Should Chris receive donations?

[Grand Number of Pounds]

Null said he's sending the excess money in a money order for Barb, but I don't know if he's done that yet. And it's about $911 in donations.

 

[rocket]

It says right there in the donation thread op that he's not getting money for crying out loud

how many people read it before flipping out

 

[Medley]

Sending him supplies means he can instead spend his tugboat on useless crap.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Sending him supplies means he can instead spend his tugboat on useless crap.

Null is likely doing whatever he can to idiotproof the donations as much as possible. Chris is going to spend money on stupid shit no matter what anyone does but at least steps are being taken to limit the ways he can fuck things up for himself.

 

[Marvin]

Sending him supplies means he can instead spend his tugboat on useless crap.

Eh, what can you do.

 

[Giovanni]

Does Chris deserve donations? No.

Should he get them anyway? I don't know.

Will I be sending him anything? Hell no.

Are you a fool for doing it yourself? That's a question and answer that you'll have to live with, so do what you want.

 

[qld]

Why does handing money orders, gift cards or anything else for that matter to Barb mean Chris can't influence or control its use? She is will be the one running the spending errands. They're getting the donations because of not so once they get word on the insurance payout and are coming in, why wouldn't just ask to buy a few things they need with the $911 at Wal-Mart and hit Gamestop up with the change?
Man, what line of thinking admits Chris is irresponsible so the solution is to make Barb the trustee?

 

[Smokedaddy]

Sending him supplies means he can instead spend his tugboat on useless crap.

So what? It's his to spend on whatever he wants. What he does with anything he receives is solely his decision, anyone donating knew that up front. Nothing went out with stipulations about what he does with it, or what he does with other money if donations loosen the reins on that. The only real message attached is implied, not explicit: "This might help, unless you're stupid with it." That's the sum total of all the influence anyone could expect to have over what Chris does, and everyone donating knew that up front. Yes, he's an ass, and if anyone could find a way to fuck things up at a time like this, it's him. The boy has a sort of hideous ingenuity for inviting ruin, so no one should be surprised or disappointed if he manages to blow it somehow . The point is that If he fucks it up that's his problem, not that of anyone here. If he found a way to turn everything into cash to blow on hookers, inflatable gal-pals, lingerie, and video porn there'd be a bunch of snickering and some eye-rolls on this end, probably accompanied by some pretty funny forum threads. That's fine with me. If he manages to show a little responsibility and put things to good use, that's fine too.

What I find baffling is how worked up some people are getting about it. The forum's usual nonchalant laissez-faire vibe of amused detachment is lacking in this thread; people seem to be forgetting that posters are required to be either 1) well-reasoned, on topic, and well-stated, or 2) funny. (joke)

 

[qld]

Sending him supplies means he can instead spend his tugboat on useless crap.

So what? It's his to spend on whatever he wants. What he does with anything he receives is solely his decision, anyone donating knew that up front. Nothing went out with stipulations about what he does with it, or what he does with other money if donations loosen the reins on that. The only real message attached is implied, not explicit: "This might help, unless you're stupid with it." That's the sum total of all the influence anyone could expect to have over what Chris does, and everyone donating knew that up front. Yes, he's an ass, and if anyone could find a way to fuck things up at a time like this, it's him. The boy has a sort of hideous ingenuity for inviting ruin, so no one should be surprised or disappointed if he manages to blow it somehow . The point is that If he fucks it up that's his problem, not that of anyone here. If he found a way to turn everything into cash to blow on hookers, inflatable gal-pals, lingerie, and video porn there'd be a bunch of snickering and some eye-rolls on this end, probably accompanied by some pretty funny forum threads. That's fine with me. If he manages to show a little responsibility and put things to good use, that's fine too.

What I find baffling is how worked up some people are getting about it. The forum's usual nonchalant laissez-faire vibe of amused detachment is lacking in this thread; people seem to be forgetting that posters are required to be either 1) well-reasoned, on topic, and well-stated, or 2) funny. (joke)

Hell, I personally don't care if someone hands him another $1,000 toy shopping spree. The question for some of us now is "why deceive yourself by thinking you can 'earmark' your donations by placing it in gift cards or handing it to Barb?" Same thing with food stamps, gimmee my stamps so I can free up my cash for liquor and crack!

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

The people who are offended by Chris wasting charity money given to him will be vindicated the very next time something doesn't go well for Chris, and because he didn't save or think ahead he has no money to protect himself or solve his problem.

 

[MY 405]

What if I wanted to give him money just to see how badly he would fuck it up?

 

[Tubular Monkey]

What if I wanted to give him money just to see how badly he would fuck it up?

The only way that works to any satisfactory conclusion is if he uses your specific money to buy the coffee maker that burns down his hotel.

And while I think that this quixotic Hands Across Ruckersville charitable campaign is silly, it's nothing to get worked up about. It will probably end up amounting to less than what he normally receives from the government for being a fuckwit. They are in dire need of living essentials, and those eat away hundreds of dollars very quickly. Chris burning down his own house is going to result in both of them being extremely impoverished for the remainder of their lives. They always had the buffer that was 14BC. It was shelter and comfort. Now everything they had is for all intents gone. They won't be put up in that hotel forever. So if you think Chris is going to spoil himself, in the end the Chandlers will have no house and probably no insurance to think about getting a new home. Chris may win the pettiest battles, but he loses every single war.

 

[Holdek]

Sending him supplies means he can instead spend his tugboat on useless crap.

So what? It's his to spend on whatever he wants. What he does with anything he receives is solely his decision, anyone donating knew that up front. Nothing went out with stipulations about what he does with it, or what he does with other money if donations loosen the reins on that. The only real message attached is implied, not explicit: "This might help, unless you're stupid with it." That's the sum total of all the influence anyone could expect to have over what Chris does, and everyone donating knew that up front. Yes, he's an ass, and if anyone could find a way to fuck things up at a time like this, it's him. The boy has a sort of hideous ingenuity for inviting ruin, so no one should be surprised or disappointed if he manages to blow it somehow . The point is that If he fucks it up that's his problem, not that of anyone here. If he found a way to turn everything into cash to blow on hookers, inflatable gal-pals, lingerie, and video porn there'd be a bunch of snickering and some eye-rolls on this end, probably accompanied by some pretty funny forum threads. That's fine with me. If he manages to show a little responsibility and put things to good use, that's fine too.

What I find baffling is how worked up some people are getting about it. The forum's usual nonchalant laissez-faire vibe of amused detachment is lacking in this thread; people seem to be forgetting that posters are required to be either 1) well-reasoned, on topic, and well-stated, or 2) funny. (joke)

Yeah. Plus I haven't seen a bunch of people who donated writing, " :idea: I just thought of a way Chris might game the donation! GIVE ME A REFUND NULL!" So, yeah, the people that aren't going to donate are already not going to donate.

What if I wanted to give him money just to see how badly he would fuck it up?

No trolling plans.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

HEY I HEARD YOU MOTHERFUCKERS ARE GIVING CHRIS COMICALLY OVERSIZED GOLD COIN FILLED BURLAP SACKS WITH MONEY SIGNS ON THEM SO HE CAN BUY A TOY STORE. WHAT THE SHIT

 

[Coldgrip]

What I find baffling is how worked up some people are getting about it. The forum's usual nonchalant laissez-faire vibe of amused detachment is lacking in this thread; people seem to be forgetting that posters are required to be either 1) well-reasoned, on topic, and well-stated, or 2) funny. (joke)

That's actually one of the things that's been bugging me about the whole donation thing. It's that we're not leaving things alone. I understand that when shit happens some people want to help those affected get back on their feet, even if it's people like the Chandlers, so if someone posted links to a site where they could donate I'd understand. But the idea of a care package being put together by some of the CWCKI forum members just seems to me like were no longer the neutral, let's just sit back and observe forum we're suppose to be. I mean if someone had proposed that we raise a fund so 14 Branchland Court could be cleaned up before it suffer structural damage/becomes a health hazard due to mold/catches fire/in general becomes uninhabitable, they'd of been told 'not our problem'.

I know people have already made up their minds and either donated or chose not to, I just wanted to get this off my chest.

 

[MY 405]

What if I wanted to give him money just to see how badly he would fuck it up?

The only way that works to any satisfactory conclusion is if he uses your specific money to buy the coffee maker that burns down his hotel.

And while I think that this quixotic MANOS Across Ruckersville charitable campaign is silly, it's nothing to get worked up about. It will probably end up amounting to less than what he normally receives from the government for being a fuckwit. They are in dire need of living essentials, and those eat away hundreds of dollars very quickly. Chris burning down his own house is going to result in both of them being extremely impoverished for the remainder of their lives. They always had the buffer that was 14BC. It was shelter and comfort. Now everything they had is for all intents gone. They won't be put up in that hotel forever. So if you think Chris is going to spoil himself, in the end the Chandlers will have no house and probably no insurance to think about getting a new home. Chris may win the pettiest battles, but he loses every single war.

To Dream, The Impossible Dream....

 

[Tubular Monkey]

To Dream, The Impossible Dream....

The Manchild of La Mancha.

 

[Holdek]

Did Chris actually say he stopped wearing the Classic intentionally? I know we've speculated that he thinks wearing normal clothes is like a "disguise" to hide from the trolls, but I've seen nothing to confirm this.

I think Champ said that's what happened. I know in a Jackie e-mail he said he had done a "complete 180" into tom girl and wrote:

Also, here is another way to consider me, I am a Ken doll any Barbie CAN dress in her clothes, and I would feel most comfortable in them and to model them for her. Come shopping with me, sweetie.

So I think he ditched most of the clown shirts (or, rather, Barb probably made him feed them to the hoard).

There's lots of spergs on ED that have been homeless like that blonde dollfucker (I forget what his name is) and that furry who drew the anime character with the bandana, etc. Just like Chris their situation was entirely avoidable, but unlike Chris they also don't have insurance and neighbours (who DID let them stay for a bit) and insurance-paid hotel stays, and a church. Does every sperg/autist/freakshow on ED or 4chan or wherever get a collection dish now?

It's really quite hypocritical, this is the same community who would be laughing at him about to go to jail for his own actions which had nothing to do with us. I didn't see a drive to help pay his legal fees when he could have quite possibly landed in jail which could have literally killed him or done far worse psych damage than losing his house.

If you break the law, you deserve to go to jail. That's kind of what makes it "the law".

No one deserves to have their house burned down.

Exactly nobody deserves to have their house burned down which is why you have insurance

Insurance has nothing to do with someone deserving or not deserving to have their house burn down.

It's apparent that nothing is going to change your mind on Chris getting assistance when "other people" don't get it. And that's totally fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the reasons people have donated are many and varied. It's a bit rude, and narcissistic, to not extend that outwards and believe that other people may actually do things that you don't agree with for reasons that are equally right.

You didn't answer my question though, what would be wrong with him not getting special treatment for once in his life?

Ummm there are tons of times where he doesn't get special treatment. See his bannings, loss of friends and daily battle with physical health. It isn't like he never suffers consequences for his actions. Should he have been charged more for hitting Snyder? Maybe. But he lucked out that day and continued to exist.

Yeah, it's not like he's the Teflon Man-Child. (Although maybe his should be made of Teflon, am I right?)

What I find baffling is how worked up some people are getting about it. The forum's usual nonchalant laissez-faire vibe of amused detachment is lacking in this thread; people seem to be forgetting that posters are required to be either 1) well-reasoned, on topic, and well-stated, or 2) funny. (joke)

That's actually one of the things that's been bugging me about the whole donation thing. It's that we're not leaving things alone. I understand that when shit happens some people want to help those affected get back on their feet, even if it's people like the Chandlers, so if someone posted links to a site where they could donate I'd understand. But the idea of a care package being put together by some of the CWCKI forum members just seems to me like were no longer the neutral, let's just sit back and observe forum we're suppose to be.

Well, basically we don't make trolling plans, but there's no rule against legitimately helping Chris out. Or at least against sending him something besides asspats ( )

 

[A-Stump]

This thread is dumb now and I should feel bad for making it

 

[MrTroll]

Sending him supplies means he can instead spend his tugboat on useless crap.

He was gonna do that anyway. Because he's a moron.

Does anyone really think that even the direst of circumstances would inspire him to spend his gubmint money on essentials instead of garbage? Of course not. Being the victim of a (self-inflicted) catastrophe such as a house fire does not endow an otherwise stupid person with sudden good sense. Chris could be living in a cardboard box under a freeway instead of a hotel room and he'd still piss away whatever money comes his way on frivolous things. It's just how he's wired. If Chris had to choose between buying shampoo and deodorant or a supersized McDonalds sweet tea and a Big Mac, he'd go for stinky over hungry every time.

So let's put to bed any concerns about enabling irresponsible behavior with the Sorry You Burned Down Your House, Dumbfuck charity drive. Chris spending his tugboat on useless crap is as sure a thing as the sun rising tomorrow morning.