and that means American Spousal visa an passport - eventual citizenship.

Agreed, and this is something I've also mentioned before. Having the ability to prove an active relationship to immigration authorities in both the US and Finland would serve to grease the wheels of obtaining an immigration visa in either country. When you're constantly flying back and forth to visit each other, that helps to demonstrate (legitimately or otherwise) that the applicant isn't in a sham relationship.

It's entirely possible that Flutter is doing a reverse mail-order bride with Chris, or that Chris heard about the Finnish social welfare system and decided that would be his new tugboat for life. Frankly, the former seems a lot more likely since that's a scenario played out thousands of times per year with US authorities. Besides, Chris would likely be in for a rude awakening if he thought that a Finnish residency visa entitled him to immediate free money and titty skittles ad infinitum.

it is easier for someone from the EU to get an American Spousal visa than it is for an American to get one in a EU member state (i've been told this by someone my mrs knows who's been through the process but the situations where different massively as both parties where making £160k+ a year so the income threshold was more than exceeded, an could have qualified on there own merits) but there is some quirk of American law that makes the process easier in one direction.

Good point. I don't know that it's really down to a quirk of American law, necessarily, but rather that the US has traditionally been a destination for immigrants as well as returning citizens and servicepeople. In other words, this isn't a situation viewed as unusual by the USCIS. By no means do I want to make it sound as though the process is a breeze - it's not, and comes with plenty of bureaucratic obstacles to overcome - but rather that it's common enough to not throw the authorities for a loop.

Americans can only stay in the Schengen Zone for 90 days in a 180 day period. Obviously this isn't enforced rigorously (as in no one will check on people overstaying as tourists but it can bite those people in the ass when they leave Schengen if they've been here too long) and Chris is dumb so he might just flout the rules.

This is 100% correct. In general, overstaying the 90-day limit typically won't cause much trouble when exiting the EU, provided you're not on a round-trip ticket, a wanted criminal, have been there for years, etc. However, there's a high chance of it a) raising the chances of a turnback if attempting to re-enter the EU in the future and/or b) making US authorities unhappy with you, and that is very likely to result in an, "I GOTS TO LOOK IN YOUR AYASSHOOOLE" moment, or worse.

Source: dual national with one blue and one purple passport. Not a powerlevel, just something I've run into before when travelling between the US and EU. Re-entering the EU through the blue channel has generally been fairly straightforward: the person at the immigration check typically understands the concept of, "lives in America, is a citizen both here and there, and can walk right in," The US, though... Not so much, though it's pretty far from what I would describe as a nightmare. Being stopped and there being confusion over why I stayed in the EU for more than 90 days (despite being entitled to) has been something I've run into, and trying to explain why that's perfectly fine usually involves having to call a supervisor or shift manager over when it happens.

It’s way easier to become wealthy from working class in the US.

This is 100% true. Upward mobility in America is way more possible than in most of Europe.

It’s a bit easier in the UK, especially London, than the rest of Europe, but not as plausible as in the US.

London's a tough place to make a living in, too. Great city, but it's amusing to me how American it feels in a number of ways. You'd never mistake it for being anything other than what it is, but that vibe is there in certain parts of it.

Another factor is that the mindset required to be a big success in a personal business, arrogant and self assured, is heavily frowned upon.

From the American perspective: in most lines of work, being arrogant and self-assured generally won't help, but being passive-aggressive generally will. Obviously there are exceptions to this (some professions, such as law, practically require prickishness), but from my experience if you want to climb the ladder at work, learning how and when to lie, omit facts, and make others look bad will go further than actual ability.

I don’t get the feeling that this is Flutters motivation however.

She may not even have a plan beyond obtaining a spousal visa just to be with Chris. America may just be a change of scenery and not much else for her if she's actually in love with him.

 

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

A horrorcow who I will not name placed him on multiple penpal websites.

Shit or get off the pot. Seriously.

Don't say the guy's name because he's like Beetlejuice, if you talk about him he will show up here because he has Google alerts for his names.

There's plenty of ways to name names without hitting the tripwire. Use an acrostic, for God's sake. ROT13 it. Put it in an image. Add in superfluous characters. But for fuck's sake, quit playing this, "oh, I can't say who it is," game. It's not helping your credibility.

 

[Executive Petrel]

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