Should We Crash China's Economy? - With No GloboHomo Survivors

[BILLY MAYS]

Should We Crash China's Economy?

Can we accomplish this by shitposting in an autism forum?

 

[Coke Pope]

Considering that the US wasn't even able to destroy Cuba's economy and Cuba thrived despite the embargo, how is the US going to destroy China's economy exactly?
If you think that the US is powerful enough to do so I think you may be an Amerimutt with delusional dreams of grandeur.

Oh, also, the Chinese government owns 10% of the American debt, so if you destroy the chink economy you will destroy you economy as well.
So good luck at that Amerimutts.

 

[millais]

I get that the Thucydides Trap is a tricky one, but surely the answer is not to voluntarily blunder straight into it.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

I get that the Thucydides Trap is a tricky one, but surely the answer is not to voluntarily blunder straight into it.

Too late, we've larped too hard as the neo-Athenian Empire, now we will reap the whirlwind of our actions.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Considering that the US wasn't even able to destroy Cuba's economy and Cuba thrived despite the embargo, how is the US going to destroy China's economy exactly?
If you think that the US is powerful enough to do so I think you may be an Amerimutt with delusional dreams of grandeur.

Oh, also, the Chinese government owns 10% of the American debt, so if you destroy the chink economy you will destroy you economy as well.
So good luck at that Amerimutts.

The US ties with Cuba were never quite this deep and involved a different kind of trade based on gambling, hookers, sugar and booze. As long as Cuba shakes their ass to that tune, they can make money forever especially since they're providing a real good, everyone wants a slice and it's just a small island.

China is leveraged to all hell though and so much of it was put together through financial fuckery. Leveraging debt, using tax benefits, huge amounts of state intervention to specifically undermine global markets and IP theft are all put together to support a massive population and state economy. They have so many more moving parts that they have to specifically calibrate so it doesn't fall apart while Cuba just doesn't.

 

[Pixy]

Even if you want to just punish the government, you end up punishing the common people, as well. If the US wants to wage economic warfare, they had better think hard about how they can convince the Chinese people that they aren't just trying to destroy them, because the government will certainly be blasting the opposite at full volume.

Do the Chinese still give any credence to the "Mandate of Heaven" philosophy?

We've already failed on that front with the Iranians - I doubt it'd work on the middle-class Chinese who would experience a drastic decline in their QOL. A foreign government's propaganda won't put bread on the table.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

I think we should set up armed insurgent groups all across China

 

[Recoil]

To my knowledge not yet, but they are getting quite far with AI technologies and cloning, anything productive that comes of that, we should steal.

That would enable us to grab the knowhow without engaging in the inhuman degeneracy required to get it firsthand.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I can't believe all this dissident talk I'm hearing. Calling for boycotts on China should be as illegal as calling for boycotts on Israel.

Though on the plus side my social credit increased 10 points for reporting you. Sorry, it won't be good for your social credit rating.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Even if you want to just punish the government, you end up punishing the common people, as well. If the US wants to wage economic warfare, they had better think hard about how they can convince the Chinese people that they aren't just trying to destroy them, because the government will certainly be blasting the opposite at full volume.

Do the Chinese still give any credence to the "Mandate of Heaven" philosophy?

It'd be a lot better than a real war would be. It'd force a change in government. Besides, this isn't about hearts and minds. This is about our people, our sovereignty. I get the common guy on the street is going to get hurt. So is basically the rest of the world. But this shit has to stop. I'm not unsympathetic to the average Chinese citizen.

But unless we can convince somebody to go hari-kari on Xi or give him the good old Soviet treatment of an icepick to the skull or two behind the ear, I don't know what else is there except to massively punish any interest that invests with them.

I get that the Thucydides Trap is a tricky one, but surely the answer is not to voluntarily blunder straight into it.

I mean, what do you think is going to happen when inevitably Xi's power starts to wane and China exercises so much unilateral control over the South China sea, the countries there are going to get into armed conflict with him? I mean, this is a guy so concerned about projecting his strength, he's willing to scrub the entire internet of a cartoon character on the off chance it might be used to lampoon him.

Obviously, I posed a question, not a statement. I don't believe we'll blunder into war. I believe the damage would be so extensive, that a war would not be cost-effective or undo what we did or that the damage would be so rapid, and so sudden, mobilization would be pointless. I do think if Xi believes his power is slipping, he'll start one.

Also with the Thucydides Trap, we've got hindsight on a lot of it. We don't know if China is rising or waning. It seems to depend on the day of the week, because I remember books 10 years ago predicting that they'd be super dominant. And its far from that. So we might fall into the trap anyway with China wanting to correct internal weakness with an external show of force.

In the coming years, they might also lose the rare earth market as Japan has found a near infinite bed of them off of their coast. So they're looking at trouble from multiple directions.

Can we accomplish this by shitposting in an autism forum?

You know what I meant.

Besides, shitposting got a US President elected.

The US ties with Cuba were never quite this deep and involved a different kind of trade based on gambling, hookers, sugar and booze. As long as Cuba shakes their ass to that tune, they can make money forever especially since they're providing a real good, everyone wants a slice and it's just a small island.

China is leveraged to all hell though and so much of it was put together through financial fuckery. Leveraging debt, using tax benefits, huge amounts of state intervention to specifically undermine global markets and IP theft are all put together to support a massive population and state economy. They have so many more moving parts that they have to specifically calibrate so it doesn't fall apart while Cuba just doesn't.

Exactly this. China's stock market nearly collapsed until China, literally, put people at gunpoint to make it not. China's economic strength is a very big '?' because we really don't know what goes on because the CCP is extremely secretive. But its a lot weaker than it looks.

They're building ghost cities with concrete so bad that the building won't last five years. China has to exercise a massive amount of control over a system built on popsicle sticks and elmer's glue. Throw a little bit of chaos and they're scrambling to pick it up.

 

[los pepes]

Considering that the US wasn't even able to destroy Cuba's economy and Cuba thrived despite the embargo, how is the US going to destroy China's economy exactly?
If you think that the US is powerful enough to do so I think you may be an Amerimutt with delusional dreams of grandeur.

Oh, also, the Chinese government owns 10% of the American debt, so if you destroy the chink economy you will destroy you economy as well.
So good luck at that Amerimutts.

Which is like 1.5 trillion dollars. We piss away that much on air conditioning for our misadventures in the shitbox.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Imperial Japan did nothing wrong.

Yeah, you can't just cut off China's access to Africa. China is extraordinarily reactionary like I said. Just look at the South China Sea. Despite having 'China' in the name, its claimed by multiple countries who are very close to it. Even that has to be with a tender touch. If we crater their shit into the ground, Africa will be the least of their worries.

EDIT:
Oh and the last time the French got involved in Africa it caused the migrant crisis by convincing us to obliterate Libiya. Lets not let the frogs in on anything where they can fuck it up.

With the Africa thing, it might be possible to force Chinese apologists in the media to pick between China, and their own political interests. Bellow is a picture of anti-suicide nets at Chinese factories. They basically treat their own people as slave labor, so I can't imagine they treat Africans at their holdings there much better. If information could be found on this, and put out everywhere, it could force the apologists to tell the truth about China.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

I say we just confiscate all their women.
It'll hurt China, and also solve our incel issue.
Two birds and all.

 

[AnOminous]

It could ultimately lead to a nuclear war or the end of the world but if it's that or end up overrun and controlled by this vile, insect-like culture, with no freedom or rights, I'd say fuck it, go for it.

 

[mr.moon1488]

I say we just confiscate all their women.
It'll hurt China, and also solve our incel issue.
Two birds and all.

Mao actually offered to send the US 10 million women at one point.

 

[BR55]

People forget the 'historical context' around how this all came about.
The West is largely responsible for China's rise, it's about time it got busy with it's fall.
China rose in the wake of all that post 1989 optimism that came with the fall of the Berlin Wall ,which Francis Fukuyama described in his infamous article 'The End of History'.

Fukuyama argued that with the imminent collapse of the Soviet Union, the last ideological alternative to liberalism had been eliminated. Fascism had been killed off in the Second World War, aparthied in S.A had been dismantled and now Communism was imploding. States like China, that called themselves Communist, were seeing political and economic reforms that were 'inevitably' heading in the direction of a liberal order.
History had reached it's goal and representative government, free markets, and consumerist culture would dominate the world!
Simply put, there was a lot of sunny optimism and utopian thinking going on in those heady days and a rather niave belief emerged that capitalism and democracy would trump ideology. Once there was a McDonald's in Red Square and Tiananmen square all would be right with the world and the attitude was that all China needed to become part of this liberal new world order ....was access to the international market.

Well those that forget their history are doomed to repeat it.
History didn't stop in the easy living 90's-2000's, instead the party did.
9/11 proved once and for that the West's sunny optimism was about to face some harsh realities and ideology might just be a tougher nut to crack then we thought.
Now people are beginning to question the value of rampant globalism and recognize it as the threat to democracy that it really is.
If the fightback is to start anywhere, it must start where it began. By kicking the corporate interests whose greed sold our manufacturing sectors to China in exchange for cheap DVD players and iPhones for all (and a healthy profit for them of course), thus making them a global economic superpower.
It's no coincidence that Trump and Brexit happened all at once. Economic nationalism is popular right now beause it's a manefestion of the unease people are feeling about how much control over our lives we have sold to globalist interests and the shady nations they do business in.

If there is any justice left in our world then NeoLiberalism will be remembered as one of the most destructive and evil ideologies to ever exist.
Although it's devastation has been wrought not by war, not the majority of it anyway but there has been plenty of conflict caused by it, but instead by credulous morons with delusions of utopia selling out their rights and freedoms for a few extra bucks.
Fukuyama and his managerial state buddies deserve to go down as the biggest group of retards in history.

 

[AnOminous]

Fukuyama and his managerial state buddies deserve to go down as the biggest group of exceptional individuals in history.

I haven't heard the name Fukuyama in a while. Somehow, his idiot idea of "The End of History" came crashing down along with the Twin Towers. Nobody really took him seriously after that shit.

FUCK that guy and his bullshit.

 

[Lemmingwise]

aparthied in S.A had been dismantled

Apartheid in south africa had been dismantled by terrorist soviet-funded organisation (ANC) that routinely set people on fire, placed bombs and used re-education propaganda camps. It was more of a dismantlement of liberalism than it was the start of it. There were far bigger anti-colonialist/racial equality movements than the ANC, but they didn't have the financial and weapon support from the Soviets, like Nelson Mandela's ANC.

Honestly, I think your perspective is flawed. All those ideology ideas are in the end another type of kabuki shadowplay.

I don't think Brexit would have happened if schengen zone and mass migration wasn't an essential part one must accept to be part of the EU. Similarly, I don't think Trump would have gotten the republican nomination if he didn't go farther right on immigration than the others in the GOP, in the time before he campaigned against the democrats. And the fact that both these interests despite having popular support have been blocked, are a clear sign of what is to come and who is pulling the puppet's strings.

On the whole, it's nice to hear people are starting to feel a little threatened by China, but I think people are overestimating the capacity to mount any meaningful resistance, as people aren't even able to enact relatively simple and popular immigration restrictions.

 

[Stoneheart]

Send them all the migrants and watch them explode.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I really have to disagree with this statement. It's not any amount of ownership that is making Blizzard shrivel, it's that China is Blizzard's main market. Video game market economy 101: China loves microtransactions and it has whales by the absolute fuckton. It is a dream marketplace for a piecemeal shitty company like Activision-Blizzy to tard cum on. The rest of the free world combined can suck dick in their bank books, they're more than happy to sacrifice the rest of the market if they can sell solely to China. Pissing off the Chinese government would mean losing rights to selling their shit to the Chinese playerbase so they will always come first.

Sorry, slightly rant-y over something minor. It's just a detail that really gets in my craw. Even if there was 0% ownership, Blizzard would still bend over.

Also Chinese lenders fund Blizzard's development