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Come to think of it, there's been times I'm in a thread and it's in progress of going to shit but isn't too far gone if there was moderation action. The thing is I have no clue what action I can take. So I think making flagging a thread for some reason could be made clearer and more productive than posting in the thread "can we move some of these posts to a new thread" or some shit and hoping a mod sees it and wants to take action.
 
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TBH the one think KF has going for it is that we can at least claim it's not a circlejerk.
Maybe giving new users more restrictions until they've reached a decent post-count and length of stay would work? I'm really not moderator material, so I'm just going on what I've seen with other forums, but it might help things along.
 
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Dirt McGirt said:
Come to think of it, there's been times I'm in a thread and it's in progress of going to shit but isn't too far gone if there was moderation action. The thing is I have no clue what action I can take. So I think making flagging a thread for some reason could be made clearer and more productive than posting in the thread "can we move some of these posts to a new thread" or some shit and hoping a mod sees it and wants to take action.
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Or you could just click the report button.
 
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Good.

Cause I like the mods here and enjoy my reports getting answered in a timely manner which they usually are. Last time something like this happened everything worked out ok except half the mods jumping ship.
keksz said:
Make shitposting on that board a bannable offense! Make Inner Circle great again!

On a serious note, Null: how hard would it be to code a "off-topic" rating thresold that fires an admin message so that someone can look into it and possibly remove the post from the thread? Does this happen already with the "a-log" rating? I seemed to receive a couple mod messages after getting too many a-logs on a post, a couple times since I've been here. If you can add something like that to the site it would further your plan, because people are much more likely to rate bad posts than to report them.

You could even add a "does not really advance the discussion" rating for that purpose ("boring" rating with a ZZZ icon, for example). I mean, as long as it'd get mods into cleaning those posts...
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Lmao being this serious about stickers. The Russ Greer thread shows that ratings are not a qualitative measurement of the post itself but how much of a circle jerk the thread is.
 
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Null said:
All staff who've not been active in moderation or in the moderation area of the board have been demoted.

I am going to assign at least one person to manage each board and if I can't find a moderator for that board I am just going to close it.

I also want people across the site to begin actively using the report button to report threads that have gone off the rails and report posts which offer nothing to discussion. The rule "Don't post if you have nothing to say. Don't post for attention. Further the conversation in some way." applies to every board on this site, except the one hidden shitposting board. Single word replies are almost never acceptable. Posts that just say "This." or so-called "empty quoting" posts are never acceptable. Fucking stop it.

I am tired of hearing people complain about various issues they have with site quality while doing nothing about it. Any fucking halfwit can complain, but we already have the machinations in place to actually deal with quality problems if people actually choose to use them.

Report buttons are on every post. Use them.
Talk to staff is available for every user. If a problem is complicated and requires explanation, use it.

Be the change you want to see, faggot.


Board Tzars
Lolcows - ???
Lolcow General - ???
CWC - @The American Hedgehog
Amberlynn - @Null
Brianna Wu - This board is hidden but I'm probably going to open it today and put @Smutley on top because he wants to pound that gash so hard
DSP - @neger psykolog
Phil - @Smutley?

Community Watch - @Cricket
Animal Control - @Golden Compass, @InLivingTuna, @yawning sneasel, @Feline Darkmage
Beauty Parlor - @CasualSeppuku, @Broken Pussy, @Melchett
L&L LLP - @Null
Salt Mine - @OwO What's This?. Again. For now.
Sisterwood - @Ride, @zedkissed60, @yawning sneasel, @Feline Darkmage, @Smutley
Tumblr - @Meowthkip

A&H - @Cricket
Deep Thunks - ???

Color coded: Green is what the board needs to be (not 'good' since 'good' is not what I'm looking for), orange is problemed, red is shit, purple is idk.

Essentially, the supervisors for a board should both be able to prune shitposting and stimulate discussion, as well as report serious systemic problems upwards. The DSP and BP supervisors do this perfectly. I only occasionally read threads from those boards but I get a general sense of how they're doing because people actually tell me.

I'm debating how I want to proceed with the others. The CWC board is probably the one in the worst shape and I don't know what there is to do with it. Stricter moderation isn't going to fix the CWC board because Chris himself has become boring, but if I ever see someone joining the forum to advertise their storefront of shit they bought from chris to resell at a higher price, I am absolutely going to lose my shit.
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This is the sort of shit Lowtax used to pull when he was on a manic phase. Have you recently acquired a mailorder bride and an ambien habit?
 
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neural said:
@Null, perhaps it would be useful if you elaborate on your vision for the problem boards (where those boards are vs where you think they need to be), so people know where to direct their energies. I am talking mostly about the lolcows board as it comprises a high amount of the people of interest we cover.

(Salt Mine problems are known by now, and IMO, %80 of CWC's pain points are due to Chris himself being largely docile).
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To add to this, can you please make it clear to moderators what types of posts are acceptable and what types are not (I know you already do this, but the Russell Greer thread seems to be immune)? There's posters who are "well-known" on kiwi, either by being a super active poster or by being on the site for a long ass time, who regularly shitpost in the Russell Greer thread. They're either "jokingly" a-logging, powerleveling about their dumbass lives, organizing or encouraging weening (not too bad since xyrichard got banned), or trying to be backseat moderators. I report it and nothing happens, so I haven't been reporting as much since it's a waste of my time. Edit: Admittedly, I've shitposted in the thread because I didn't really understand kiwi rules until I started venturing out of the thread (due to the incessant shitposting).

Thanks, Null

Edit: sorry, @Null. I didn't see your message before about not liking the KF-specific terms. My bad.
 
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Does this constitute as "Don't post if you have nothing to say" and is it reportable?

:autism:

I feel like it's overused and sometimes people nest it in multiple spoiler tags. It's usually a given when a discussion topic is autistic. It was funny the first few times I saw it. Now it's just annoying.

I'd like to know exactly what it is that we are supposed to be reporting as I don't want to make a bunch of useless reports. If people just post "LOL" and ":autism:" it's very annoying.

Vrakks said:
TBH the one think KF has going for it is that we can at least claim it's not a circlejerk.
Maybe giving new users more restrictions until they've reached a decent post-count and length of stay would work? I'm really not moderator material, so I'm just going on what I've seen with other forums, but it might help things along.
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That might be a good idea. It would keep people from making a bunch of threads as soon as they join without understanding the ropes first as well as prevent idiots from joining just to make some spergy thread about whatever stupid thing they can't wait to vomit up.
 
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If the farms were to drop the cwc threads then nothing would really be lost. Other sites like the cwiki or glaives site cover those and as many an old-fag has said Chris has been milked dry.
Whether dropping it or keeping it, it's not really worth the headache at this point.
 
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Either you have someone that care way too much and scares people away or someone that doesn't give a shit but still complains when everything is gone to shit.
Grumble, grumble...

Alpha Loves You said:
If the farms were to drop the cwc threads then nothing would really be lost. Other sites like the cwiki or glaives site cover those and as many an old-fag has said Chris has been milked dry.
Whether dropping it or keeping it, it's not really worth the headache at this point.
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I remember this forum seeing quite a bump in activity back on the planet dolan girl fiasco, sometimes is good to keep it around to contain this kind of shit.
 
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I thought the boards were fine the way they were, at least they were fun to post in.

Hopefully that doesn't change but shakedowns like this always either make forums into boring slogs or fizzle out after two weeks and everything goes back to the way it was. It'll take some lurk time to see how this goes.
 
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TheMockTurtle said:
3. In the cwc board especially, but maybe the whole board, should have a ban on threads created by brand new members. Maybe members should have to reach a certain amount of posts or days before they are allowed to start a new thread.
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Think this apply the Lolcow board, with new users creating low quality threads on persons of already questionable relevance as a lolcow. What follows are usually a swarm of low-effort posts by other members before the thread is shutdown by a mod.

Restricting the ability to posts threads altogether is one solution. My own suggestion would be that new threads are hidden until approved by a mod, at least in the dedicated lolcow boards. The mod team have a chance to look it over, give input or just trash it if necessary.
 
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For what it's worth I could help mod with the Sonichu sub-forum (also, I think we should move all the Sonichu boards, including the stuff about new pages, to that sub-forum), I know that's not much but it would take some weight off of the future mods of the CWC board's shoulders.
 
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