Should Chris receive donations?

[Himawari]

I'm not sure if there's been any in this thread yet - haven't really cared or had the time to read all the tl;dr - but some people seem to assume that those of us who have donated to the Chandlers never donate to any other sort of charity. And I don't think that's a fair assumption to make? I mean, I'm not going to list all the charity work and community service I've ever done in my life, tbh I can't list all of it, but I'm the kind of person who tries to help anyone in need, Chris or no. I'm the kind of person who gives spare change to homeless people at bus stops so they can go to the soup kitchen; I went to New Orleans after Katrina to help with reconstruction; I've been a Girl Scout since I was six, and earned basically every single possible community service badge and award.

Before you go around saying that those of us trying to help the Chandlers are better off putting that help elsewhere should consider that maybe we already are helping elsewhere.

 

[Christory101]

Id say no. His bear necessities are likely being taken care of. Anything besides bear necessities will just encourage him and Barb to spend it on dumb stuff

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Not every person in the world is Chris. When there's someone in need and they have the means to help out even a little, people will help others that are struggling, or going through a hard time, or even if they're less fortunate.

And I said this in the first fire thread, but I'm going to put it here to as it seems relevant: The point of donating is not to be thanked by the person being donated to.

I don't think any of the people who donated to the care package are expecting a genuine thank you from Chris. Or even a disgruntled thank you.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

This is how I see it. You may agree or disagree, I accept your prerogative to do either. I simply want to say my part and I'll be out.

In the past, I've been critical of the tugboat, not because I don't believe in charity, but because Chris is able to use it extensively for non-essentials. The guy lives on cheapass food and wears soiled rags so he can have vidya and porn. I'm not even against him having vidya and porn, I'm just saying it takes up an unacceptably high portion of his budget for someone living off other people's money. The way I see the tugboat, Chris takes money meant to insure he gets the bare essentials, and uses it well beyond it's intended purpose. Whether or not you agree with my view of the tugboat, there it is, and that's what makes me say what I'm about to say now:

In giving Chris a care package of necessities, especially at a time when we know for a fact they have none, we are making sure he has those bare essentials. I have never been against ANY effort, through government or private charity, to make sure someone gets the basics in life. This isn't about what they should or shouldn't get, or if the Chandlers are grateful, this is about not letting people fall below a certain level of indignity. If Chris isn't wiping his ass, I at least want to know it's NOT because he doesn't have toilet paper.

 

[Christ-Chan]

Things always work out for Chris. Don't get me wrong, his life is shit, but he's got his tugboat he maybe doesn't *medically* qualify for, he got on honor roll, the Dean's List *despite* getting suspended, he's been restrained and banned without any legal cosequences and even after the hit-and-run (which *was* an accident, but he still broke tje law) he only got coomunity service, and he even got out of doing that.

So yeah, what happened was *really*, really shitty for him, but be it donations, insurance or help from the church/comminity/family he'll pull through.

 

[bradsternum]

Shocking though it may be to some people, Chris and Barbara are not actually the worst human beings who've ever lived.

 

[MrTroll]

I don't see why this should even be a topic of discussion. If you're not donating to him then you don't have a dog in this fight. If you are then you've already made up your mind.

 

[Greg Sestero]

I don't see why this should even be a topic of discussion. If you're not donating to him then you don't have a dog in this fight. If you are then you've already made up your mind.

Meh, people are just expressing their opinions. It's as useful or useless as any other line of speculation on Chris. It's not like we're going to take a vote and force people to give or not give money to Chris. We're just talking.

Nobody's going to change each other's minds; I'm sure people that have given or intend to give money to Chris have done so for a relatively strong emotional reason - at least strong enough that walls of Internet Logic from some stranger like me isn't going to convince them. But changing someone's mind isn't necessary if you're bored and want to talk bullshit about Chris; if it were, this forum would serve no function.

 

[Some JERK]

My responsibilities lie elsewhere, and every spare cent i get goes towards those responsibilities, and always will.

What a great euphemism for what i can only assume is family or religiously motivated terrorism.

Close. Protection money.

 

[Greg Sestero]

Before you go around saying that those of us trying to help the Chandlers are better off putting that help elsewhere should consider that maybe we already are helping elsewhere.

i accept your argument. I will now consider that maybe you are already helping elsewhere.

Okay, I finished considering. Still doesn't change the fact that you're better off putting the help elsewhere. Just because you gave a candy bar to a starving kid doesn't mean you should you give a candy bar to some bloated, corpulent fuck because "the starving kid already got helped". Makes more sense to give the starving kid the second bar candy as well. Nothing's stopping you from giving more to the needy guy while simultaneously keeping free money and material possessions away from someone who's had his life absolutely ruined by free money and material possessions.

 

[DrChristianTroy]

Eh. If you want to donate, great. Who am I to stop you for doing what you want with your own money? It is your prerogative and I commend you for donating your money to another as opposed to using it on yourself.

I won't because I'm cheap, selfish and a bit of a dick.

 

[exball]

My responsibilities lie elsewhere, and every spare cent i get goes towards those responsibilities, and always will.

What a great euphemism for what i can only assume is family or religiously motivated terrorism.

Close. Protection money.

From the clown.

 

[Spork]

Yes. Not money, which he and Barb will waste, or gift cards to Target or Wal-Mart (which will be spent on vidya), but actual things they can use.

 

[theobservdr]

I believe something other than monetary donations would be best suited

 

[Enjoy your spaghetti]

Let's face it. Some people will be compelled to donate to Chris regardless of anything anybody here has to say. I am not compelled to stop them. If you feel there is a worthier cause to support, I hope you're moved to donate for that instead.

 

[Stuff and Things]

People want to donate because they can and they want to, if that doesn't affects you in any way, why should you care about it? gee.

 

[A-Stump]

People want to donate because they can and they want to, if that doesn't affects you in any way, why should you care about it? gee.

Does the topic of discussion concern Chris? Yes. Does the topic of discussion concern other forum members? Certainly, but to a smaller extent. The main focus is 'Should Chris receive donations?' This doesn't just concern the population of people who have donated here but the concept as a whole. This forum is for discussing Chris and everything has and will undergo scrutiny. So why don't you follow your own secular logic and go right back to the thread discussing the actual donation drive? This thread is for people who want to discuss the logic behind it and the pros and cons (Yes, either side can be taken and we can converse in an intelligent manner). I don't go into the thread discussing your support of it and tell you to stop,well, discussing it. I just don't think Chris deserves donations. If you'd like to discuss THAT with me, good. Otherwise it just seems you're fishing for an argument.

 

[Stuff and Things]

People want to donate because they can and they want to, if that doesn't affects you in any way, why should you care about it? gee.

Does the topic of discussion concern Chris? Yes. Does the topic of discussion concern other forum members? Certainly, but to a smaller extent. The main focus is 'Should Chris receive donations?' This doesn't just concern the population of people who have donated here but the concept as a whole. This forum is for discussing Chris and everything has and will undergo scrutiny. So why don't you follow your own secular logic and go right back to the thread discussing the actual donation drive? This thread is for people who want to discuss the logic behind it and the pros and cons (Yes, either side can be taken and we can converse in an intelligent manner). I don't go into the thread discussing your support of it and tell you to stop,well, discussing it. I just don't think Chris deserves donations. If you'd like to discuss THAT with me, good. Otherwise it just seems you're fishing for an argument.

Dude, chill out, is just that the people that don't want to donate get pissed off at people that donated.

 

[A-Stump]

Ok, hopefully people say why they think it's lame instead of just attacking forum members then.

 

[sachiko]

If people want to donate, then why not? I'm sure everyone realizes that he won't necessarily be grateful or use the care package to improve himself, but that's how charity is.